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Do you think Florida Coaches are properly Developing Recruits?

There's some good coaching scattered throughout South Florida here and there but generally it's garbage. I don't think the individual coaching is as bad as the coordinating though.

A lot of them are stuck on little league **** and unfortunately don't seem to have the desire to learn anything else other than Cover-1 and a vertical passing game.

I just worked a Glazier clinic in Orlando this past weekend and I was THE ONLY SOUTH FLORIDA COACH in the entire building.
I'll be at the huge Glazier in Atlanta this weekend. (I don't expect any South Florida guys to be there)
And later this month the Nike Clinic is in Orlando. Now, they'll be SOME South FLA guys there, but only because there's big names speaking. (Nike is a terrible clinic by the way, all flash, no substance)

You just seldom see South FLA guys out on the trail, working to get better, learning new schemes, etc. Maybe it's arrogance, maybe it's cause they had a little success due to talent, so they can't be told ****. I dunno. I mean, I'll admit I'm confident about my coaching ability, but at the same time I love to pick the brains of other coaches. You can never know enough. But a lot of these guys down here completely shut down outside input. It takes a certain amount of humility to sit down, STFU and see if someone has some good information you can benefit from.
It's a concept that seems to go right over the head of most South FLA coaches.

I will say this though...
For whatever reason, many of our kids go to college and contribute early.
There's something to be said for that.
 
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OriginalGatorHater said:
I am a dumbass for not studying every post you have ever made in your life? LMAO! This is very surprising considering how biased you are towards football and Florida in general. I was expecting you to give us a bunch of unsubstatiated statements about how Bill Bellichek could never hope to be half the coach of Belen Jesuits assisstant coach.
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Man STFU.
 
Coach Macho said:
A lot of head coaches in TX and GA get paid over 90k.
Coordinators usually get a 12k+ stipend while position coaches receive 10k.
At least that's what I hear from my buddies who coach up there.

Down here a head coach gets a 5k stipend (roughly) while a few lucky assistants receive around 2k.
Many of the coaches are doing it for free.
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****, Mach. Time to dip to Texas and get paid....
 
BJ305 said:
Lol the best players from every top program in the nation are usually from Florida , urban Meyer had one the best College QB in history Tebow on his squad
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kryptonite said:
$40k in Miami? That's...wow. We bang on about how important education is, but that tells you what we really think.
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Yet we pay about $5500 in instruction spending per student. We pay $8920 per student overall.

National averages:
Private school: $10,413
Public school: $11,392

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CaneSince4Ever said:
You need to watch the TV show Friday Night Tykes if you think SoFla youth coaches are terrible. There were some glimpses of good coaching on there, but for the most part, the coaches were horrible, which is par for the course for the rest of the country.
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I’ll rephrase, south Florida coaches in my area (broward county) and through my experiences for the most part are not good. They don’t teach the game at a fundamental level early on at youth level. Now this only my experience. I played for 2 different youth organizations in Deerfield beach. My last year for a organizations called the Deerfield raiders I Made made the all star team with 2 other teammates. At this time we they switch from the orange bowl league to the YFL or whatever it was called. The difference was instead of playing teams in the orange bowl league from pompano, lakes, delray rocks and laurderdale..we played teams from Weston , boca, parkland and springs..now if you from south Florida you know that basically means you went from playing better athletes to lesser athletes lol. Although our team had better athletes those other teams were properly coached ..long story short me and my teammates show up at this all star game practice too find out our coaches hadn’t been teaching us **** about the game. The coaches from the other teams were calling out personnel grouping and formations other players were getting to their spots, calling out rout tree combos, blocking combos etc etc..we were just 3 black kids looking lost asf...I tell this story to say this, in south Florida, in the black community led organizations (I can only speak on broward) the game isn’t taught at a fundamental level at all
 
CaneSince4Ever said:
You need to watch the TV show Friday Night Tykes if you think SoFla youth coaches are terrible. There were some glimpses of good coaching on there, but for the most part, the coaches were horrible, which is par for the course for the rest of the country.
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I dont need to watch none of that ****, its asanine to try and criticize the coaching down here and just say the only reason we winning is because we have "elite talent". Somebody has to be the one to orchestrate the talent. I dont care who we play, if we playing Miami football, no state can beat us. The problem with alot of these colleges is the copy cat system of doing. things, they basically making everybody play the same way, not to many individual standouts, imagine somebody trying to teach deion sanders how to play db the way they teach it these days, had he played that way, he still would've been good, but he never would've been "primetime" the way we know em.

