Diaz is supposedly a top candidate for Miss State job

[Duval904]

For TheRichtShow:

2001 defense compared to 2017

Pass efficiency D:
2001: 1st (rating of 75)
2017: 11th (rating of 109)

Total Defense:
2001: 6th (270 yards per game)
2017: 41st (362 yards per game)

Scoring Defense:
2001: 1st (9 points per game.....NINE!!)
2017: 14th (18 points per game)

Turnovers gained:
2001: 45
2017: 29

Yards per play allowed:
2001: 3.9
2017: 4.2

Defensive TDs:
2001: 7....SEVEN!!!!
2017: 2

In what UNIVERSE is our current defense even remotely as good as the 2001 defense? And 2001 wasn't even the best Defense ever, that was 1991 which was incomprehensibly dominant. I feel sorry for these millennials that never saw a truly great Canes D.

#gameover

 

[TemplarCane]

10th in yards per play.
The one that actually matters

Curious why this is the only one that matters, just b/c it happens to be one of the few stats we are top ten in.

I think they all matter and paint a general picture of a defense that is very good but not elite. I think that's fair to say.

Btw, yards per play is great, but when you are like 81st in the nation on third down all it means is you give up lots of long drives. The good news is we are one of the very best teams in the nation in red zone touchdown defense. And if we didn't have miraculous field goal kicking against us would be a top red zone scoring defense. THAT is a huge stat.

For example, the Patriots are like the bottom of the league in yards/game (and are always poor in this stat), but are top 10 in red zone d and scoring d every year.

I think most of us though miss the days when we basically gave up nothing. A real elite Hurricanes defense.

I miss the days when you never posted here.

You signed up right after the Pitt game and have cried and complained ever since

What a snowflake porst. I just pointed out how we have a good, not elite defense. I can't imagine anyone who ever watched this team play pre Golden/Shannon eras who thinks this is an elite Canes defense. It's not. It's very good, and better than any we have had in over a decade.

Go watch some film on 1986-1994, or 2001-2003. When we get to that level, you would never ever see a freshman QB at Pitt drop 400 yards and 24 points on us. Ever.

Go fvck yourself you pathetic old bvtch.

Uh, how about that 2001 defense. I seem to recall VT dropping 45 points on us in the last game of the year.

And Pitt's QB didn't have 400 yards you ******* ******.

The 2002 defense have up almost 300 yards rushing to FSU, and nearly 400 to West Virginia in consecutive weeks. The issue was complacency and players not playing their assignment. Tennessee opened with 70 yard run on the first or second play the week after WVA. The defense snapped out of 'it', and the Vols finished with less than 220 total yards.

VT scored 45 points but 21 points were set up by a long KO return, a long, near pick-6, and the famous 100-yard pick 6 when the OC called a option pass from Jared Payton to Ken Dorsey, on the VT 1. Up 49-21. WORST PLAY CALL EVER IN THE HISTORY OF MIAMI FOOTBALL.

 

[htownkidd]

Sounds like Jeremy Pruitt is their guy, which is a **** good hire for them.

 

[swampcougar1]

So he has removed himself as a candidate for TN job. TN fans as delusional.as gator fans

 

[KevinCaneFace]

For TheRichtShow:

2001 defense compared to 2017

Pass efficiency D:
2001: 1st (rating of 75)
2017: 11th (rating of 109)

Total Defense:
2001: 6th (270 yards per game)
2017: 41st (362 yards per game)

Scoring Defense:
2001: 1st (9 points per game.....NINE!!)
2017: 14th (18 points per game)

Turnovers gained:
2001: 45
2017: 29

Yards per play allowed:
2001: 3.9
2017: 4.2

Defensive TDs:
2001: 7....SEVEN!!!!
2017: 2

In what UNIVERSE is our current defense even remotely as good as the 2001 defense? And 2001 wasn't even the best Defense ever, that was 1991 which was incomprehensibly dominant. I feel sorry for these millennials that never saw a truly great Canes D.

#gameover

Sure, but how stupid is it to compare stats to the greatest college team of all time. It’s stupid enough to compare stats from 17 years ago. We weren’t facing any spread fast paced offenses back then much less every week.

 

[CanesForever]

For TheRichtShow:

2001 defense compared to 2017

Pass efficiency D:
2001: 1st (rating of 75)
2017: 11th (rating of 109)

Total Defense:
2001: 6th (270 yards per game)
2017: 41st (362 yards per game)

Scoring Defense:
2001: 1st (9 points per game.....NINE!!)
2017: 14th (18 points per game)

Turnovers gained:
2001: 45
2017: 29

Yards per play allowed:
2001: 3.9
2017: 4.2

Defensive TDs:
2001: 7....SEVEN!!!!
2017: 2

In what UNIVERSE is our current defense even remotely as good as the 2001 defense? And 2001 wasn't even the best Defense ever, that was 1991 which was incomprehensibly dominant. I feel sorry for these millennials that never saw a truly great Canes D.

#gameover

Sure, but how stupid is it to compare stats to the greatest college team of all time. It’s stupid enough to compare stats from 17 years ago. We weren’t facing any spread fast paced offenses back then much less every week.

