Does anyone have a list of our football staff from 2000?

[clg003]

Unlike Butch being a 1st time HC we do have Richt's last 15 years to assess his past hires. How many of them have been shown to be elite hires?

This wasn't meant as Butch v. Richt thread. I'm more concerned with what's happened here at UM.

I understand your pessimism, but several of Richt's UGA guys either took promotions or remained high-level college assistants. He didn't hire many guys who completely flopped. I can think of Martinez as a major flop who got demoted to position coach from DC.

Come on everything for butt hurts is a Butch vs. thread.

Richt has taken careful consideration and has hired the best possible staff that takes all things into consideration... technique, recruiting and budget. This is a dude who had 100s of coaches to choose from. To even entertain these clowns that act like one the most winningest coaches over the last 5, 10 and 15 years is clueless is FK mindfuhck. These guys would complain about Bellicheck being the special teams coach because their askes have been raped and their egos are so hurt that they are basically mindless fools walking around with their ***** in a jar and their pants around their ankles.

We are in a wait and see mode but this staff was part of a plan that was produced by a guy who isnt a FN porster, but get this, is one of the most successful college coaches over the last 15 years.

Richt understands Miami football and he understands our budget we have just put together the best coaching staff in the ACC. This **** evidently talk our BOT into doing what he wanted. FN jedi mind trick if you really think about it. "Miami is a football school and you will pay for my assistants". My god where we have come from and where we are right now is night and day. No other school has upgraded like we have. Anyone who doesnt see that is a FN troll. What else would a troll do?

Miami is back to being a football school and take it for what its worth but I have heard Jimbo has had 27 anxiety attacks over the last 2 weeks and even though Dabo is in the national title game he is waking up every night screaming something about the sleeping giant and getting his agent on the line to test his NFL prospects.

We back Fers we back. Time to put two middle fingers up to the football world again so they start hating us like these trolls do for years to come.

 

[The Franchise]

Unlike Butch being a 1st time HC we do have Richt's last 15 years to assess his past hires. How many of them have been shown to be elite hires?

This wasn't meant as Butch v. Richt thread. I'm more concerned with what's happened here at UM.

I understand your pessimism, but several of Richt's UGA guys either took promotions or remained high-level college assistants. He didn't hire many guys who completely flopped. I can think of Martinez as a major flop who got demoted to position coach from DC.

LOL, no I wasn't trying to be pessimistic at all. It was a legit question.

This is what I could find on Richt real quick.

-Every one knows about Mark Bobo, he is the HC at CSU.

-OC and OL coach Neil Callaway became HC at UAB

- DC Brian vanGorder left to become an assistant for the Jacksonville Jaguars, then became the HC at Ga Southern for a year, then became a coach for the Falcons, now DC for Notre Lame

- Kirby Smart was UGA RB coach and left to become Safeties coach of the Dolphins before leaving with Saban to become the Bama DC

Smart being a RB coach is really weird considering he had been defense up to and after that. But he was only with UGA 1 year.

So pretty decent to be honest.

Then, you have some of the younger guys like McClendon and our own Brown who have moved up pretty quickly and seem to have super bright futures. They're already both co-OCs.

 

[nwFL Griz]

Someone mentioned Saban's assistants as performing well after leaving his staff. I don't think that is true. I don't think his tree is impressive at all.

 

[Miami82]

Unlike Butch being a 1st time HC we do have Richt's last 15 years to assess his past hires. How many of them have been shown to be elite hires?

This wasn't meant as Butch v. Richt thread. I'm more concerned with what's happened here at UM.

I understand your pessimism, but several of Richt's UGA guys either took promotions or remained high-level college assistants. He didn't hire many guys who completely flopped. I can think of Martinez as a major flop who got demoted to position coach from DC.

Come on everything for butt hurts is a Butch vs. thread.

Richt has taken careful consideration and has hired the best possible staff that takes all things into consideration... technique, recruiting and budget. This is a dude who had 100s of coaches to choose from. To even entertain these clowns that act like one the most winningest coaches over the last 5, 10 and 15 years is clueless is FK mindfuhck. These guys would complain about Bellicheck being the special teams coach because their askes have been raped and their egos are so hurt that they are basically mindless fools walking around with their ***** in a jar and their pants around their ankles.

We are in a wait and see mode but this staff was part of a plan that was produced by a guy who isnt a FN porster, but get this, is one of the most successful college coaches over the last 15 years.