The cookie cutter techniques being taught is the problem, so when they get to alot of these moron coaches, they're judging our players off of being taught the Miami winning way. UM didnt become dominant mimicking other ****'s, imagine how many moron coaches would've said the same thing about ed reed or SEAN TAYLOR! Our style of play is like no other, when it comes to football in Miami, we are the P.h.d.'s when it comes to playing on that field, hands down. First off, we have the highest I.Q. of any state for playing winning football, so those who want to try and act like it just all physical are being disrespectful out the gate.

To many people just believe and suck up anything somebody tells them on t.v. the main problem is these mediocre and cookie cutter systems people run nowadays, if you bottle up Miami players, we'll be mediocre, but you turn us lose and let us play the way we know football, and the championships will start coming in again, plain and simple. Its like the nba now, all these teams damyum near look the same, basically the same style of play, but what makes us the heat standout is led by president riley passed on to coach spo is, our emphasis is still on the defensive side of the ball, same with toronto.

Back to football, dont believe the weak *** hype!
 
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Coach Macho said:
A lot of head coaches in TX and GA get paid over 90k.
Coordinators usually get a 12k+ stipend while position coaches receive 10k.
At least that's what I hear from my buddies who coach up there.

Down here a head coach gets a 5k stipend (roughly) while a few lucky assistants receive around 2k.
Many of the coaches are doing it for free.
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So many guys in Florida are PAYING to be coaches. Ain’t that something?
 
305to954 said:
I’ll rephrase, south Florida coaches in my area (broward county) and through my experiences for the most part are not good. They don’t teach the game at a fundamental level early on at youth level. Now this only my experience. I played for 2 different youth organizations in Deerfield beach. My last year for a organizations called the Deerfield raiders I Made made the all star team with 2 other teammates. At this time we they switch from the orange bowl league to the YFL or whatever it was called. The difference was instead of playing teams in the orange bowl league from pompano, lakes, delray rocks and laurderdale..we played teams from Weston , boca, parkland and springs..now if you from south Florida you know that basically means you went from playing better athletes to lesser athletes lol. Although our team had better athletes those other teams were properly coached ..long story short me and my teammates show up at this all star game practice too find out our coaches hadn’t been teaching us **** about the game. The coaches from the other teams were calling out personnel grouping and formations other players were getting to their spots, calling out rout tree combos, blocking combos etc etc..we were just 3 black kids looking lost asf...I tell this story to say this, in south Florida, in the black community led organizations (I can only speak on broward) the game isn’t taught at a fundamental level at all
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When I played youth football back in the 90s, we spent the first 75-90 minutes of a 2 hour practice being drilled like Army recruits in blocking, tackling, and other fundamentals.

I watch the young guys now and coaches gloss over that stuff to scrimmage for most of the time. Needless to say, our high school team has fallen off a cliff.
 
Calvin said:
I dont need to watch none of that ****, its asanine to try and criticize the coaching down here and just say the only reason we winning is because we have "elite talent". Somebody has to be the one to orchestrate the talent. I dont care who we play, if we playing Miami football, no state can beat us. The problem with alot of these colleges is the copy cat system of doing. things, they basically making everybody play the same way, not to many individual standouts, imagine somebody trying to teach deion sanders how to play db the way they teach it these days, had he played that way, he still would've been good, but he never would've been "primetime" the way we know em.

The cookie cutter techniques being taught is the problem, so when they get to alot of these moron coaches, they're judging our players off of being taught the Miami winning way. UM didnt become dominant mimicking other ****'s, imagine how many moron coaches would've said the same thing about ed reed or SEAN TAYLOR! Our style of play is like no other, when it comes to football in Miami, we are the P.h.d.'s when it comes to playing on that field, hands down. First off, we have the highest I.Q. of any state for playing winning football, so those who want to try and act like it just all physical are being disrespectful out the gate.

