Don't Panic! There is a path forward! (LONG)

[skibbyskibby]

Fair enough, but this as a baseline? No thanks.

Richt should be getting at least what Foley did, so again, for all your points on talent gaps, and school redux, I just don't buy it

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Is it really that uncommon for a new coach's baseline to be similar or even worse than the last year of the previous head coach? It's not. Richt brought in a new staff. He didn't bring in new players.

In terms of talent. Each year stands on its own. We have 65 scholarship players available to us right now. That is less than Golden had available to him at any given point in his tenure. Think about that. We are down 20 scholarship players. If you are recruiting well, that is probably 5 or 6 first round draft picks and several other NFL players that aren't on the field. That's significant.

This roster is depleted in key spots. Most notably, the offensive line. I think we could probably be doing better with what we've got, but there is no sugar coating how bad this OL is. Outside of the talent deficiency, we only have 6 total OL that we are willing to even put on the field and the 6th guy is Alex Gall.

Pt1
New coach baseline reasonable regression?
Fuente

Pt2
Talent? You go w scholly #s and hypotheticals.

We have the same players and additions, A Richards, for ex., who produced more ppg last year w Foley, with less exp.


Pt3.
OL? See above and...
The almost exact same OL from last year with a year exp, under a supposedly better line coach, where almost every preseason analyst had it in the plus column because of those factors towards what was to be BK's Junior year breakout...under the vaunted SEC QB whisperer, who was going back to his rejuvenated, winning OC ways.... because he wasn't hampered by overbearing Admin/ boosters?

That OLine? Yeah. That OLine.



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Does Fuente only have 65 scholarship athletes available to him?

 

[da truth]

You want half our ol to transfer? So when injuries happen we toss a 190lb walk on at left guard?

Also Gus is good. You renew that scholly

Saying to not renew gus is getting you negged

 

[skibbyskibby]

You want half our ol to transfer? So when injuries happen we toss a 190lb walk on at left guard?

Also Gus is good. You renew that scholly

Saying to not renew gus is getting you negged

Doesn't look like you read the whole post. Yes, I want half our OL to transfer, but I want to replace them with recruits. If we could bring on all the new talent we need at OL without having to get rid of some of the kids we have on roster then, I'd be all for it. Unfortunately, there are limits on the number of scholarships we can have, so we have to make room for the new talent. I'd like to release 7 current OL and replace them with Donaldson, Telfort, Slaton, Herbert, Hillery, and a JUCO OT. On net, that would only be a reduction of 1 OL from our current numbers. You following me now?

Yes, I think Gus is a good player, but he's not good enough. He's hardly getting any carries right now as it is. Next year, we'll still have Walton and Yearby who will still get carries ahead of Gus, and we'll have Homer and probably 2 freshman RBs. Homer will easily pass Gus on the depth chart by next Fall, and if we sign Burns and McFarland, I could see one or both of them easily passing Gus too. So, given that, why the **** would we keep a guy on the roster that has very little shot of getting meaningful playing time?

 

[harphong]

Fair enough, but this as a baseline? No thanks.

Richt should be getting at least what Foley did, so again, for all your points on talent gaps, and school redux, I just don't buy it

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Is it really that uncommon for a new coach's baseline to be similar or even worse than the last year of the previous head coach? It's not. Richt brought in a new staff. He didn't bring in new players.

In terms of talent. Each year stands on its own. We have 65 scholarship players available to us right now. That is less than Golden had available to him at any given point in his tenure. Think about that. We are down 20 scholarship players. If you are recruiting well, that is probably 5 or 6 first round draft picks and several other NFL players that aren't on the field. That's significant.

This roster is depleted in key spots. Most notably, the offensive line. I think we could probably be doing better with what we've got, but there is no sugar coating how bad this OL is. Outside of the talent deficiency, we only have 6 total OL that we are willing to even put on the field and the 6th guy is Alex Gall.

Pt1
New coach baseline reasonable regression?
Fuente

Pt2
Talent? You go w scholly #s and hypotheticals.

We have the same players and additions, A Richards, for ex., who produced more ppg last year w Foley, with less exp.


Pt3.
OL? See above and...
The almost exact same OL from last year with a year exp, under a supposedly better line coach, where almost every preseason analyst had it in the plus column because of those factors towards what was to be BK's Junior year breakout...under the vaunted SEC QB whisperer, who was going back to his rejuvenated, winning OC ways.... because he wasn't hampered by overbearing Admin/ boosters?

That OLine? Yeah. That OLine.



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Does Fuente only have 65 scholarship athletes available to him?

Excuse reminiscent of the golden era.

Our ones can beat their ones on talent.

Our twos as well.

Specious argument

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[skibbyskibby]

Fair enough, but this as a baseline? No thanks.

Richt should be getting at least what Foley did, so again, for all your points on talent gaps, and school redux, I just don't buy it

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Is it really that uncommon for a new coach's baseline to be similar or even worse than the last year of the previous head coach? It's not. Richt brought in a new staff. He didn't bring in new players.

In terms of talent. Each year stands on its own. We have 65 scholarship players available to us right now. That is less than Golden had available to him at any given point in his tenure. Think about that. We are down 20 scholarship players. If you are recruiting well, that is probably 5 or 6 first round draft picks and several other NFL players that aren't on the field. That's significant.

This roster is depleted in key spots. Most notably, the offensive line. I think we could probably be doing better with what we've got, but there is no sugar coating how bad this OL is. Outside of the talent deficiency, we only have 6 total OL that we are willing to even put on the field and the 6th guy is Alex Gall.

