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What a joke. Don’t see how a rogue judge can make such a ruling. Was he paid off by someone? Didn’t these players sign an NFL contract? Now they’re whining they want back in on their sweet little college deal?? Making the jump back would seem unwise due to the NCAA lawsuit(s) and not knowing exactly how this is going to play out in the courts (eventually).
 
the storm said:
What a joke. Don’t see how a rogue judge can make such a ruling. Was he paid off by someone? Didn’t these players sign an NFL contract? Now they’re whining they want back in on their sweet little college deal?? Making the jump back would seem unwise due to the NCAA lawsuit(s) and not knowing exactly how this is going to play out in the courts (eventually).
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These players weren't given the same chances as everyone else at the time. The NCAA just had to grandfather in this last class and it wouldn't be a issue but they didn't and they did this new 5 for 5 rule late hoping it would be to late for kids to get it together. They were wrong again. Shocker.
 
GrizzFarmer said:
I have question for my law guys.. when senate reconvenes in September could they effectively overturn any of these TROs by passing some version of the protect college sports act?
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Unlikely, as the players would already be enrolled and playing in the 2026 football season. And asssuming any of these guys get NIL deals, take a look at the last bullet point.


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HeHappensToKnow said:
And the reason that is happening because they treated kids like employees for decades without paying for their labor and everyone else reaped the rewards. Reckoning time, a-holes.
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Exactly.

For all the "it's out of control, it's ruining the game" arguments, I would ask...why in the **** were you cheering and supporting THE OLD SYSTEM? People who complain TODAY seemed to like the system of YESTERDAY. And maybe that's the problem, it was always unsustainable, it was always going to collapse, but everyone just stood around with pom-poms doing nothing to create a better and fairer system.



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DWade3 said:
Wes, a bigger TE, and maybe Pyburn and we are absolutely cooking.

I’m against this type of thing in general but other teams are adding veteran guys (like IU). Need to due our diligence here and I know Mario will.
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Wait, you're saying that we shouldn't turn our backs on 5th year players who can help us...just so that we could make some fans happy who keep complaining that the court cases are ruining the sport?

OK, you've convinced me.
 
AtlAtty said:
Foe those who are accurately pointing out that playing a minimum 12 games season, and possibly 16-17 requires tremendous depth, I have one sincere question. How in the world do NFL teams play that many games with just 45 plus 8 or so on the practice squad? Even with signing guys off the street to fill during an emergency, NFL rosters are nowhere close to the size of CFB rosters.

I ask sincerely. I’m much more of a basketball guy and CFB and NBA rosters are almost identical in size. Why do college football teams need so many more players than their professional counterparts to play a similar (usually fewer) number of games?

This has nothing to do with Pyburn or anyone on the list we’ve been discussing. It is just a general question.
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Couple of thoughts.

First, the size/strength differential between 17-18 year old college football players and senior college football players is pretty wide. There are some college football players who absolutely should not be put on the field as freshmen. When you get to the pro level, I think that gap narrows. Even undrafted NFL players are getting into games (mostly pre-season) and are not absolute liabilities. ****, UDFA Pyburn just got 2 sacks. And also when you get to the NFL, the size/strength differentials between rookies and 10-year vets is also narrower, so maybe fewer injuries?

Second, I think college football (some of it due to the old Initial Counter and Counter scholarship rules) tend to carry non-contributing players for longer. I don't think anyone ever said "hey, we might NEED that 85th player on Saturday", but I coaches tended to carry guys on the roster thinking that they might contribute next year or the year after.

Third, once you get to the pro levels, you have "culled the herd" so to speak, and you have the best of the best. Also, you have an even higher level of strength/conditioning/nutrition and a team of doctors to deal with every form of injury. So whatever is happening in the NFL is keeping guys closer to the levels of readiness and health that do not necessitate a larger roster. You and I are old enough to remember the old days, when NFL rosters were even larger, and somewhere along the line the cost-benefit analysis of keeping (and PAYING) more guys to "be ready" just didn't make as much sense.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Couple of thoughts.

First, the size/strength differential between 17-18 year old college football players and senior college football players is pretty wide. There are some college football players who absolutely should not be put on the field as freshmen. When you get to the pro level, I think that gap narrows. Even undrafted NFL players are getting into games (mostly pre-season) and are not absolute liabilities. ****, UDFA Pyburn just got 2 sacks. And also when you get to the NFL, the size/strength differentials between rookies and 10-year vets is also narrower, so maybe fewer injuries?

Second, I think college football (some of it due to the old Initial Counter and Counter scholarship rules) tend to carry non-contributing players for longer. I don't think anyone ever said "hey, we might NEED that 85th player on Saturday", but I coaches tended to carry guys on the roster thinking that they might contribute next year or the year after.

Third, once you get to the pro levels, you have "culled the herd" so to speak, and you have the best of the best. Also, you have an even higher level of strength/conditioning/nutrition and a team of doctors to deal with every form of injury. So whatever is happening in the NFL is keeping guys closer to the levels of readiness and health that do not necessitate a larger roster. You and I are old enough to remember the old days, when NFL rosters were even larger, and somewhere along the line the cost-benefit analysis of keeping (and PAYING) more guys to "be ready" just didn't make as much sense.
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I'd certainly take him as a depth piece, and I bet the staff would as well. However, you have to look at the situation from his perspective. Is he really going to give up a practice squad spot to come back to college just to be a role player and log garbage time snaps? Given what he has at the top of the room, I think that is his role here. If he's on board for that, then come right along. However, I'd imagine he'd want to play a lot
 
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