To many people just believe and suck up anything somebody tells them on t.v. the main problem is these mediocre and cookie cutter systems people run nowadays, if you bottle up Miami players, we'll be mediocre, but you turn us lose and let us play the way we know football, and the championships will start coming in again, plain and simple. Its like the nba now, all these teams damyum near look the same, basically the same style of play, but what makes us the heat standout is led by president riley passed on to coach spo is, our emphasis is still on the defensive side of the ball, same with toronto.

Back to football, dont believe the weak *** hype!
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Nah bro.

When you go to as many clinics as I do...and watch coaches from other states speak and compare them to the "clinics" put on by some of our local guys... the difference is clear as day. I've watched STATE CHAMPIONSHIP South Florida coaches get on stage and basically embarrass themselves, leaving the whole room scratching their heads wondering how THIS guy won a state championship.

I think you're underestimating how much of a talent advantage we have down here compared to other parts of the state (or country).
 
Calvin said:
One of the dumbest threads ever, go and count how many State Championships we been bringing back over the last 20 years, and than count how many players from down here become the best in any league.it sounds stupid for any coach to say that about players from here, especially a college coach, that's what college is for, to train amateur athletes, do college coaches somehow now are expecting players to come to tgem ready made. WTF is wrong with oscar cryer, that lying weasel needs to STFU, and if he's going to be doing any talking, can explain yo us why his qb's dont pan out in the nfl.
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Obviously you clearly don't understand what he is saying. He's talking about when the Recruits first get to college. He's saying a lot of the Florida kids come in extremely raw and need extra time to catch up technique and fundamental wise.
 
Coach Macho said:
Nah bro.

When you go to as many clinics as I do...and watch coaches from other states speak and compare them to the "clinics" put on by some of our local guys... the difference is clear as day. I've watched STATE CHAMPIONSHIP South Florida coaches get on stage and basically embarrass themselves, leaving the whole room scratching their heads wondering how THIS guy won a state championship.

I think you're underestimating how much of a talent advantage we have down here compared to other parts of the state (or country).
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I think that's what Urban Meyer was getting at. He's not referring to the ST Thomas, Lakelands and American Heritages of the state who have quality Coaching staffs in place. I'm sure he's talking about schools who don't have the funds necessary to bring in quality Coaches.
 
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Coach Macho said:
Nah bro.

When you go to as many clinics as I do...and watch coaches from other states speak and compare them to the "clinics" put on by some of our local guys... the difference is clear as day. I've watched STATE CHAMPIONSHIP South Florida coaches get on stage and basically embarrass themselves, leaving the whole room scratching their heads wondering how THIS guy won a state championship.

I think you're underestimating how much of a talent advantage we have down here compared to other parts of the state (or country).
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The only ones getting embarrassed are these so called wise owls, with all this coach speak that somehow impresses you, but they keep getting their *** kicked by these other coaches they're suppose to know more than!
 
Mackmiller974 said:
Obviously you clearly don't understand what he is saying. He's talking about when the Recruits first get to college. He's saying a lot of the Florida kids come in extremely raw and need extra time to catch up technique and fundamental wise.
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Right, so all the 1st team freshman players around the Country from down here need time to catch up, lol, you guys believe anything, even when the facts are clear!
 
Calvin said:
The only ones getting embarrassed are these so called wise owls, with all this coach speak that somehow impresses you, but they keep getting their *** kicked by these other coaches they're suppose to know more than!
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Bro...
Nevermind. LOL

I'm wasting my time cause I know for a fact that the amount of interaction you have with the coaching world is absolutely miniscule compared to mine. You're simply speaking through a South Florida bias.

I'm South Florida to the core, but I'm also objective. I've said numerous times on here that we have the best football players in the world, but our coaching is subpar at best. It's just the nature of the game. Why would you expect Elite coaching when you're paying guys $1,800 for a whole season?

Any coach in South Florida worth their salt either leaves or has a cozy private school position.
 
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