Dan Werner to Bama

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

The end is approaching for this bucket of sht:

Alabama Crimson Tide coach Nick Saban rants against media, new NCAA camp rules

He has always had a contentious relationship with the media, but they seem to be pushing his buttons a little more these days. Now he's upset by the proposed NCAA actions prohibiting HS coaches from working at camps. He will decide its no longer worth it soon.

This motherfūcker just can't help himself. He's literally looking at everyone in the eyes and lying to them. Of course they had a ball control offense. They had a cotdam running back as quarterback that couldn't throw the ball to save his life.

All they CAN do is have a ball control offense. How many passing yards did they have in their two playoff games - right at 200 yds. For 2 fūcking games.

Child please. Lying POS.

And fūck the media sitting in that room for being such pussies. This guy lies to them, abuses them, bullies them, and they just sit there and take it. Bunch of fūcking cowards.

 

[Shogungts]

What are you guys talking about, if anything this shows people are willing to work for him - Werner is working as an analyst. Kiffin left b/c he wanted to be a head coach and knew he wouldn't be able to get a HC gig with any big time schools anytime soon. And out of Saban and Kiffin, who has the history of ****ing off others and quitting or getting fired?

Is this dude actually attempting to argue that coaches like working under Sabag?

Whether they like it or not does not matter, it's whether they are willing to do it and so far all indications point to that coaches still are.

Pointing to someone who was an OC at a prominent program coming on as an analyst is showing exactly the opposite of coaches not wanting to go to Alabama. And citing Kiffin as example of a coach that wanted to get away is a bad example for a variety of reasons. What coaches have left Alabama that weren't pushed out or didn't get a better position somewhere else?

None of that means that the coaches like Saban, but it means that for one reason or another - money, exposure, resume builder, wanting to be on a team that makes it to the NC every other year, or whatever - that they are willing to go work for Saban.

It also doesn't mean that Alabama is invincible and that another program(s) won't rise up and take their place, but losing the NC on a last minute drive and having OC's work as analysts for you certainly doesn't prove their imminent demise either.

 

[The Franchise]

What are you guys talking about, if anything this shows people are willing to work for him - Werner is working as an analyst. Kiffin left b/c he wanted to be a head coach and knew he wouldn't be able to get a HC gig with any big time schools anytime soon. And out of Saban and Kiffin, who has the history of ****ing off others and quitting or getting fired?

Is this dude actually attempting to argue that coaches like working under Sabag?

Whether they like it or not does not matter, it's whether they are willing to do it and so far all indications point to that coaches still are.

Pointing to someone who was an OC at a prominent program coming on as an analyst is showing exactly the opposite of coaches not wanting to go to Alabama. And citing Kiffin as example of a coach that wanted to get away is a bad example for a variety of reasons. What coaches have left Alabama that weren't pushed out or didn't get a better position somewhere else?

None of that means that the coaches like Saban, but it means that for one reason or another - money, exposure, resume builder, wanting to be on a team that makes it to the NC every other year, or whatever - that they are willing to go work for Saban.

It also doesn't mean that Alabama is invincible and that another program(s) won't rise up and take their place, but losing the NC on a last minute drive and having OC's work as analysts for you certainly doesn't prove their imminent demise either.

Werner got fired. Alabaga pays "analysts" as much as many programs pay position coaches. Werner wasn't a hot commodity turning down a bunch of P5 coordinator gigs to be a fckboy "analyst" for Sabag. He'd rather go there and make more money than he would as a QB coach at Toledo.

 

[DTP]

Well, they just brought in Pat Nix so apparently Saban can still bring in the big time assistants.

 

[Shogungts]

What are you guys talking about, if anything this shows people are willing to work for him - Werner is working as an analyst. Kiffin left b/c he wanted to be a head coach and knew he wouldn't be able to get a HC gig with any big time schools anytime soon. And out of Saban and Kiffin, who has the history of ****ing off others and quitting or getting fired?

Is this dude actually attempting to argue that coaches like working under Sabag?

Whether they like it or not does not matter, it's whether they are willing to do it and so far all indications point to that coaches still are.

