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I prefer Applewhite. More use of play action and more willing to throw the ball over the middle. That second aspect has been fearfully absent in Canes football for a decade.

Both of them abuse the bubble screens more than my taste. You cannot defeat top teams by throwing sideways. It is laughable that the attempts are even made. Washington basically forfeited any chance in the Rose Bowl by throwing short and sideways for the first three quarters of that game. The Buckeye defense is subpar this year but it is still athletic and fast, like always. Petersen played smack into their hands with all the moronic parallel plays. Finally when Browning started throwing aggressively downfield in the fourth quarter everything was there, just like it would have been there earlier in the game.

At least Applewhite has less of a bubble screen tendency than when he was at Texas. Fedora continued to default there in recent years and especially when he had Ryan Switzer.

The Canes offense needs to hit people and throw the ball aggressively downfield. I realize everyone wants this spread Pee Wee football. That will look wonderful in September but if we don't understand how differently that style transfers from lower opponent to elite opponent then we'll be shell shocked if we actually make it to a meaningful game in December. You can throw the ball wonderfully downfield in a power based version of the spread, like Ohio State owns. As much as I dislike that program it was unfortunate they didn't make the playoffs the past two seasons. It was a playoff caliber team and we'd have more vivid recent examples of what a Canes offense should look like. I've argued since the season in which Ohio State defeated Alabama and Oregon as underdog in the playoffs to win the national title that the Buckeye style is what the Canes should try to emulate. Big strong offensive line. Up tempo straight ahead power which opens up everything else downfield, whether it be short crossers or deep slants or tight ends sliding into space.

Anyway, with Major Applewhite obviously you can't allow him to make major decisions not involving offensive schemes. The D'Onofrio hire was hardly the only strange one. The guy thinks too much. Late in the second quarter of the recent bowl game he actually punted from the Army 29 yard line. I'm not sure I have ever seen that. Granted it was 4th and very long but just throw the ball aggressively toward the end zone. Army took all of one play to advance beyond its 29, after the brilliant decision to punt.
 
Applewhite is better than Fedora, if it has to be one that is the better recruiter and the one with more recent success at play calling
 
Either of these two are much better than James "RB Pass in Blizzard" Coley or whatever outdated BS Richt was running.
 
To play devil's advocate, you can make a case that defenses have adjusted significantly to what Fedora brings to the table. His recent offensive performances at UNC was not spectacular. His QB evaluations cost him his job.

On the other hand, pretty much this entire board has had a hard-on for Briles. Applewhite would run his offense quite similar in that he moves his guys outside of the hash in order to open up the middle of the field which is where I think we all agree Miami speed and talent has been most underutilized. He also uses a lot more formations than what Fedora showed.

And for the record, I'm good with either one.
 
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Most of you need to take the Homer sunglasses off. What has Miami done in the past 15 years that would make Fedora dumb for taking a hc job elsewhere than a oc job here? Smfh
 
King Slayer said:
Applewhite called at Texas and supposedly called during the Herman era at Houston. Fedora can't recruit looks at his recruits list
https://247sports.com/Coach/Larry-Fedora-634/
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Applewhite definitely called plays at houston during the Herman Houston era
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Awsi Dooger said:
I prefer Applewhite. More use of play action and more willing to throw the ball over the middle. That second aspect has been fearfully absent in Canes football for a decade.

Both of them abuse the bubble screens more than my taste. You cannot defeat top teams by throwing sideways. It is laughable that the attempts are even made. Washington basically forfeited any chance in the Rose Bowl by throwing short and sideways for the first three quarters of that game. The Buckeye defense is subpar this year but it is still athletic and fast, like always. Petersen played smack into their hands with all the moronic parallel plays. Finally when Browning started throwing aggressively downfield in the fourth quarter everything was there, just like it would have been there earlier in the game.

At least Applewhite has less of a bubble screen tendency than when he was at Texas. Fedora continued to default there in recent years and especially when he had Ryan Switzer.

