Does Miami Make The CFP in 2025?

[miamifan007]

No it’s clear that the committee wants both ND and Bama instead of us.

I disagree.

IMO if BYU loses, they're out and Miami is in cause they'll jump Catholics.

 

[Canestomp]

We have got a lot of national media types vouching for the H2H--and openly too. Pate went scorched earth last night on it. Finebum and SAS both agreed on putting Miami of ND...how often does them agreeing ever happen. We have politicians weighing in. Wind's are at our backs boys. We absolutely have the high-ground here.

Lots of philosophical questions being thrown around about how this will affect this sport long-term. This is not a UGA vs FSU '23 similar issue. The question is literally, "with two teams, nearly identical outcomes and comparisons and common opponents and with a head-to-head result. Does the head-to-head matter?" If the answer is it does not then we are in some serious trouble as a sport. Where do you even go at that point to measure victory between two teams if their matchup doesn't matter?

One-Hundred Fifty-Four years of precedent is about to be changed by a committee led by a cuck should they forego the head-to-head. Miami haters are celebrating our snub as a win for them--but it will be short-lived. If H2H doesn't matter for us, it won't matter for them either when it is their turn--and college football will be worse for it.

 

[canesigep23]

If BYU loses, we are in.

It's not just BYU. What Bama does is just as important. They lose by 7-10 points and all that does is move them back to 10 and ND up to 9, leaving us right back to where we were before last night.

Need Bama to also win or get absolutely throttled by 30 points (not going to happen).

 

[EightiesCane]

The committee moved Alabama up; they are laying the groundwork to leave Miami out regardless of what happens in the B12 and SEC championship games.

Plus, I think they want the narrative this week to be between ND and Bama. They clearly want to keep ND in the field, and the last thing they need is another week of Miami vs ND. If ND weren't coming off a Final appearance last year, they wouldn't be in the field.

 

[aelmiami]

I thought this. Part of me still does. But maybe I’m just exhausted since Saturday. We’re two spots behind yet somehow they don’t consider us in the same pod? Us being one spot a part isn’t going to convince me they’ll do the right thing. But why even tease us and move us up to begin with?

Leaving us at 12 just makes me feel like they already made their decision regardless of what happens Saturday. The only thing I can think of that might change something is enough rage media to make the CFP think longer and harder about completely disregarding our H2H matchup. So far, not much. I can’t believe their justification for moving Alabama up a spot. It was comical. If they had moved us to #11, I’d have a shred of hope. We haven’t had any luck getting teams like OU and Bama to drop games. Nothing has really gone our way there and I’m a bit over it.

I’ve seen people say BYU winning helps us (it doesn’t) because it would put us next to ND. But that will grant a Big 12 team a CFP spot because TTU is not falling out of the 12. BYU winning would knock ND out of anything and there wouldn’t be spots for either of us.

If ND was 9, I’d be focusing on basketball rn. But they dropped them 10. Here’s where you insert the Brian Windhorst meme. Why would they do that?

BYU has to lose and preferably pretty handily. Why would they move ND to 10? It’s two reasons. This makes it very easy to drop both us and them out if BYU wins and say Bama loses. But if BYU loses and drops behind us, we will get right next to ND. It’s basically giving the committee an out. If I was ND or a ND fan I’d be nervous as **** tbh. Seems like they are DOA with the last rankings imo.

 

[jtwist89]

They made it seem like we had a chance and they were hoping we lost against Pitt. 1st it was because we’re weren’t in the same “group” as Notre Dame. Now it’s because we’re not directly next to each other. Gtfoh. Your blind that you can’t look past one team and see we won the head to head? They should say head to head only matters if you’re ranked together. Does anyone honestly think that if Alabama had our season there would even be a debate. They do wtf they want to do. If we’re ever going to get #6, it needs to be complete domination to overcome this crap, officiating, etc. It sucks but it is what it is.

 

[DubCaliCane]

The only options should be “emotionally broken”

 

[LeanMeanOrangeGreen]

If ND was 9, I’d be focusing on basketball rn. But they dropped them 10. Here’s where you insert the Brian Windhorst meme. Why would they do that?