Pointing to someone who was an OC at a prominent program coming on as an analyst is showing exactly the opposite of coaches not wanting to go to Alabama. And citing Kiffin as example of a coach that wanted to get away is a bad example for a variety of reasons. What coaches have left Alabama that weren't pushed out or didn't get a better position somewhere else?

None of that means that the coaches like Saban, but it means that for one reason or another - money, exposure, resume builder, wanting to be on a team that makes it to the NC every other year, or whatever - that they are willing to go work for Saban.

It also doesn't mean that Alabama is invincible and that another program(s) won't rise up and take their place, but losing the NC on a last minute drive and having OC's work as analysts for you certainly doesn't prove their imminent demise either.

Werner got fired. Alabaga pays "analysts" as much as many programs pay position coaches. Werner wasn't a hot commodity turning down a bunch of P5 coordinator gigs to be a fckboy "analyst" for Sabag. He'd rather go there and make more money than he would as a QB coach at Toledo.

I agree with everything you just said, which was my point in the first place... that coaches - for whatever reason ($$$) - are willing to go to Alabama over other options.

 

[Ethnicsands]

There is no news here. Alabama has a ton of money and spends it. Including on available coaches to serve as 'analysts' / back-ups. As long as their talent is elite and saban is there, they'll be in the mix for titles. They have had a top 2 recruiting class for years, includg this past year, so there isn't any reason to expect a drop off any time soon.

 

[canefrank]

I find it interesting how many titles such as "offensive analyst" Bama has, its just a bunch of extra coaches to strategize or help prepare. I understand their resources, but shouldn't we hire at least one or two of these "titles"?

 

[Shogungts]

I find it interesting how many titles such as "offensive analyst" Bama has, its just a bunch of extra coaches to strategize or help prepare. I understand their resources, but shouldn't we hire at least one or two of these "titles"?

We do and did - just not to the extent of Bama:

01-09-2017, 03:10 PM

Peter Ariz

Administrator


Miami set to add David Cooney to support staff

Miami is set to add local coach David Cooney to their football support staff, as he will join the program as an Offensive Quality Control Analyst.

Cooney was previously the offensive coordinator for the 2016 8A state champion Southridge Spartans and was at Coral Gables high school prior to that. Cooney has also made is mark in south Florida football over the past few years as one of the architects of the Florida Fire 7-on-7, whose team produces multiple top-level recruits each year.

The hire is expected to be made official and announced this week.​

https://www.canesinsight.com/thread/miami-set-add-david-cooney-support-staff/115785

 

[The Franchise]

Sabag will likely quit as soon as the NCAA bands together and decides that unlimited "analysts" is a major advantage to programs like Alabaga and Texas. Sabag can run an NFL organization with 35 "analysts" while other colleges are trying to do it with a handful of "analysts." This fake "analyst" game is the biggest unfair advantage that programs like Alabaga have.

 

[ben]

I find it interesting how many titles such as "offensive analyst" Bama has, its just a bunch of extra coaches to strategize or help prepare. I understand their resources, but shouldn't we hire at least one or two of these "titles"?

We do and did - just not to the extent of Bama:

01-09-2017, 03:10 PM

Peter Ariz

Administrator


Miami set to add David Cooney to support staff

Miami is set to add local coach David Cooney to their football support staff, as he will join the program as an Offensive Quality Control Analyst.

Cooney was previously the offensive coordinator for the 2016 8A state champion Southridge Spartans and was at Coral Gables high school prior to that. Cooney has also made is mark in south Florida football over the past few years as one of the architects of the Florida Fire 7-on-7, whose team produces multiple top-level recruits each year.

The hire is expected to be made official and announced this week.​

https://www.canesinsight.com/thread/miami-set-add-david-cooney-support-staff/115785

POWER MOVE

 

[Cane Dynasty]

 

[passitback]

Lol @ not wanting to work with Saban.

Do you know what that does to your resume at this point? Some of you have never had a boss demand a lot from you.

