Donaldson has to be 370lbs

That Donaldson is overweight is on him. Vernon Carey when he show up looked just as bad, but he work on getting himself in shape, and got rewarded. Where i do blame the coaches is starting his butt. This is where you lose the team, when people are doing what there supposed to be doing and they still get pass over. This my be why we have had so many transfers, don't know how good or bad Cleveland Reed is, but he must be thinking to himself these coaches are full of it. The guys that were on the first team start of training camp were supposedly those who kick butt in the off season.
 
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so everyone else literally got into great shape, but one and now feeley sucks? maybe its more on the kid than the coach
Agreed. This is 100% on the kid. The overwhelming majority of this team is in very good shape. You have 1 guy here who simply isn’t doing what he is supposed to. In a draft year no less. It simply isn’t that important to him, which is unfortunate because he has a ton of ability.
 
Idk why he has gained so much. He must be eating a insane amount of food. The average NFL player has to eat 9,000 calories to not lose weight during the Regular Season so I would imagine it's pretty similar for college football players. Donaldson has to be eating around 10-12K calories a day
 
Idk why he has gained so much. He must be eating a insane amount of food. The average NFL player has to eat 9,000 calories to not lose weight during the Regular Season so I would imagine it's pretty similar for college football players. Donaldson has to be eating around 10-12K calories a day

if youve had classes w some of these kids, youd know they dont follow the diets accordingly (this was during the randy era). im sure its MUCH better now since golden began implementing nutrition standards and richt and now manny followed up with it. feeley seems to be really good but he cant be around the kid 24/7. donaldson prolly eating too many lime burritos in between classes or panda express along with late night meals
 
Agreed. This is 100% on the kid. The overwhelming majority of this team is in very good shape. You have 1 guy here who simply isn’t doing what he is supposed to. In a draft year no less. It simply isn’t that important to him, which is unfortunate because he has a ton of ability.

Here's why that rings hollow when you put it all on Donaldson. The coaches could have sent Donaldson a message that would have resonated with the entire team this past Spring and Summer, "Get down to 325-330 lbs or you will not play." What is the message to the team when you start someone doesn't care to maintain a level of conditioning that allows him to do his job? You can't play favorites. Can you blame Cleveland Reed for bouncing when he's busting his a$$ all off season and he's behind Donaldson who doesn't care enough to ensure he's fit to play. Yes, you can put this on the coaches.
 
That Donaldson is overweight is on him. Vernon Carey when he show up looked just as bad, but he work on getting himself in shape, and got rewarded. Where i do blame the coaches is starting his butt. This is where you lose the team, when people are doing what there supposed to be doing and they still get pass over. This my be why we have had so many transfers, don't know how good or bad Cleveland Reed is, but he must be thinking to himself these coaches are full of it. The guys that were on the first team start of training camp were supposedly those who kick butt in the off season.

very few kids wanna work for a starting job at this point. part of it, i think, is how theyre being coddled and told theyre the man throughout their hs careers. also, with OL, its just the one position group when stars dont matter. reed could just be a bad eval by searles (hes got plenty of them).
 
Here's why that rings hollow when you put it all on Donaldson. The coaches could have sent Donaldson a message that would have resonated with the entire team this past Spring and Summer, "Get down to 325-330 lbs or you will not play." What is the message to the team when you start someone doesn't care to maintain a level of conditioning that allows him to do his job? You can't play favorites. Can you blame Cleveland Reed for bouncing when he's busting his a$$ all off season and he's behind Donaldson who doesn't care enough to ensure he's fit to play. Yes, you can put this on the coaches.

you assume reed is even good? maybe he looked beyond putrid in practices where coaches couldnt even play him over vaughn
 
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you assume reed is even good? maybe he looked beyond putrid in practices where coaches couldn't even play him over vaughn
You want to change the subject by changing the discussion. Donaldson is currently being relieved by Campbell during games because of his lack of conditioning. Donaldson doesn't care enough to ensure he's fit to play. Campbell was really struggling early this season; however they have to incorporate him in the game because Donaldson is grossly unfit physically.
 
They cant force him to stop eating and make him train on his own. They arent allowed to be with him at all times. This is a lifestyle problem.

I know this..most of these folks don’t. They Act like a S&C is a God when it’s all about the players motivation.

Make sure this is repeated when we change S&C coaches.
 
Reed may have been putrid, but the first depth chart of the fall was based on how you perform in the off season. So how did ND even sniff first or second team ?
 
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