Bc the point was made that while this current defense is good, it is still not up to our standard here.

 

[407cane]

For TheRichtShow:

2001 defense compared to 2017

Pass efficiency D:
2001: 1st (rating of 75)
2017: 11th (rating of 109)

Total Defense:
2001: 6th (270 yards per game)
2017: 41st (362 yards per game)

Scoring Defense:
2001: 1st (9 points per game.....NINE!!)
2017: 14th (18 points per game)

Turnovers gained:
2001: 45
2017: 29

Yards per play allowed:
2001: 3.9
2017: 4.2

Defensive TDs:
2001: 7....SEVEN!!!!
2017: 2

In what UNIVERSE is our current defense even remotely as good as the 2001 defense? And 2001 wasn't even the best Defense ever, that was 1991 which was incomprehensibly dominant. I feel sorry for these millennials that never saw a truly great Canes D.

#gameover

Sure, but how stupid is it to compare stats to the greatest college team of all time. It’s stupid enough to compare stats from 17 years ago. We weren’t facing any spread fast paced offenses back then much less every week.

Bc the point was made that while this current defense is good, it is still not up to our standard here.

god these fans are so moronic

 

[CanesForever]

For TheRichtShow:

2001 defense compared to 2017

Pass efficiency D:
2001: 1st (rating of 75)
2017: 11th (rating of 109)

Total Defense:
2001: 6th (270 yards per game)
2017: 41st (362 yards per game)

Scoring Defense:
2001: 1st (9 points per game.....NINE!!)
2017: 14th (18 points per game)

Turnovers gained:
2001: 45
2017: 29

Yards per play allowed:
2001: 3.9
2017: 4.2

Defensive TDs:
2001: 7....SEVEN!!!!
2017: 2

In what UNIVERSE is our current defense even remotely as good as the 2001 defense? And 2001 wasn't even the best Defense ever, that was 1991 which was incomprehensibly dominant. I feel sorry for these millennials that never saw a truly great Canes D.

#gameover

Sure, but how stupid is it to compare stats to the greatest college team of all time. It’s stupid enough to compare stats from 17 years ago. We weren’t facing any spread fast paced offenses back then much less every week.

Bc the point was made that while this current defense is good, it is still not up to our standard here.

god these fans are so moronic

So in your mind we are an elite defense? Lmfao, have you watched this sport prior to 2010?

 

[407cane]

I'd be cool with that. we're 41st in the nation in defense. Miami is supposed to be top 10

10th in yards per play.
The one that actually matters

Curious why this is the only one that matters, just b/c it happens to be one of the few stats we are top ten in.

I think they all matter and paint a general picture of a defense that is very good but not elite. I think that's fair to say.

Btw, yards per play is great, but when you are like 81st in the nation on third down all it means is you give up lots of long drives. The good news is we are one of the very best teams in the nation in red zone touchdown defense. And if we didn't have miraculous field goal kicking against us would be a top red zone scoring defense. THAT is a huge stat.

For example, the Patriots are like the bottom of the league in yards/game (and are always poor in this stat), but are top 10 in red zone d and scoring d every year.

I think most of us though miss the days when we basically gave up nothing. A real elite Hurricanes defense.

I miss the days when you never posted here.

You signed up right after the Pitt game and have cried and complained ever since

yeah he's a complete troll

we are top 20 in almost everything except opponent third down percentage and total yardage

#1 in the THREE MOST IMPORTANT areas, TFL, Sacks, and takeaways

Top 10 in yards per play


people set the 2001 as a standard because they are morons. That was the most talented team to ever play college football, going into this season the entire board here on CIS thought we had no hope because we literally had no secondary. We were relying on Dean and delaney to come back and hold it down.

now we're top 15 in defensive passing efficiency (with that same secondary) and people are losing their *****


diaz is much of the reason for our success and this board would be a **** of a lot better without CanesForever and Duval dvouchebags running around b*tching and moaning

 

[407cane]

#gameover

Sure, but how stupid is it to compare stats to the greatest college team of all time. It’s stupid enough to compare stats from 17 years ago. We weren’t facing any spread fast paced offenses back then much less every week.

Bc the point was made that while this current defense is good, it is still not up to our standard here.

god these fans are so moronic

So in your mind we are an elite defense? Lmfao, have you watched this sport prior to 2010?

have you been on this board prior to November?

we are elite in 4 categories that matter, compared to two years ago when we got 58 dropped on us

who do you want us to be like with the talent we have now?

ohio state giving up 55 to iowa?
UGA giving up 40 to auburn?

VT has a defense that fits your description, maybe we should be like them.. oh wait didn't we dominate them?

 

[CanesForever]

You just decided the stats you like are magically the most important.

We arent top twenty in rush D, total D, and are solidy in the teens in scoring d. Pass efficiency d, and ypp.

You realize we can be appreciative of the job Diaz has done while still being honest that we need to be better, right?

 

[CanesForever]

407, real talk.....when did you become a fan of this team?

Miami has one of the most experienced talented front sevens in the game, with the best DL coach in the sport.

