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Daunte Culpepper???

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Someone like Beck is likely 10-20hrs from his degree. The kids that care any are taking summer classes, online classes, and transferring in high school credits. Look at the ole miss QB who is 19 and working on grad school degrees.

My 18yo freshman already has 16credits before he got to college. My 16yo son will likely have 16-32. Then you have kids that don’t care like my 15yo who will have zero but I’ll push him to take easier community college courses that transfer.
 
I do believe they have to be enrolled in 12 hours each semester to qualify to play. Not saying those have to be difficult classes. There is also an academic progress level they have to have each year and this is where some have a hard time transferring.
90scane said:
Someone like Beck is likely 10-20hrs from his degree. The kids that care any are taking summer classes, online classes, and transferring in high school credits. Look at the ole miss QB who is 19 and working on grad school degrees.

My 18yo freshman already has 16credits before he got to college. My 16yo son will likely have 16-32. Then you have kids that don’t care like my 15yo who will have zero but I’ll push him to take easier community college courses that transfer.
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We have Pancake and Emory who graduated in 2 years. Emory with double major.
 
Fraggle is referring to the old Prop48 rules requiring minimum SAT/ACT and GPA requirements (on core courses) which was on a sliding scale between both requirements. I think this became obsolete in 2015. Certain schools like WVU, Marshall, Kansas State, Auburn and Michigan State made a living out of accepting these kids. NCState under Chuck Amato also took advantage of this.
 
Some of you really have no idea about UM’s academics.

UM does not have “football-friendly majors,” like the huge public schools have. They take the same classes that every other student takes because UM is one of the smallest D1 schools. UF and FSU kids do not interact at all with football players at all in classes or in dorms. I was on the same dorm floor as football, baseball, and basketball players, so I got to know them well, and had lots of football players in many of my classes too. This is very common at UM.

Also, it’s been quite some time since I was in school (I’m a late GenXer), but the classes at UM when I was there were quite rigorous and there was no grade inflation. I double-majored with a minor and was very well-prepared for law school and later, business school too, and of course, every job I’ve ever had. Considering I had football players in many of my classes, I don’t see why they wouldn’t be well-prepared for whatever they chose to do as well.

Our athletes have always have high academic achievements, and have always been one of the top in the nation in this category.

Regarding Daunte Culpepper, he had to go to UCF because his SAT scores were bad. It wasn’t his grades. We had already stopped using the sliding scale anyway due to the Pell Grant scandal, but UF had also stopped recruiting him as well due to how bad his SATs were. So it wasn’t just us.
 
As far as Florida students at least. The ones that are academically in trouble now basically head to some type of online/home school program and then their grades improve rapidly.
 
I was at UCF when Culpepper played. It was generally well known he wasn’t exactly the smartest dude on campus and he drove a brand new Lincoln Navigator despite growing up in poverty.

As for “athlete classes”. There were definitely “friend of the program” professors who would pretty much pass any football player. I had an art class and I shared a storage locker with the starting middle linebacker. He showed up like three days and got a B. If you walked into a gen ed class and saw a bunch of huge dudes, it usually meant you lucked out and signed up for a very easy class. That’s not to say that the athletes were all stupid or anything. Lots of them were legit good students. But the athletic department goes over too make sure these guys stay eligible, even if they never get a degree. You only have to take 12 credit hours a semester as an undergraduate to stay eligible. You don’t need to actually be making progress towards a particular degree.
 
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JHallCanes said:
I’ve actually thought about the grades thing recently and how we never hear about it anymore

And now I’m questioning my own sanity
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I don’t think they recruit morons anymore, so there aren’t any grades issues to deal with.
 
Not sure about his GPA, but he was smart enough to get money from the Dolphins.... Meanwhile Brees was just nominated for the HOF.
 
My buddy was at Georgetown when Iverson was there. Dude literally never stepped foot in class. Maybe 1 the first day. He had 0.0 and 0.1 GPA his 2 years (my buddy knew people in the registrar's office) and they kept him "eligible" there by constantly switching him between programs (school of business, school of communications, etc). Same story for Victor Page, who was nuts.
 
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