BYU has to lose and preferably pretty handily. Why would they move ND to 10? It’s two reasons. This makes it very easy to drop both us and them out if BYU wins and say Bama loses. But if BYU loses and drops behind us, we will get right next to ND. It’s basically giving the committee an out. If I was ND or a ND fan I’d be nervous as **** tbh. Seems like they are DOA with the last rankings imo.

This is what I want to believe. Josh Pate mentioned something about us rooting for Duke because he doesn’t think the CFP is going to shut out a P4 conference, especially one with a team as good as Miami and doesn’t buy the “two G5 team” possibility. Part of me thinks this could be true. The CFP can’t want 2 G5 teams in the 12 team field that would be insane. Feel like giving one G5 team was nice enough.

 

[UMFarArcher]

Whether we're in - or not - I want to know the answer to just one question.

Is Mario going to quit putting the brakes on our offenses and costing us games going forward?

Nothing else matters.

 

[Ryanmilli]

I am an optimistic person, but voted no. The committee is making clear with its actions that its goal is to maximize the amount of SEC teams in the playoff.

Moving Bama to #9 when there was no legitimate reason to do so is just to ensure they get in (and therefore that there are 5 SEC teams) regardless of the SEC championship outcome and to ensure that it is ND and not an SEC team that gets knocked out if BYU upsets TT.

They are flat out gaslighting us at this point. An entire group of people who can watch that hideous Iron Bowl and move Bama up a spot is not making a serious attempt at ranking teams--they are doing something else. And the whole Miami vs ND head-to-head thing is just a distraction from the fact that Oklahoma sucks and has no right to be in the playoff. They are 13 in Sagarin and SP+ and 16 in FPI, behind Vandy in all three.

 

[NE Canes]

People still haven't figured it out yet.....

 

[aelmiami]

This is what I want to believe. Josh Pate mentioned something about us rooting for Duke because he doesn’t think the CFP is going to shut out a P4 conference, especially one with a team as good as Miami and doesn’t buy the “two G5 team” possibility. Part of me thinks this could be true. The CFP can’t want 2 G5 teams in the 12 team field that would be insane. Feel like giving one G5 team was nice enough.

Well two G5 teams would make it. They wouldn’t leave a conference champ out in favor of us. They’d put us in over ND so the ACC doesn’t get shut out entirely. That was his point.

 

[OrangeBowlMagic]

I am an optimistic person, but voted no. The committee is making clear with its actions that its goal is to maximize the amount of SEC teams in the playoff.

Moving Bama to #9 when there was no legitimate reason to do so is just to ensure they get in (and therefore that there are 5 SEC teams) regardless of the SEC championship outcome and to ensure that it is ND and not an SEC team that gets knocked out if BYU upsets TT.

They are flat out gaslighting us at this point. An entire group of people who can watch that hideous Iron Bowl and move Bama up a spot is not making a serious attempt at ranking teams--they are doing something else. And the whole Miami vs ND head-to-head thing is just a distraction from the fact that Oklahoma sucks and has no right to be in the playoff. They are 13 in Sagarin and SP+ and 16 in FPI, behind Vandy in all three.

At least OU has good wins. What does ND have?

 

[Handsome Squidbum]

We have got a lot of national media types vouching for the H2H--and openly too. Pate went scorched earth last night on it. Finebum and SAS both agreed on putting Miami of ND...how often does them agreeing ever happen. We have politicians weighing in. Wind's are at our backs boys. We absolutely have the high-ground here.

Lots of philosophical questions being thrown around about how this will affect this sport long-term. This is not a UGA vs FSU '23 similar issue. The question is literally, "with two teams, nearly identical outcomes and comparisons and common opponents and with a head-to-head result. Does the head-to-head matter?" If the answer is it does not then we are in some serious trouble as a sport. Where do you even go at that point to measure victory between two teams if their matchup doesn't matter?

One-Hundred Fifty-Four years of precedent is about to be changed by a committee led by a cuck should they forego the head-to-head. Miami haters are celebrating our snub as a win for them--but it will be short-lived. If H2H doesn't matter for us, it won't matter for them either when it is their turn--and college football will be worse for it.

I haven’t seen even one sports media figure saying ND should get in over Miami. Many (most actually) are notorious Miami haters but they understand the far bigger impact on the sport if H2H is ultimately ignored in favor of “metrics.” Once you go down that road, a playoff committee will no longer have any credibility- people will rightfully assume they will just cherrypick statistics to justify their predetermined ranking.