It works both ways. Yes, putting "worked under Nick Saban" on a resume carries weight but if you're an already established offensive coach who wants to run your own offense and not have to deal with a head coach publicly castrating you on the sidelines of every game because you're not calling the offense HE wants to run, you might not be interested in the Alabama job. The funny thing is, the games Alabama has lost in recent years were games they go outscored in. Their offense has held up their end of the bargain, Nicky's defense can't stop a team with a quarterback that can complete a forward pass.

No ****?



Sam Spade on the scene...

 

[bigpurk45]

Exactly. Kiffin took a pay cut to get the **** out of Bama.

Kiffin took a pay cut to get a foothold in south florida for recruiting purposes... Bama made it a "must have" to recruit down here... He saw how well that works so he's making it a priority. He will be at FAU 3 years max before he finds a job at a school like FLorida... ijs

 

[HulkaCaniac]

Lol, Bama signed the number one class this year. I dont see Bama slowing down at any point while Sabanis the coach.

 

[DTP]

Lol @ not wanting to work with Saban.

Do you know what that does to your resume at this point? Some of you have never had a boss demand a lot from you.

It works both ways. Yes, putting "worked under Nick Saban" on a resume carries weight but if you're an already established offensive coach who wants to run your own offense and not have to deal with a head coach publicly castrating you on the sidelines of every game because you're not calling the offense HE wants to run, you might not be interested in the Alabama job. The funny thing is, the games Alabama has lost in recent years were games they go outscored in. Their offense has held up their end of the bargain, Nicky's defense can't stop a team with a quarterback that can complete a forward pass.

No ****?

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Sam Spade on the scene...

I know you're just trying to be cute but I shouldn't have to explain that the when someone uses the term "outscored" it's usually in reference to an offensive shootout. Seems like every other poster here understood that.

 

[passitback]

Lol @ not wanting to work with Saban.

Do you know what that does to your resume at this point? Some of you have never had a boss demand a lot from you.

It works both ways. Yes, putting "worked under Nick Saban" on a resume carries weight but if you're an already established offensive coach who wants to run your own offense and not have to deal with a head coach publicly castrating you on the sidelines of every game because you're not calling the offense HE wants to run, you might not be interested in the Alabama job. The funny thing is, the games Alabama has lost in recent years were games they go outscored in. Their offense has held up their end of the bargain, Nicky's defense can't stop a team with a quarterback that can complete a forward pass.

No ****?

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Sam Spade on the scene...

I know you're just trying to be cute but I shouldn't have to explain that the when someone uses the term "outscored" it's usually in reference to an offensive shootout. Seems like every other poster here understood that.

Just busting balls.

 

[BigJoeGrizzly]

Next is Tony Russell heading up the Bama Financial aid department. Maybe get Mark Whipple to learn how to go three and out or end a possession on a turnover on a consistent basis?

 

[Jdogoh]

Exactly. Kiffin took a pay cut to get the **** out of Bama.

Kiffin wasn't going to be retained by Bama. His contract was up. No one wanted him, FAU was obviously not his first choice.

 

[DTP]

Exactly. Kiffin took a pay cut to get the **** out of Bama.

Kiffin wasn't going to be retained by Bama. His contract was up. No one wanted him, FAU was obviously not his first choice.

Sarkisian bolted after just one game as Bama OC. Was his contract up too? There's a reason why known commodities are leaving Tuscaloosa and they're getting replaced by the likes of Dan Werner, Pat Nix and Brian Daboll.

 

[The Franchise]

Exactly. Kiffin took a pay cut to get the **** out of Bama.

Kiffin wasn't going to be retained by Bama. His contract was up. No one wanted him, FAU was obviously not his first choice.

Sarkisian bolted after just one game as Bama OC. Was his contract up too? There's a reason why known commodities are leaving Tuscaloosa and they're getting replaced by the likes of Dan Werner, Pat Nix and Brian Daboll.

The funniest one was Cristobag. That POS traitor bailed on UM to go to Alabaga because he thought being attached to Sabag would result in riches, fame and a major P5 HC gig. As it turned out, he spent 4 or 5 years getting abused, demoted and then ultimately taking a lateral gig out in the wasteland of Eugene, Oregon where he has zero connections.