Richt understands Miami football and he understands our budget we have just put together the best coaching staff in the ACC. This **** evidently talk our BOT into doing what he wanted. FN jedi mind trick if you really think about it. "Miami is a football school and you will pay for my assistants". My god where we have come from and where we are right now is night and day. No other school has upgraded like we have. Anyone who doesnt see that is a FN troll. What else would a troll do?

Miami is back to being a football school and take it for what its worth but I have heard Jimbo has had 27 anxiety attacks over the last 2 weeks and even though Dabo is in the national title game he is waking up every night screaming something about the sleeping giant and getting his agent on the line to test his NFL prospects.

We back Fers we back. Time to put two middle fingers up to the football world again so they start hating us like these trolls do for years to come.

I know it's real hard for you to not act like petulant child, but try.

There hasn't been any name calling in this thread till you started this childish behaviour.

 

[youngbuck]

What the **** happened to Greg Mark? After he got fired as one of Coker's scapegoats he disappeared from coaching.

 

[Miami82]

Someone mentioned Saban's assistants as performing well after leaving his staff. I don't think that is true. I don't think his tree is impressive at all.

I think its pretty good actually. Nick Saban's coaching tree has varying levels of success

Add in Smart recently to UGA and we will see how he does.

 

[Miami82]

Unlike Butch being a 1st time HC we do have Richt's last 15 years to assess his past hires. How many of them have been shown to be elite hires?

This wasn't meant as Butch v. Richt thread. I'm more concerned with what's happened here at UM.

I understand your pessimism, but several of Richt's UGA guys either took promotions or remained high-level college assistants. He didn't hire many guys who completely flopped. I can think of Martinez as a major flop who got demoted to position coach from DC.

LOL, no I wasn't trying to be pessimistic at all. It was a legit question.

This is what I could find on Richt real quick.

-Every one knows about Mark Bobo, he is the HC at CSU.

-OC and OL coach Neil Callaway became HC at UAB

- DC Brian vanGorder left to become an assistant for the Jacksonville Jaguars, then became the HC at Ga Southern for a year, then became a coach for the Falcons, now DC for Notre Lame

- Kirby Smart was UGA RB coach and left to become Safeties coach of the Dolphins before leaving with Saban to become the Bama DC

Smart being a RB coach is really weird considering he had been defense up to and after that. But he was only with UGA 1 year.

So pretty decent to be honest.

Then, you have some of the younger guys like McClendon and our own Brown who have moved up pretty quickly and seem to have super bright futures. They're already both co-OCs.

I haven't given this staff a grade yet until we know who the S&C guy is. If it ends up being Pat Ivey, its an easy B IMO.

 

[The Franchise]

Unlike Butch being a 1st time HC we do have Richt's last 15 years to assess his past hires. How many of them have been shown to be elite hires?

This wasn't meant as Butch v. Richt thread. I'm more concerned with what's happened here at UM.

I understand your pessimism, but several of Richt's UGA guys either took promotions or remained high-level college assistants. He didn't hire many guys who completely flopped. I can think of Martinez as a major flop who got demoted to position coach from DC.

LOL, no I wasn't trying to be pessimistic at all. It was a legit question.

This is what I could find on Richt real quick.

-Every one knows about Mark Bobo, he is the HC at CSU.

-OC and OL coach Neil Callaway became HC at UAB

- DC Brian vanGorder left to become an assistant for the Jacksonville Jaguars, then became the HC at Ga Southern for a year, then became a coach for the Falcons, now DC for Notre Lame

- Kirby Smart was UGA RB coach and left to become Safeties coach of the Dolphins before leaving with Saban to become the Bama DC

Smart being a RB coach is really weird considering he had been defense up to and after that. But he was only with UGA 1 year.

So pretty decent to be honest.

Then, you have some of the younger guys like McClendon and our own Brown who have moved up pretty quickly and seem to have super bright futures. They're already both co-OCs.

I haven't given this staff a grade yet until we know who the S&C guy is. If it ends up being Pat Ivey, its an easy B IMO.

We need to close it out with a creature at S&C no doubt. Ivey would be a grand slam walk off.

I'm skeptical of Diaz, but I'm hoping he can see a bump similar to the one Collins saw when he went to UF with increased talent. It's pretty much blind hope though, as he's had checkered results. A few of the advanced stats on him are good and a few tell us part of the reason his team had such a bad TOP--his D couldn't get off the field. Then, there's the Texas abortion when he got a marquee shot.