We get a lot of sacks and tfl and ints, but WITH THAT comes lots of third downs given up, lots of yardage against, and a very good but not elite 18 points per game given up. You dont get points for sacks, you know that right?

 

[407cane]

You just decided the stats you like are magically the most important.

We arent top twenty in rush D, total D, and are solidy in the teens in scoring d. Pass efficiency d, and ypp.

You realize we can be appreciative of the job Diaz has done while still being honest that we need to be better, right?

we're 14th in scoring defense. lmao, but yeah okay solidly in the teens. where were we a few years ago in scoring defense? and take away the toledo game after irma or even 1 single half against UVA and where are we?


i made a whole F'n thread about every statistical category of any importance whatsoever, i do it before every game.

those are the ones that matter most. are we elite? no, but we are performing as good as defenses with much more talent than us.


it's a moot point, too much stupidity i'll just have to block you


I bet you were the type that loved No D's bend don't break mentality

 

[CanesForever]

You just decided the stats you like are magically the most important.

We arent top twenty in rush D, total D, and are solidy in the teens in scoring d. Pass efficiency d, and ypp.

You realize we can be appreciative of the job Diaz has done while still being honest that we need to be better, right?

we're 14th in scoring defense. lmao, but yeah okay solidly in the teens. where were we a few years ago in scoring defense? and take away the toledo game after irma or even 1 single half against UVA and where are we?


i made a whole F'n thread about every statistical category of any importance whatsoever, i do it before every game.

those are the ones that matter most. are we elite? no, but we are performing as good as defenses with much more talent than us.


it's a moot point, too much stupidity i'll just have to block you


I bet you were the type that loved No D's bend don't break mentality

Yes 14th in the nation is solidly IN THE TEENS. It's very good.

Of the possible playoff teams, however, we trail Wisky, Bama, Clemson, UGA, Auburn and TCU in that category.

Again, nobody is denying this is a wonderful turnaround compared to when we had one of the worst coachings staffs in the history of college football.

What some of us are calmy saying is that while the defense has been great, as Hurricanes fans who have seen elite defense, this current defense is not at that level.

Or is your point that this current defense is among our all time best defenses?

 

[407cane]

You just decided the stats you like are magically the most important.

We arent top twenty in rush D, total D, and are solidy in the teens in scoring d. Pass efficiency d, and ypp.

You realize we can be appreciative of the job Diaz has done while still being honest that we need to be better, right?

we're 14th in scoring defense. lmao, but yeah okay solidly in the teens. where were we a few years ago in scoring defense? and take away the toledo game after irma or even 1 single half against UVA and where are we?


i made a whole F'n thread about every statistical category of any importance whatsoever, i do it before every game.

those are the ones that matter most. are we elite? no, but we are performing as good as defenses with much more talent than us.


it's a moot point, too much stupidity i'll just have to block you


I bet you were the type that loved No D's bend don't break mentality

Yes 14th in the nation is solidly IN THE TEENS. It's very good.

Of the possible playoff teams, however, we trail Wisky, Bama, Clemson, UGA, Auburn and TCU in that category.

Again, nobody is denying this is a wonderful turnaround compared to when we had one of the worst coachings staffs in the history of college football.

What some of us are calmy saying is that while the defense has been great, as Hurricanes fans who have seen elite defense, this current defense is not at that level.

Or is your point that this current defense is among our all time best defenses?

when did all time great defense even come into the argument?

this all started because idiots are saying, great let diaz go because we're 41st in total Defense

which is the stupidest **** i've ever heard.

ignoring the last 15 years and only comparing our defense (in year two with golden players and no secondary coming into this year) to the defenses of 2001 is beyond stupid.


if diaz can improve again next year and take us to the next tier, the dude needs a major raise and we need to lock him up, he's been the driving force of our success with how many times our defense has bailed out our offense in games

 

[CanesForever]

And I would say that if the choice is to let Diaz go to MSU or make him HC in waiting with a buyout, I let him walk. Richt and his entire staff turned this around in year 2. Thats the sign of a FANTASTIC coaching job. Diaz was a big part of that. But as long as the overall structure, S and C, and recruiting are in place I don't think people should freak out about the loss of Diaz.

 

[StoneWallLoungeCane]

This ******* weirdo registered ANOTHER screen name to argue about defensive stats?
[MENTION=2193]IndayArtHauz[/MENTION]

 

[BigDikCane]

And I would say that if the choice is to let Diaz go to MSU or make him HC in waiting with a buyout, I let him walk. Richt and his entire staff turned this around in year 2. Thats the sign of a FANTASTIC coaching job. Diaz was a big part of that. But as long as the overall structure, S and C, and recruiting are in place I don't think people should freak out about the loss of Diaz.

You must be in his family... Miami will keep Diaz and hopefully Miss st hires Randy Shannon... What, don't you want a black man making that type of money?

 

[IndayArtHauz]

This ****ing weirdo registered ANOTHER screen name to argue about defensive stats?
[MENTION=2193]IndayArtHauz[/MENTION]

Letting him look silly for a bit is good for the soul.

 

[Gi0logy]

sounds like it'll be Jeremy Pruitt. Manny is ours for at least another year.