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DOLPHINS FIRST 2 ROUNDS

marshallrc13

marshallrc13

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First off hello to all. Haven't been on here in a while as I recently retired and was in between jobs. Working again in the logistics field in Norfolk if anyone is around here.
Man I am stuck on how I want this to play out. All along I wanted Gurley because I think he is going to be nasty. Some of you may say otherwise but mark it down. Kid is the goods and will be a stud. But, if we go with someone like Landon Collins in rnd 1 (safety position for Miami has sucked since the Louis Oliver days), we could always take Duke in rnd 2. Man what to do.

1. Gurley
2. Perryman
or
1. Collins
2. Duke
 
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It's looking more and more like Denzel to the Packers in rnd 1 so the first option probably isn't possible.
 
Here is the problem, if the Fins draft Gurley, it means he never recovers from the knee injury -- because that is the type of stuff that happens to Fins' 1st round picks. Please no Canes to the Fins. Let the kids have a chance at winning. I was in OB for Fins' opening KO return for TD and at every game until they moved. Their fate since then is cursed as our Canes.
 
Miami is a few players away from being very competitive. They lost 4 games last year in the last min which if those games changed they would have been 12-4. I love the idea of Canes to Dolphins players.
 
No need to go RB in the first few rounds IMO.

We still need ar WR in the first 2 rounds, and a CB.
 
Canesfan1899 said:
No need to go RB in the first few rounds IMO.

We still need ar WR in the first 2 rounds, and a CB.
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I don't think Lamar is the answer nor any of the other RBs on the roster. Lamar has been a major disappointment. Gurley is a game changer. I think WR is deep in this draft and we can get a quality one later.
 
DGB is an extreme talent but he's had off field issues. With everything happening these days high risk picks, unless you are already loaded, are tough. I see the following WRs avail 3rd rnd:

Stefon Diggs
Davaris Daniels
Rashad Greene
Ty Montgomery
Kenny Bell
JJ Worton
 
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I like Gurley when he is healthy, but he couldn't stay healthy in college, what makes anyone think he will stay healthy in NFL.

I don't think you draft a RB in Round 1, unless he is the absolute missing piece, and he has proven he is reliable clear #1 .

I don't think the Dolphins think they have a number 1 WR yet. They also need a MLB. They need a CB. They need another OL imo.

Also this draft has a lot of depth at RB. OUtside round 1 you can find..Tevin COleman, Abdullah, Johnson, Langford, Alajyi, Yeldon, Davis.

What if you can grab Flowers or another talented OL to help solidy the weakest part of your team the past 2 years. Then you grab a MLB like Perryman, Anthony, Dawson in round 2. Come back take a WR or CB in round 3? Or if you are sold on Parker, take him in round 1..then MLB in round 2, etc...
 
gacaneaddict said:
I like Gurley when he is healthy, but he couldn't stay healthy in college, what makes anyone think he will stay healthy in NFL.

I don't think you draft a RB in Round 1, unless he is the absolute missing piece, and he has proven he is reliable clear #1 .

I don't think the Dolphins think they have a number 1 WR yet. They also need a MLB. They need a CB. They need another OL imo.

Also this draft has a lot of depth at RB. OUtside round 1 you can find..Tevin COleman, Abdullah, Johnson, Langford, Alajyi, Yeldon, Davis.

What if you can grab Flowers or another talented OL to help solidy the weakest part of your team the past 2 years. Then you grab a MLB like Perryman, Anthony, Dawson in round 2. Come back take a WR or CB in round 3? Or if you are sold on Parker, take him in round 1..then MLB in round 2, etc...
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I like your thought process. A lot... I just feel Gurley is going to be a game changer. I don't recall him getting hurt other than this time.
 
gacaneaddict said:
I like Gurley when he is healthy, but he couldn't stay healthy in college, what makes anyone think he will stay healthy in NFL.

I don't think you draft a RB in Round 1, unless he is the absolute missing piece, and he has proven he is reliable clear #1 .

I don't think the Dolphins think they have a number 1 WR yet. They also need a MLB. They need a CB. They need another OL imo.

Also this draft has a lot of depth at RB. OUtside round 1 you can find..Tevin COleman, Abdullah, Johnson, Langford, Alajyi, Yeldon, Davis.