One thing I love about the staff is that Richt will be calling plays. This dude's a big time veteran pro in the play-calling game. If we can see some of that old FSU fast break offense here I'd soil my diaper in front.

 

[Miami82]

We need to close it out with a creature at S&C no doubt. Ivey would be a grand slam walk off.

I'm skeptical of Diaz, but I'm hoping he can see a bump similar to the one Collins saw when he went to UF with increased talent. It's pretty much blind hope though, as he's had checkered results. A few of the advanced stats on him are good and a few tell us part of the reason his team had such a bad TOP--his D couldn't get off the field. Then, there's the Texas abortion when he got a marquee shot.

One thing I love about the staff is that Richt will be calling plays. This dude's a big time veteran pro in the play-calling game. If we can see some of that old FSU fast break offense here I'd soil my diaper in front.

At the end of the day this team is going to be fun to watch again. I think Diaz D will be fun and aggressive, sure we will still analyse the **** out of it, that's what we do, but it won't be because we are playing passive and sitting back on our heels like the last 5 years.

Richt is showing me something in that I didn't think he would be as hungry, but I get the feeling he really feels slighted by UGA and now he is going to show them.

Recruiting is up next, lets see what he can do there now.

 

[nwFL Griz]

Someone mentioned Saban's assistants as performing well after leaving his staff. I don't think that is true. I don't think his tree is impressive at all.

I think its pretty good actually. Nick Saban's coaching tree has varying levels of success

Add in Smart recently to UGA and we will see how he does.

Wait a minute, how is it decided which coach comes from which tree? Smart started under Richt, and that article claims McIlwein under saban, but that is a stretch, in my book.

 

[Miami82]

Someone mentioned Saban's assistants as performing well after leaving his staff. I don't think that is true. I don't think his tree is impressive at all.

I think its pretty good actually. Nick Saban's coaching tree has varying levels of success

Add in Smart recently to UGA and we will see how he does.

Wait a minute, how is it decided which coach comes from which tree? Smart started under Richt, and that article claims McIlwein under saban, but that is a stretch, in my book.

Actually he was under Saban at LSU back in 04.

Coaching career (HC unless noted)
1999 Georgia (AA)
2000 Valdosta State (DB)
2001 Valdosta State (DC)
2002–2003 Florida State (GA)
2004 LSU (DB)
2005 Georgia (RB)
2006 Miami Dolphins (S)
2007 Alabama (AHC/DB)
2008–2016 Alabama (DC)
2016–present Georgia

 

[Zbrod95]

Someone mentioned Saban's assistants as performing well after leaving his staff. I don't think that is true. I don't think his tree is impressive at all.

so you don't think mark dantonio, Jim mcelwain, jimbo fisher, jason Garrett, and josh McDaniels is impressive..

 

[JgDaCane]

Top notch stuff.

 

[Torocane]

Coker before Miami oc

1971–1976 Fairfax (OK) HS
1977–1978 Claremore (OK) HS
1979 Tulsa (RB/QB)
1980–1982 Tulsa (OC)
1983–1989 Oklahoma St. (OC)
1990–1992 Oklahoma (OC)
1993–1994 Ohio St. (DB)
1995 Ohio St. (QB)

I looked up a couple and one was Coker. Surprising pedigree. I never realized he spent one year as JJ's OC at Ok State.

I had no idea he had that experience/pedigree. Anyone know the nature of his departures from Oklahoma State and Oklahoma?

I know he got fired at OU. That's how he wound up as a DB coach at Ohio Taint. His old buddy John Cooper hooked him up with a job. I think he left Okie State on his own to go to OU.

It was by chance Coker ended up being hired here. Butch was going to hire Tressman as the OC. Tressman comes to the campus to sign the contract but the SF forty-niner's are practicing at the facility and somehow they end up hiring Tressman as their OC. Butch had to scramble and ended up with Coker.
How different things might have worked out.

 

[ben]

What the **** happened to Greg Mark? After he got fired as one of Coker's scapegoats he disappeared from coaching.

i was just thinking the same thing. is there something more to the story?

 

[harphong]

franchise and Miami 82 got me some fancy Book learnin' in this thread. thank you.