It’s like Honest Abe said- You can fool some of the people all the time, and all of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time.

Miami isn’t a small brand. Most programs don’t have our name recognition. Smart ADs are going to stop scheduling premier OOC conference games that are lucrative to conferences and tv networks because H2H will be irrelevant.

And I would go one step further - instead of joining a P2 with the 2030ish realignment, if I was calling the shots at Miami I would advocate for a smart commissioner like Yormark to take the lead in creating a separate cfb system, with its own playoffs and focus on deals with streaming platforms instead of dying bloated media companies. Even if Miami joins the B1G or SEC it doesn’t change the fact that we will always get pushed out for a UGA, Bama, or ND.

 

[Schnelly'sPipe]

 

[LMCane]

We have got a lot of national media types vouching for the H2H--and openly too. Pate went scorched earth last night on it. Finebum and SAS both agreed on putting Miami of ND...how often does them agreeing ever happen. We have politicians weighing in. Wind's are at our backs boys. We absolutely have the high-ground here.

Lots of philosophical questions being thrown around about how this will affect this sport long-term. This is not a UGA vs FSU '23 similar issue. The question is literally, "with two teams, nearly identical outcomes and comparisons and common opponents and with a head-to-head result. Does the head-to-head matter?" If the answer is it does not then we are in some serious trouble as a sport. Where do you even go at that point to measure victory between two teams if their matchup doesn't matter?

One-Hundred Fifty-Four years of precedent is about to be changed by a committee led by a cuck should they forego the head-to-head. Miami haters are celebrating our snub as a win for them--but it will be short-lived. If H2H doesn't matter for us, it won't matter for them either when it is their turn--and college football will be worse for it.

every P4 team will and should cancel every out of conference P4 matchup if the committee screws Miami

there is LITERALLY zero reason if you want to make the playoffs to schedule a tough out of conference game if beating a team has no benefit to your program.

 

[Ryanmilli]

This is what I want to believe. Josh Pate mentioned something about us rooting for Duke because he doesn’t think the CFP is going to shut out a P4 conference, especially one with a team as good as Miami and doesn’t buy the “two G5 team” possibility. Part of me thinks this could be true. The CFP can’t want 2 G5 teams in the 12 team field that would be insane. Feel like giving one G5 team was nice enough.

There would have to be 2 G5 teams if Duke wins. One thing nobody is talking about much is that the committee slipped JMU and North Texas into the Top 25 this week. Tulane is at 20. So the AAC winner is guaranteed in the field. JMU is more than a 3 TD favorite over Troy, so odds are good they will win. So it is JMU for the final spot unless Virginia wins (which it likely will).

Maybe I am overly jaded at this point, but my whole perspective on the CFP is that it's set up to maximize the number of SEC teams as well as their chances for success. They really do not want to go a third year with no SEC team winning the title. Saban said it--nobody wants to play the Canes. There is no chance in **** they are letting us in to spoil the party and there is zero consideration being given to making sure they have an ACC team in. They couldn't care less. In fact, this is now set up so if anyone gets knocked out it is ND, another team that would boat race a lot of these SEC teams.

 

[Ryanmilli]

At least OU has good wins. What does ND have?

An offense. ND would be about a 9 point favorite on a neutral field against Oklahoma based on Sagarin. Close to a touchdown at OU. And if it happens, which is possible or maybe even likely, it will not be that close. Who would you rather have UM play?

 

[OrangeBowlMagic]

An offense. ND would be about a 9 point favorite on a neutral field against Oklahoma based on Sagarin. Close to a touchdown at OU. And if it happens, which is possible or maybe even likely, it will not be that close. Who would you rather have UM play?

I'm not going by Vegas odds. If you do, then ND > Miami, because they'd be 5.5 to 6 against us on a neutral. I'm going by resume. OU's resume deserves to have them ranked ahead of ND, and they are.

I'd much rather play OU, of course. But we're all here arguing Miami's resume > ND's resume for justification to put us in. If it was just Vegas/power rankings, we'd be behind ND (but above several other playoff teams, which is insanely frustrating).

 

[PIPO]

What say you?

Butttttt…………