Pt1
New coach baseline reasonable regression?
Fuente

Pt2
Talent? You go w scholly #s and hypotheticals.

We have the same players and additions, A Richards, for ex., who produced more ppg last year w Foley, with less exp.


Pt3.
OL? See above and...
The almost exact same OL from last year with a year exp, under a supposedly better line coach, where almost every preseason analyst had it in the plus column because of those factors towards what was to be BK's Junior year breakout...under the vaunted SEC QB whisperer, who was going back to his rejuvenated, winning OC ways.... because he wasn't hampered by overbearing Admin/ boosters?

That OLine? Yeah. That OLine.



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Does Fuente only have 65 scholarship athletes available to him?

Excuse reminiscent of the golden era.

Our ones can beat their ones on talent.

Our twos as well.

Specious argument

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Bull****. Our starting OL is not as talented as VT's. We hardly have a two deep at most positions. We only had 3 DE's available last night and 2 of them are true freshman. Our 2's at LB are not very good. We don't even have a 2 deep at DB. We only have 6 OL that can play and the 6th guy is Gall. We really don't have any OT's on this team. Take a hard look at this roster right now, there are holes everywhere.

 

[NorthEastCane]

You want half our ol to transfer? So when injuries happen we toss a 190lb walk on at left guard?

Also Gus is good. You renew that scholly

Saying to not renew gus is getting you negged

Doesn't look like you read the whole post. Yes, I want half our OL to transfer, but I want to replace them with recruits. If we could bring on all the new talent we need at OL without having to get rid of some of the kids we have on roster then, I'd be all for it. Unfortunately, there are limits on the number of scholarships we can have, so we have to make room for the new talent. I'd like to release 7 current OL and replace them with Donaldson, Telfort, Slaton, Herbert, Hillery, and a JUCO OT. On net, that would only be a reduction of 1 OL from our current numbers. You following me now?

Yes, I think Gus is a good player, but he's not good enough. He's hardly getting any carries right now as it is. Next year, we'll still have Walton and Yearby who will still get carries ahead of Gus, and we'll have Homer and probably 2 freshman RBs. Homer will easily pass Gus on the depth chart by next Fall, and if we sign Burns and McFarland, I could see one or both of them easily passing Gus too. So, given that, why the **** would we keep a guy on the roster that has very little shot of getting meaningful playing time?

Yes. we're down on numbers. Yes, we've had numerous injuries. But you fail to mention that except for Sonny, none of the injuries are on the OL. The only choices are play the hand you're dealt or fold and give up.

You also say we should run off half the OL and replace them. Replace them with who??? You don't just go out there and pick up a 5* tackle because you want one. Even with the insignificant scholarship reductions, we still failed to sign up to our limit for the last several years. And without exception, everyone was fine with that because they wanted to fill the roster with "Miami caliber" talent not JAGs which is exactly what we'd get if we ran off 5-6 OL and scrambled to fill the roster.

This year and probably next, we're going to pay the price for past roster mismanagement. I'm not an X's and O's guy so I can't give specifics, but my primary issue is that Richt's adjustments aren't making it easier on the OL. We have two guards playing tackle that are being asked to do things that they just aren't capable of. They need to be thrown a lifeline instead of being exposed. If that's how they're going to game plan it, maybe it's best, for the time being, to play a mobile QB that is capable of running for their lives.

 

[skibbyskibby]

You want half our ol to transfer? So when injuries happen we toss a 190lb walk on at left guard?

Also Gus is good. You renew that scholly

Saying to not renew gus is getting you negged

Doesn't look like you read the whole post. Yes, I want half our OL to transfer, but I want to replace them with recruits. If we could bring on all the new talent we need at OL without having to get rid of some of the kids we have on roster then, I'd be all for it. Unfortunately, there are limits on the number of scholarships we can have, so we have to make room for the new talent. I'd like to release 7 current OL and replace them with Donaldson, Telfort, Slaton, Herbert, Hillery, and a JUCO OT. On net, that would only be a reduction of 1 OL from our current numbers. You following me now?

Yes, I think Gus is a good player, but he's not good enough. He's hardly getting any carries right now as it is. Next year, we'll still have Walton and Yearby who will still get carries ahead of Gus, and we'll have Homer and probably 2 freshman RBs. Homer will easily pass Gus on the depth chart by next Fall, and if we sign Burns and McFarland, I could see one or both of them easily passing Gus too. So, given that, why the **** would we keep a guy on the roster that has very little shot of getting meaningful playing time?

Yes. we're down on numbers. Yes, we've had numerous injuries. But you fail to mention that except for Sonny, none of the injuries are on the OL. The only choices are play the hand you're dealt or fold and give up.

You also say we should run off half the OL and replace them. Replace them with who??? You don't just go out there and pick up a 5* tackle because you want one. Even with the insignificant scholarship reductions, we still failed to sign up to our limit for the last several years. And without exception, everyone was fine with that because they wanted to fill the roster with "Miami caliber" talent not JAGs which is exactly what we'd get if we ran off 5-6 OL and scrambled to fill the roster.

This year and probably next, we're going to pay the price for past roster mismanagement. I'm not an X's and O's guy so I can't give specifics, but my primary issue is that Richt's adjustments aren't making it easier on the OL. We have two guards playing tackle that are being asked to do things that they just aren't capable of. They need to be thrown a lifeline instead of being exposed. If that's how they're going to game plan it, maybe it's best, for the time being, to play a mobile QB that is capable of running for their lives.

I would replace those guys with Donaldson, Telfort, Slaton, Herbert, and Hillary.