 

[caneinpsl]

What the **** happened to Greg Mark? After he got fired as one of Coker's scapegoats he disappeared from coaching.

i was just thinking the same thing. is there something more to the story?

Didn't he have a business he was running or something??? I remember one of the guys Coker cut loose had a big side gig that was lucrative and time consuming, and I think it was Mark.

 

[caneinpsl]

Unlike Butch being a 1st time HC we do have Richt's last 15 years to assess his past hires. How many of them have been shown to be elite hires?

I would definitely feel better if he had a better track record. As far as I know only 2 of his assistants ever went on to be HCs in college. Neil Callaway who flamed out at UAB and Mike Bobo who finished up his first year at CSU. Pretty remarkable for a guy who had a lot of success in 15 years on the job. Compare that to Saban's and Urban's assistants and could be a reason why Richt never got UGA over the hump.

Hope it work outs and we are looking back at this staff like the 2000 one.

Yep, I've said the same thing on this board. I'd wager that is part of it.

I don't totally disagree with you, but I also think the idea the UGA is an elite place to win is an over-hyped idea. Take Richt's 15 years at UGA off the table, and their winning % isn't any better that North Carolina's. And UGA rode one of the best RB's in the history of CFB to their only title. IMHO the main reason that Richt did not win a title at UGA was that it's not as desirable a coaching stop as it is portrayed to be. Not a bad one, but not great either seeing that the path to the title goes right through a bunch of juggernaut programs.

 

[nwFL Griz]

Someone mentioned Saban's assistants as performing well after leaving his staff. I don't think that is true. I don't think his tree is impressive at all.

I think its pretty good actually. Nick Saban's coaching tree has varying levels of success

Add in Smart recently to UGA and we will see how he does.

Wait a minute, how is it decided which coach comes from which tree? Smart started under Richt, and that article claims McIlwein under saban, but that is a stretch, in my book.

Actually he was under Saban at LSU back in 04.

Coaching career (HC unless noted)
1999 Georgia (AA)
2000 Valdosta State (DB)
2001 Valdosta State (DC)
2002–2003 Florida State (GA)
2004 LSU (DB)
2005 Georgia (RB)
2006 Miami Dolphins (S)
2007 Alabama (AHC/DB)
2008–2016 Alabama (DC)
2016–present Georgia

Someone mentioned Saban's assistants as performing well after leaving his staff. I don't think that is true. I don't think his tree is impressive at all.

so you don't think mark dantonio, Jim mcelwain, jimbo fisher, jason Garrett, and josh McDaniels is impressive..

Again, when is it decided who's tree a coach comes from? You randomly pick some spot a dude was at to decide? To credit Saban with McElwain is borderline absurd. I mean, to credit Saban with McDaniels is hilarious, since he was a GA for one year at MSU.

Consistency please.

 

[The Franchise]

Someone mentioned Saban's assistants as performing well after leaving his staff. I don't think that is true. I don't think his tree is impressive at all.

I think its pretty good actually. Nick Saban's coaching tree has varying levels of success

Add in Smart recently to UGA and we will see how he does.

Wait a minute, how is it decided which coach comes from which tree? Smart started under Richt, and that article claims McIlwein under saban, but that is a stretch, in my book.

Actually he was under Saban at LSU back in 04.

Coaching career (HC unless noted)
1999 Georgia (AA)
2000 Valdosta State (DB)
2001 Valdosta State (DC)
2002–2003 Florida State (GA)
2004 LSU (DB)
2005 Georgia (RB)
2006 Miami Dolphins (S)
2007 Alabama (AHC/DB)
2008–2016 Alabama (DC)
2016–present Georgia

Someone mentioned Saban's assistants as performing well after leaving his staff. I don't think that is true. I don't think his tree is impressive at all.

so you don't think mark dantonio, Jim mcelwain, jimbo fisher, jason Garrett, and josh McDaniels is impressive..

Again, when is it decided who's tree a coach comes from? You randomly pick some spot a dude was at to decide? To credit Saban with McElwain is borderline absurd. I mean, to credit Saban with McDaniels is hilarious, since he was a GA for one year at MSU.

Consistency please.

The whole "tree" thing is retarded when it gets too attenuated. You can't really use guys as "tree" members unless they spent a pretty decent amount of time under a coach and generally learned and then applied that coach's principles after he left.

I don't even consider Dantonio a Saban tree guy. Dantonio is more of a Tressell disciple. That's where he learned the game.