The Canes offense needs to hit people and throw the ball aggressively downfield. I realize everyone wants this spread Pee Wee football. That will look wonderful in September but if we don't understand how differently that style transfers from lower opponent to elite opponent then we'll be shell shocked if we actually make it to a meaningful game in December. You can throw the ball wonderfully downfield in a power based version of the spread, like Ohio State owns. As much as I dislike that program it was unfortunate they didn't make the playoffs the past two seasons. It was a playoff caliber team and we'd have more vivid recent examples of what a Canes offense should look like. I've argued since the season in which Ohio State defeated Alabama and Oregon as underdog in the playoffs to win the national title that the Buckeye style is what the Canes should try to emulate. Big strong offensive line. Up tempo straight ahead power which opens up everything else downfield, whether it be short crossers or deep slants or tight ends sliding into space.

Anyway, with Major Applewhite obviously you can't allow him to make major decisions not involving offensive schemes. The D'Onofrio hire was hardly the only strange one. The guy thinks too much. Late in the second quarter of the recent bowl game he actually punted from the Army 29 yard line. I'm not sure I have ever seen that. Granted it was 4th and very long but just throw the ball aggressively toward the end zone. Army took all of one play to advance beyond its 29, after the brilliant decision to punt.
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Look at all of the real top teams...

Alabama
Clemson
Ohio State
Oklahoma

They are all pushing the ball downfield. Throw in Notre Dame with Ian Book, too. All had 8 or more yards per pass.
 
IdK man, when Applewhite was the (OC) at Houston his offense was fun to watch.

That crazy MF Fedora is what this offense needs IMO. Our offense has been way to soft for my liking. He would bring a whole different Cutler change

Applewhite is the better recruiter

Which ever one we get will be better then any OC we have had this last decade
 
Jimmy Johnson hired Randy Shannon. He should not be allowed around a football field.

Butch Davis hired Larry Coker. FIU should fire him.

Btw, as far as X and Os acumen goes, Applewhite ***** on both Shannon and Coker — two guys who won a national championship together.

Get a competent guy who runs a spread scheme that will attract and compliment south Florida athletes. That’s all that’s needed. We don’t need a savant.
King Slayer said:
Applewhite called at Texas and supposedly called during the Herman era at Houston. Fedora can't recruit looks at his recruits list
https://247sports.com/Coach/Larry-Fedora-634/
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Supposedly?

“We're going to sink or swim as a program on offense based on how well I manage that room,” Herman said. “I cut my teeth on that side of the ball coaching quarterbacks. I didn't call a single play at Houston — Major Applewhite called them.”

https://247sports.com/college/texas...own-on-priority-list-of-Tom-Herman-118651410/
 
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One reason I like Fedora over Applewhite is because fedora/tbd qb coach can point to Mitchell trubisky’s success & 1st round status when recruiting qbs. Moreover, if Tyree Jackson transfers in and gets drafted, that’d be another name fedora could use as a selling point.

If look at the top 15 qbs for 2020, half of them are already committed. Qb market is tough and we need someone whose qbs have both college and NFL success.
 
Kyle Liburd said:
One reason I like Fedora over Applewhite is because fedora/tbd qb coach can point to Mitchell trubisky’s success & 1st round status when recruiting qbs. Moreover, if Tyree Jackson transfers in and gets drafted, that’d be another name fedora could use as a selling point.

If look at the top 15 qbs for 2020, half of them are already committed. Qb market is tough and we need someone whose qbs have both college and NFL success.
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Until he takes the first P5 head coaching gig he can find in December.
 
dycane said:
Until he takes the first P5 head coaching gig he can find in December.
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Scared money don’t make none




PS

Fedora has spent at least 3 years at all his college jobs except Air Force (2 years). I also wouldn’t bet on a man (Applewhite) who cheated on his 8 month pregnant wife to be the most loyal OC and not look for other opportunities, if he succeeds.
 
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The more I think about it the more I think I want Apple.

He is a good recruiter and has those Texas ties y'all know I've been wanting for a while. We would get Texas QBs and maybe Texas O-linemen.

With Baker on board that gives us Louisiana ties (Something I also wanted) then you already have Simpson who has Georgia ties and has been recruiting the north east pretty well too.

My thing with Apple is his choice in coaches. Apple hiring No'D and Paul Williams gives me bubble guts. If he isn't given the choice to bring guys in then I'm all for him TBH.
 
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