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Depth is the Issue 30+ players lost from 2010-14

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904Cane

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I took the opportunity to take a look at just how many athletes are no longer in the program (for good reason) since 2010 that's over 30 players that were removed from roster or never made it into Miami and I know I am missing some. This is why its not an excuse that we dont have depth it's true. Out to 22-25 can play with anyone in the country but what about the next 22-25 are they all true freshman ?? Here's why it's difficult to beat an FSU or any other team with depth.

2010 Depending on if they red-shirted at least 1/2 would be Seniors this year
Tavadis Glenn ??
Darion Hall
Kevin Nelson
Keion Payne
David Perry
Andrew Tallman
Travis Williams
Storm Johnson
Jermain Barton
Jeffrey Brown
Jeremy Davis

2011 Juniors

Eddie Johnson LB a starter
Thomas Finnie DB a starter
Jalen Grimble DL transfer
Antonio Kinard never made it
Gionni Paul LB a key contributor as a Freshman
Ricardo Williams transfer


2012

QB Thompson hurt baseball

WR Lockhart transfer
Carter Jontav. transfer

RB Dillard transfer

LB Blue Kicked off team
Terry kicked off team
Witt concussion never played


DL Briscoe
Ivery

DB Hope
Vernon Davis
Nate Dortch

Athlete Angelo Jean Louis
2013

Devant Bond LB
Muhammed Susp.

Athlete Locksley never made it in

Figueroa - projected starter
 
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some truth to this!!! Still would have like to see something different in the playcalling in the loses. We, to include the TV announcers for each game we lost, were calling for something different in the middle of the second half.
 
305umking said:
Recruit better!.....Next excuse!
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Recruit better there were some absolute studs in this group that came to the school got in trouble and were kicked out of school. STUDS.. So I guess Golden made Eddie Johnson, Figs get in trouble. He made Finnie steal I could go on and on and on.

That's the coaching staffs fault to..
 
FSU had a bunch of true FR kicking our ***. Lane cook, Rudolph and the guy who was playing center then left tackle. This is a coaching problem. Recruiting the wrong players
 
You can say that but again we dropped a TD( Berrios in second half) and fumbled (Dobard) on what were huge pivotal plays..
 
The guy who played Center was a Senior and there best OL. Lane didnt do a whole lot, Rudolph was okay Cook is special.

So of our young guys whose the wrong players.. Yearby, Kaaya ? Matthew Thomas? Burns ? Who?
 
904Cane said:
305umking said:
Recruit better!.....Next excuse!
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Recruit better there were some absolute studs in this group that came to the school got in trouble and were kicked out of school. STUDS.. So I guess Golden made Eddie Johnson, Figs get in trouble. He made Finnie steal I could go on and on and on.

That's the coaching staffs fault to..
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Speaking to teachers, coaches, classmates, etc, and feeling out his character and work ethic are part of recruiting, yeah.

Attrition is on the coach. Your gigantic list of misses, and the mass exodus of players, highlight a very negative part of Golden's time here.

Backfired.
 
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supacane said:
FSU had a bunch of true FR kicking our ***. Lane cook, Rudolph and the guy who was playing center then left tackle. This is a coaching problem. Recruiting the wrong players
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And Golden wanted/ almost got these guys, what's your point? We did get Duke, Yearby, Coley, Howard, Thomas, etc. you're not going to get them all no matter what...especially when guys can rape, steal, hit and run, etc. up there and never get in trouble!
 
drewm3i said:
supacane said:
FSU had a bunch of true FR kicking our ***. Lane cook, Rudolph and the guy who was playing center then left tackle. This is a coaching problem. Recruiting the wrong players
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And Golden wanted/ almost got these guys, what's your point? We did get Duke, Yearby, Coley, Howard, Thomas, etc. you're not going to get them all no matter what...especially when guys can rape, steal, hit and run, etc. up there and never get in trouble!
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Two points in one. 1 FSU is winning just fine with bunch of FR. 2 the players leaving the program falls right back on Golden. End of
 
Lol .that's funny FSU is winning with the best QB in the country they are playing three Freshman sparingly we are playing way more and the most important position QB.

Players leaving program for getting in trouble falls on the character of the player. There's only so many checks and balances you make as a Coach. Lets not forget how hard it is to sell a program that cant go to a post- season so we have to take some chances on some kids.
 
FSU had one fumble and dropped one TD They are the #2 team in America you cant make same mistakes they make and beat them.
 
Fake fans is why I rarely post here anymore. U blame coaches for drops of players. No one on there side blames Jimbo for Lane missing TD but we blame coaches..

SHi we missed two FGs and dropped two TDs that's 20 points right there. SMH
 
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Were are not losing this year because of depth, we are getting outcoached!!! 3rd and 2 and we have 3 down linemen and everyone else 5 yards off the line!!! This is bad news bears type of play calling. It seems to be getting better, but that second half last night hurts...**** it hurts big time.
 
904Cane said:
Lol .that's funny FSU is winning with the best QB in the country they are playing three Freshman sparingly we are playing way more and the most important position QB.

Players leaving program for getting in trouble falls on the character of the player. There's only so many checks and balances you make as a Coach. Lets not forget how hard it is to sell a program that cant go to a post- season so we have to take some chances on some kids.
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Fisher recruited the kid. If he's the best qb in the nation then Golden needs to take notes and recruit better.
 
supacane said:
drewm3i said:
supacane said:
FSU had a bunch of true FR kicking our ***. Lane cook, Rudolph and the guy who was playing center then left tackle. This is a coaching problem. Recruiting the wrong players
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And Golden wanted/ almost got these guys, what's your point? We did get Duke, Yearby, Coley, Howard, Thomas, etc. you're not going to get them all no matter what...especially when guys can rape, steal, hit and run, etc. up there and never get in trouble!
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Two points in one. 1 FSU is winning just fine with bunch of FR. 2 the players leaving the program falls right back on Golden. End of
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No, FSU is winning b/c of their rapist QB who would've been kicked out of here after last year. Players leaving the program is on the players...Figueroa is from a good family, yet what he did would only be defendable at FSU. EJ got multiple chances, but did and continues to waste his talent. Same with Kevin Olsen (who's brother was a great Cane). Same with Gionni Paul. Who would ever guess Olsen and Figueroa would make such poor choices with so much on the line?
 
Please share how any of those lost kids impact Golden's decision to become ultra conservative when having FSU on the ropes
 
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