What if you can grab Flowers or another talented OL to help solidy the weakest part of your team the past 2 years. Then you grab a MLB like Perryman, Anthony, Dawson in round 2. Come back take a WR or CB in round 3? Or if you are sold on Parker, take him in round 1..then MLB in round 2, etc...
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You also have to remember we don't have a 3rd round pick, we gave it up for Kenny Stills. Grabbing an OL sounds nice but we've invested too much into that position over the years; I think like 6 early round OL since 2011 which is tied with Dallas who has a good line. We need to solidify our OL but we also need play makers. I also think its a deep draft at RB its just that it drops off after Duke, Ajayi, and Coleman imo. Everyone after them are 3rd down backs at best.
 
marshallrc13 said:
gacaneaddict said:
I like Gurley when he is healthy, but he couldn't stay healthy in college, what makes anyone think he will stay healthy in NFL.

I don't think you draft a RB in Round 1, unless he is the absolute missing piece, and he has proven he is reliable clear #1 .

I don't think the Dolphins think they have a number 1 WR yet. They also need a MLB. They need a CB. They need another OL imo.

Also this draft has a lot of depth at RB. OUtside round 1 you can find..Tevin COleman, Abdullah, Johnson, Langford, Alajyi, Yeldon, Davis.

What if you can grab Flowers or another talented OL toj help solidify the weakest part of your team the past 2 years. Then you grab a MLB like Perryman, Anthony, Dawson in round 2. Come back take a WR or CB in round 3? Or if you are sold on Parker, take him in round 1..then MLB in round 2, etc...
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I like your thought process. A lot... I just feel Gurley is going to be a game changer. I don't recall him getting hurt other than this time.
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If I'm not mistaken he was injured in his sophomore season as well.
 
No running backs in the first round. If there's no one there, then trade out and pick up an extra pick.
 
marshallrc13 said:
gacaneaddict said:
I like Gurley when he is healthy, but he couldn't stay healthy in college, what makes anyone think he will stay healthy in NFL.

I don't think you draft a RB in Round 1, unless he is the absolute missing piece, and he has proven he is reliable clear #1 .

I don't think the Dolphins think they have a number 1 WR yet. They also need a MLB. They need a CB. They need another OL imo.

Also this draft has a lot of depth at RB. OUtside round 1 you can find..Tevin COleman, Abdullah, Johnson, Langford, Alajyi, Yeldon, Davis.

What if you can grab Flowers or another talented OL to help solidy the weakest part of your team the past 2 years. Then you grab a MLB like Perryman, Anthony, Dawson in round 2. Come back take a WR or CB in round 3? Or if you are sold on Parker, take him in round 1..then MLB in round 2, etc...
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I like your thought process. A lot... I just feel Gurley is going to be a game changer. I don't recall him getting hurt other than this time.
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I think he could be a game changer however i don't think he would succeed behind out bigger need which is oline. Gurley would be a good pick if we were just a running back away from being a real contender but we have more pressing needs.
 
If they're going to take a corner at 12, I don't care what the "consensus" rankings say...you take Peters. He's the best corner in the draft IMO. He's a headcase...but that's why coaches make a lot of money, to control headcases. It's also why they carry 47 coaches on the staff.

My preference is to go receiver at 14. In a perfect world that would be Parker but I'd be fine with Perriman.

If, in that scenario, you take the receiver at 14 and Peters slips into the late first you get on the phone and do everything in your power to trade up back into the first (give them our 2nd rounder plus something else) and you take Peters.

Boom...2 huge areas of need solved in one draft.

Another guy I'd keep an eye on is the O lineman from LSU (Collins) who's latest legal issue may cause him to fall significantly. Guy was viewed as a consensus top 20 pick....if he slides into the second round you start to hit the point where the tremendous downside (he's found guilty) intersects TREMENDOUS upside (getting a first round talent and immediate starter in the 2nd or 3rd round). God knows we've wasted 2nd round picks on a lot worse gambles (Pat White).
 
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Morey161 said:
**** no to Collins
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At the right price? I'm talking 2nd or 3rd round....that's a **** of a lot of upside. He's a plug and play day 1 starter with top 20 talent.

The 2nd and 3rd rounds are less than 50-50 propositions to begin with, you'd have the opportunity to take a guy who you KNOW, talent wise, would give you tremendous value. These NFL guys have info the public doesn't get....if it's considered a longshot that he goes to jail you have to at least consider him on Day 2.
 
Todd Gurley, DeVante Parker, or Trade down. The CB's available are risks IMO and/or not 14th overall worthy
 
Jedi Master Cane said:
Morey161 said:
**** no to Collins
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At the right price? I'm talking 2nd or 3rd round....that's a **** of a lot of upside. He's a plug and play day 1 starter with top 20 talent.

The 2nd and 3rd rounds are less than 50-50 propositions to begin with, you'd have the opportunity to take a guy who you KNOW, talent wise, would give you tremendous value. These NFL guys have info the public doesn't get....if it's considered a longshot that he goes to jail you have to at least consider him on Day 2.
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2nd round is fine by me. I was talking about in the 1st round.
 
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