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1mg of Epi said:
The story is that Frenk had his 2 lieutenants look at the athletic department, and they reported back that it was as dysfunctional as Ferman, Lake etc made it sound. He then gave the green light for changes to be made.
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I'd be surprised if Frenk cared this much about the athletic department but we shall see.
 
...Tim doing the bidding of a certain group of people. powerful people pushing to keep Blake but some don't quite understand how firing Manny and keeping Blake is a problem. they lose sight that no reasonable coach will come work for Blake. it's quite the spectacle of the pure stupidity of some people.
 
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OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
So basically two guys with no athletic directorsship experience.

Excellent idea. Let’s just keep hiring ex-canes until we get it right.
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So only ADs know budgets, personnel management, fund raising, and personnel evaluation and recruitment?

And of course let’s just stay away from alumni...just because
 
Salt said:
So only ADs know budgets, personnel management, fund raising, and personnel evaluation and recruitment?

And of course let’s just stay away from alumni...just because
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In most high-level positions, experience counts. Knowing about something is not the same as having experience in successfully leading and managing.

There’s no good rationale that I can think of to use exCanes versus people that have a proven track record in those particular jobs. Businesss don’t operate that way, and neither should our athletic department.

I can see someone making the argument for having as an athletic director, someone who’s had relevant experience, and then maybe, and I just mean maybe, having someone else as Director football operations such as Alonzo.

In my opinion the scenario you mentioned is just plain silly. And I’m not saying this to insult you, I’m just saying it doesn’t make sense from a business standpoint.

If you can give me one example of where this has been done successfully in the college football world, I’m more than willing to listen.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Manny Senior has not had, and will not have, any impact on this. These people don’t understand that. They think a semi-retired lawyer, ex Miami mayor, whose name is associated with a mid-tier law firm (he’s NOT even a partner) and who is in a party ceremonial position, now has some kind of Rasputin type hold on the BOT. It’s all nonsense. Nobody that has football influence on the BOT gives a fūck about Manny Senior.

Strawley, is just some weird whipping woman that this site has. She does nothing and sets no policy and has no influence on the football program.

Blake is 100% in charge, and she’s just an operations person. Since most people here don’t have corporate or organizational experience, they probably don’t even know what an operations person is. Suffice it to say they never set policy. She’s literally a nobody. No offense to her, but she has little or nothing to do with the football program, certainly not about determining coaches or direction or any of that. It’s laughable.

The big issue with the BOT and the new AD is getting them to take that next BIG step, a big step to try to get up with the big boys. They both need to find sources of income (boosters) that we currently don’t have. It’s a big job.
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About a month ago I started listening to that Miami Flo guys podcast on YouTube. And after the Virginia loss he said Manny was fired and it was going to be announced that following Monday. There were rumors all over this blog at that time that it’s done and he’s fired. Then Flo says in a podcast that tuesday that he heard from Lake on Sunday that manny was gonna be on joe rose that Monday so obviously something happened and he wasn’t fired all of sudden. Then Flo said basically that senior stepped in and made a call to his boys In the BOT asking for them to not fire Jr publicly now and please wait till the end of the season so the Diaz name wouldn’t be embarrassed In miami dade. Basically like can you give him some more time even though you’ve already fired him and just announce it at the end of the season. Did you hear any of this Originalccc? Is that legit or just a bunch of rumor nonsense? I know your connected with the program so that’s why I’m asking you?
 
NicKane said:
About a month ago I started listening to that Miami Flo guys podcast on YouTube. And after the Virginia loss he said Manny was fired and it was going to be announced that following Monday. There were rumors all over this blog at that time that it’s done and he’s fired. Then Flo says in a podcast that tuesday that he heard from Lake on Sunday that manny was gonna be on joe rose that Monday so obviously something happened and he wasn’t fired all of sudden. Then Flo said basically that senior stepped in and made a call to his boys In the BOT asking for them to not fire Jr publicly now and please wait till the end of the season so the Diaz name wouldn’t be embarrassed In miami dade. Basically like can you give him some more time even though you’ve already fired him and just announce it at the end of the season. Did you hear any of this Originalccc? Is that legit or just a bunch of rumor nonsense? I know your connected with the program so that’s why I’m asking you?
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I’m not connected to the program like that. But I doubt any of that was legitimately sourced. Maybe I’ll ask Donna Shalala or Frenk the next time I see them.
 
