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Duke Johnson - 2015 Re-Draft

Duke is a stud. He and Landry are both going to eat with Tyrod at QB
 
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brock said:
He should have waited and tested the free agent market or demanded to be traded and not sign that deal. He could have gotten a much better deal. **** the backup rb McKinnon from the Vikings last year wasn’t as nearly ad productive as duke yet he walked away with a 37 million contract with the 49ers or something like that. Duke was better than him and i hate that he settled on his contract. Luther Campbell’s wife dukes agent did a horrible job with that period
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Can’t preach this enough, happy he’s making more but he left so much on the table. Gurley just signed a massive deal, Bell is due up next year, David Johnson has 1 year left and you mention McKinnon who duke is much better than. Should’ve rode this year out or just signed a 1 year extension, because now he’s locked in for the next 4 years and very quickly that contract won’t be competitive at all.
 
apfenny3 said:
Can’t preach this enough, happy he’s making more but he left so much on the table. Gurley just signed a massive deal, Bell is due up next year, David Johnson has 1 year left and you mention McKinnon who duke is much better than. Should’ve rode this year out or just signed a 1 year extension, because now he’s locked in for the next 4 years and very quickly that contract won’t be competitive at all.
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It won’t be at all, he settled right before the rb market was about to shift which is the sad part
 
apfenny3 said:
Can’t preach this enough, happy he’s making more but he left so much on the table. Gurley just signed a massive deal, Bell is due up next year, David Johnson has 1 year left and you mention McKinnon who duke is much better than. Should’ve rode this year out or just signed a 1 year extension, because now he’s locked in for the next 4 years and very quickly that contract won’t be competitive at all.
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Disagree. Duke is a great change of pace back with awesome receiving skills. Not an every down runner, not a big/durable build, and injury prone.

He’s a great Cane and I’m rooting for him, but I don’t see how duke would get a better deal on the open market after this season, especially with Chubb and Hyde presumably taking most of the carries.
 
brock said:
It won’t be at all, he settled right before the rb market was about to shift which is the sad part
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The RB market isn’t about to shift. Gurley got a large deal — that won’t create any massive domino effect, especially anything that would impact what Duke will make.
 
ben said:
Disagree. Duke is a great change of pace back with awesome receiving skills. Not an every down runner, not a big/durable build, and injury prone.

He’s a great Cane and I’m rooting for him, but I don’t see how duke would get a better deal on the open market after this season, especially with Chubb and Hyde presumably taking most of the carries.
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Sure Duke has been banged up minorly a few times but he’s played in all 16 in each of his 3 seasons. He’s not a 20 carry a game back but he’s certainly deserving of more than 5 carries a game he’s gotten the last 2 years.

In an offense like the Pats or elsewhere he could turn into a star.
 
ben said:
The RB market isn’t about to shift. Gurley got a large deal — that won’t create any massive domino effect, especially anything that would impact what Duke will make.
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Yes it is
McKinnon who was less productive than duke last year just got a massive deal with the 49ers to be the featured back.

Devonte freeman recently got a big time deal

Gurley just got a monster deal

Bell will get one as well.

Barkley just got a great deal

Teams are coming around to paying rbs more lately
 
jmccomber5 said:
Really interested to see how Duke is used in Cleveland now that they added Juice and Gordon is playing. It doesn't seem like they want to feature him much as a runner since they signed Hyde and drafted Chubb and there are a ton of mouths to feed in the passing game. He's been a better pro than I thought and it makes me happy to see him do so well. A true Cane
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He’s probably going to be used like Dexter McCluster was used in Tennessee...but on steroids because he’s double the playmaker.
 
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brock said:
Yes it is
McKinnon who was less productive than duke last year just got a massive deal with the 49ers to be the featured back.

Devonte freeman recently got a big time deal

Gurley just got a monster deal

Bell will get one as well.

Barkley just got a great deal

Teams are coming around to paying rbs more lately
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The 9ers signed their fullback to a four year deal for 20 mil, too. That didn’t change the fullback market, but probably forced their hand in what they paid their running back.

Bell hasn’t gotten a deal in the past two years.

Barkley is a rookie.

Gurley got a big deal. That’s all. The market isn’t changing.
 
apfenny3 said:
Sure Duke has been banged up minorly a few times but he’s played in all 16 in each of his 3 seasons. He’s not a 20 carry a game back but he’s certainly deserving of more than 5 carries a game he’s gotten the last 2 years.

In an offense like the Pats or elsewhere he could turn into a star.
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Sure he could be great on the patriots but how would that give him a better contract?
 
ben said:
Sure he could be great on the patriots but how would that give him a better contract?
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1. I generally think he should leave Cleveland just for playing time purposes.

2. A possibility could’ve been to play out this final year and if he wasn’t able to sign a longer deal that he wanted then sign a 1 year prove it deal with a team that will use him and hike his value up.
 
apfenny3 said:
1. I generally think he should leave Cleveland just for playing time purposes.

2. A possibility could’ve been to play out this final year and if he wasn’t able to sign a longer deal that he wanted then sign a 1 year prove it deal with a team that will use him and hike his value up.
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It's a really hard call....

1) I totally agree that I'd like to see him somewhere other than Cleveland.

2) That can be a real gamble. He might lose touches to Chubb/Hyde this year. Injuries can always hurt your value. He may just end up taking the same risk on a 1 year deal next year, so he'd be gambling on himself twice.

His deal is very much on par with the top 3rd down RB's - Gio Bernard, James White, Theo Riddick, Bilal Powell, Dion Lewis, etc.

RB's get churned out in the NFL - so it's a hard choice to pass up the stability & guaranteed $$ in a pretty good deal, to role the dice someone will try to use and pay you like Devonta Freeman or Jerrick McKinnon (and I think the 49ers made a mistake on the McKinnon deal).
 
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