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Do you think Florida Coaches are properly Developing Recruits?

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Coach Macho said:
Bro...
Nevermind. LOL

I'm wasting my time cause I know for a fact that the amount of interaction you have with the coaching world is absolutely miniscule compared to mine. You're simply speaking through a South Florida bias.

I'm South Florida to the core, but I'm also objective. I've said numerous times on here that we have the best football players in the world, but our coaching is subpar at best. It's just the nature of the game. Why would you expect Elite coaching when you're paying guys $1,800 for a whole season?

Any coach in South Florida worth their salt either leaves or has a cozy private school position.
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ROFL, so that's your argument, because outta town coaches get paid way more money so that makes them better, ROFL, ok, keep going, tell us more, LoL. Come on man, stop doing this to yourself, by trying to belittle South Florida coaches, you're belittling yourself!

This game doesnt agree with you:

 
Calvin said:
ROFL, so that's your argument, because outta town coaches get paid way more money so that makes them better, ROFL, ok, keep going, tell us more, LoL. Come on man, stop doing this to yourself, by trying to belittle South Florida coaches, you're belittling yourself!

This game doesnt agree with you:

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LOL. Are you insinuating that that MNW team didn't have buttloads more talent in that game?

And anybody can cherry pick games to support their argument. The MNW team that won states a couple years ago went to Utah (or Nevada can't remember) and got EMBARRASSED on national television by a few FCS level kids because they wouldn't get out of Cover-1.


Never once did I say out-of-state coaches are better BECAUSE THEY GET PAID MORE.
You're putting words in my mouth.

Like I said, you don't know WTF you're talking about. Your exposure to the coaching world is limited and you're likely just a South Florida homer.



Our kids are better.
Our coaching is not.
 
Coach Macho said:
A lot of head coaches in TX and GA get paid over 90k.
Coordinators usually get a 12k+ stipend while position coaches receive 10k.
At least that's what I hear from my buddies who coach up there.

Down here a head coach gets a 5k stipend (roughly) while a few lucky assistants receive around 2k.
Many of the coaches are doing it for free.
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My cousin was the Head of a small private school in Fort Worth, Tx. The Head football coach got paid 90k, the girls basketball coach was getting paid 35k!
 
Coach Macho said:
LOL. Are you insinuating that that MNW team didn't have buttloads more talent in that game?

And anybody can cherry pick games to support their argument. The MNW team that won states a couple years ago went to Utah (or Nevada can't remember) and got EMBARRASSED on national television by a few FCS level kids because they wouldn't get out of Cover-1.


Never once did I say out-of-state coaches are better BECAUSE THEY GET PAID MORE.
You're putting words in my mouth.

Like I said, you don't know WTF you're talking about. Your exposure to the coaching world is limited and you're likely just a South Florida homer.



Our kids are better.
Our coaching is not.
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These are your exact words sir:

"Why would you expect Elite coaching when you're paying guys $1,800 for a whole season?"
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You were the one who chose to reference money and coaching in the same sentence, not me. Just because the logic doesnt make NO SENSE at all, now you trying to moonwalk. Unlike most states, most of the guys who coach down here played football before, so to try an insinuate that they are only being successful because of the caliber of athlete's we have down here is asanine. And you just proved it with your own point and words by trying to discredit what i said, so now you referencing that the West went to Utah and according to you:

"got EMBARRASSED on national television by a few FCS level kids because they wouldn't get out of Cover-1."

But i thought those coaches still only won because we had the superior athlete's, so to make sure im clear about your point, so we had the better athlete's but still lost the game in Utah, because they needed coaching help, but this team with the same coaches ended up winning the state championship because they had the superior athlete's. My question to you, which one is it, cause you're starting to sound like confuscious!
 
Calvin said:
These are your exact words sir:

"Why would you expect Elite coaching when you're paying guys $1,800 for a whole season?"
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You were the one who chose to reference money and coaching in the same sentence, not me. Just because the logic doesnt make NO SENSE at all, now you trying to moonwalk. Unlike most states, most of the guys who coach down here played football before, so to try an insinuate that they are only being successful because of the caliber of athlete's we have down here is asanine. And you just proved it with your own point and words by trying to discredit what i said, so now you referencing that the West went to Utah and according to you:

"got EMBARRASSED on national television by a few FCS level kids because they wouldn't get out of Cover-1."

But i thought those coaches still only won because we had the superior athlete's, so to make sure im clear about your point, so we had the better athlete's but still lost the game in Utah, because they needed coaching help, but this team with the same coaches ended up winning the state championship because they had the superior athlete's. My question to you, which one is it, cause you're starting to sound like confuscious!
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Are you slow?
When they compete for the state championship they're playing against other Florida teams!
 
Coach Macho said:
Are you slow?
When they compete for the state championship they're playing against other Florida teams!
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Most certainly your response is, did you not know that "state champions" is all you needed to explain your "captain obvious" response! But based on your logic that Florida teams only win because we have superior talent, how is a state champion ever crowned here, those games are probably still in forever overtime! But if we go by your earlier "analytic's", the reason Northwestern won that state championship, had to be because the team they played, their coaches must be getting paid less than(under $1800) the West coaches. My bad, now i see why you asked if i was slow.

Let's all take time out to reflect and Honor this guys words, Wisdom according to coach macho:

"I've said numerous times on here that we have the best football players in the world, but our coaching is subpar at best. It's just the nature of the game. Why would you expect Elite coaching when you're paying guys $1,800 for a whole season?"
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Wee should all apologize now, anybody that criticized or berated patrick nix during his tenure here, from this knowledge just bestowed upon us, we now have the keys to be successful, all we have to do now is get coach nix back in here, make him one of the top 3 highest paid oc's, and people will think joe brady was hired here, damyum, who knew it was that simple!
 
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A lot of athletes are going away from public schools and going towards private and boarding schools. If you look at the rankings for high school football this past season, most of the teams are private schools. Mater Dei, St John Bosco, Bishop Gormon, St Thomas, st Francis Academy, Img, St. John’s and our lady of good council are dominating high school football. This is the same way for other sports. Kids are transferring to these private schools so they can been developed. A lot of star athletes don’t get developed at public schools. Public school coaches are just people who are looking for a little extra money outside their teaching career
 
I won't speak on coaching but I see weight training lacking in Florida. When I was in HS I weighed 175lb and benched 335lb, these guys are going 3 years into a college weight program and just hitting the same weights. DJ just posted a video of him just getting up 315 without a full rep.
 
The question is too nuanced for most of the board to understand and answer.

Florida coaching sucks AND they get paid less. If Florida coaches were paid more there wouldn't be much of a change in coaching ability. The answer to bad play on the field is too often to recruit better players. Guys ******** up cover 1? Yell louder. QB throws a pick? Yell at him. Miss a FG? Call him a *****. If that doesn't work, claim the officials are ******** you. Your kid false started? Tell the official to let the boys play. So much trash coaching all over in Florida.
 
Madabs said:
I won't speak on coaching but I see weight training lacking in Florida. When I was in HS I weighed 175lb and benched 335lb, these guys are going 3 years into a college weight program and just hitting the same weights. DJ just posted a video of him just getting up 315 without a full rep.
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You act like benching 335 at 175lbs is normal.
 
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