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OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
In most high-level positions, experience counts. Knowing about something is not the same as having experience in successfully leading and managing.

There’s no good rationale that I can think of to use exCanes versus people that have a proven track record in those particular jobs. Businesss don’t operate that way, and neither should our athletic department.

I can see someone making the argument for having as an athletic director, someone who’s had relevant experience, and then maybe, and I just mean maybe, having someone else as Director football operations such as Alonzo.

In my opinion the scenario you mentioned is just plain silly. And I’m not saying this to insult you, I’m just saying it doesn’t make sense from a business standpoint.

If you can give me one example of where this has been done successfully in the college football world, I’m more than willing to listen.
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Both Zo and Gino have degrees in business administration besides experience in pro sports in different capacities. Zo has extensive front office experience. Gino post football runs a successful finance company. He still stays connected with sports through his media work.

To be a successful AD requires experience but the experience need not be necessarily in sports management since skills in organization, personnel management, budgeting, interpersonal skills, leadership, etc can cross over to other management type positions. I think you are hyping a title over the actual skills needed.

Both these guys are capable of handling the work and have sufficient business experience. Whether they will be successful I can’t say. But for you to say that scenario is silly minimizes the actual current state of affairs at the UM athletic dept.
 
Salt said:
Both Zo and Gino have degrees in business administration besides experience in pro sports in different capacities. Zo has extensive front office experience. Gino post football runs a successful finance company. He still stays connected with sports through his media work.

To be a successful AD requires experience but the experience need not be necessarily in sports management since skills in organization, personnel management, budgeting, interpersonal skills, leadership, etc can cross over to other management type positions. I think you are hyping a title over the actual skills needed.

Both these guys are capable of handling the work and have sufficient business experience. Whether they will be successful I can’t say. But for you to say that scenario is silly minimizes the actual current state of affairs at the UM athletic dept.
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Oh sure yeah any idiot can hire somebody in two hours, like Blake did.

I just think the way to go is to hire somebody with relevant experience. I don’t see this Gino/Zo thing working.

All the traits that you mentioned are necessary but additional experience working in the field is absolutely essential in my opinion.

There are industry specific issues that they have to deal with that they have not had to deal with in the past. For example compliance, NCAA, booster/recruitment, just to name a few of several. That’s why experience is always very valuable.

I’ll take someone who’s actually worked as a successful AD or with a successful AD, someone who knows how it’s done.

I’m sorry we’re just not going to agree on this.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Oh sure yeah any idiot can hire somebody in two hours, like Blake did.

I just think the way to go is to hire somebody with relevant experience. I don’t see this Gino/Zo thing working.

All the traits that you mentioned are necessary but additional experience working in the field is absolutely essential in my opinion.

There are industry specific issues that they have to deal with that they have not had to deal with in the past. For example compliance, NCAA, booster/recruitment, just to name a few of several. That’s why experience is always very valuable.

I’ll take someone who’s actually worked as a successful AD or with a successful AD, someone who knows how it’s done.

I’m sorry we’re just not going to agree on this.
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You don't have to apologize. I know we are going to disagree. I am just focusing on your argument against what I have said based on it's own merit. I don't think it is a good one. We can just agree to disagree on that.

I don't know who the potential candidates are (if any) so could not begin to compare their qualifications. Certainly, successful prior AD experience would be ideal. I just don't think it is absolutely necessary given other variables I mentioned. But to simply rule out, or call silly, a possible scenario that I brought up needs a little more than just ridicule. Any idiot could do that as well.
 
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