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DAILY DEBATE: Which Decade was best?

TheOriginalCane said:
One could also argue that we were robbed of a chance in 1988.
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I agree with you, but is that argument as strong as the ‘00 and ‘02 one? WVU in 88 was at least undefeated, whereas in 2000 we had beaten FSU. I do understand we got robbed on the fumble call, but it wasn’t the last play of the game like 2002.
 
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hesskilla said:
I agree with you, but is that argument as strong as the ‘00 and ‘02 one? WVU in 88 was at least undefeated, whereas in 2000 we had beaten FSU. I do understand we got robbed on the fumble call, but it wasn’t the last play of the game like 2002.
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In each case (86, 88, 00, 02) we just didn't get it done. We didn't play up to our potential and flatly lost games we could/should have won.

Was Miami better than Penn State, Notre Dame, Washington, Ohio State in those respective seasons? Probably.

It would be nice if more Miami fans acknowledged the times where things fell in our favor and how lucky we are to have 5 titles:

83: Osborn electing to go for 2
87: no luck needed
89: ND defeating Colorado in the 1990 Sugar Bowl
91: Gerry Thomas missing a 34-yard FG
01: Dropped Wilford 2-pt conversion in 2000 at VT, miracle play at BC
 
rok said:
In each case (86, 88, 00, 02) we just didn't get it done. We didn't play up to our potential and flatly lost games we could/should have won.

Was Miami better than Penn State, Notre Dame, Washington, Ohio State in those respective seasons? Probably.

It would be nice if more Miami fans acknowledged the times where things fell in our favor and how lucky we are to have 5 titles:

83: Osborn electing to go for 2
87: no luck needed
89: ND defeating Colorado in the 1990 Sugar Bowl
91: Gerry Thomas missing a 34-yard FG
01: Dropped Wilford 2-pt conversion in 2000 at VT, miracle play at BC
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We beat ND in 88, and OSU in 2003. The officials flat out said after the game that Gary's "fumble" was not a fumble, but rather they had given ND the ball on downs. The only problem with that was that Gary got the first down, easily. That, and the ball broke the goal line before it came loose for the non fumble. It was either a TD, or 1st and goal at the one inch line.

OSU, the fireworks had gone off. We didn't play perfectly, but we **** sure did enough to win.

Osbourn could have gone for the tie. Thing is, Kosar could have easily gotten us into FG range with the time that was left.

As for 86... I'll go to my grave believing Vinny threw that game.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Fiesta was nobody, which is why they could invite UM and Pedo State (both independent at the time).

I believe SWC was Cotton and Big 8 was Orange.
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This. The big 8 had the Orange Bowl. It’s why we played Nebraska so much
 
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rok said:
In each case (86, 88, 00, 02) we just didn't get it done. We didn't play up to our potential and flatly lost games we could/should have won.

Was Miami better than Penn State, Notre Dame, Washington, Ohio State in those respective seasons? Probably.

It would be nice if more Miami fans acknowledged the times where things fell in our favor and how lucky we are to have 5 titles:

83: Osborn electing to go for 2
87: no luck needed
89: ND defeating Colorado in the 1990 Sugar Bowl
91: Gerry Thomas missing a 34-yard FG
01: Dropped Wilford 2-pt conversion in 2000 at VT, miracle play at BC
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It goes both ways, right?

83'-
We missed a 42-yard FG prior to Nebraska's last drive.
Here's a better angle. We were ranked #5 (AP) going into that game.
It took a lot of sweating out that afternoon and evening to get us in position that night.
That's where I'll say we were very fortunate.

'89-
ND was #1 all year in '89 (till we beat them) and I believe were favored going in to that game. No question Miami and ND were 2 of the best teams in that 3 year span.

'91, '01-
You're right.

Some coach out there said you need to be good, and a little lucky to win a Natty.
Bottom line is, no matter how you look at it we're right about where we supposed to be.

It's funny how the better we were, the luckier we were.
 
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NJshoreCane said:
It goes both ways, right?

83'-
We missed a 42-yard FG prior to Nebraska's last drive.
Here's a better angle. We were ranked #5 going into that game.
It took a lot of sweating out that afternoon and evening to get us in position that night.
That's where I'll say we were very, very fortunate.

'89-
ND was #1 all year in '89 (till we beat them) and I believe were favored going in to that game. No question Miami and ND were 2 of the best teams in that 3 year span.

'91, '01-
You're right.

Some coach out there said you need to be good, and a little lucky to win a Natty.
Bottom line is, no matter how you look at it we're right about where we supposed to be.

It's funny how the better we were, the luckier we were.
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I understand the good and bad breaks argument when discussing national titles before the playoff era. It does go both ways. However, I believe 2000 and 2002 present extraordinary cases outside of what is considered normal good/bad luck. We got screwed both years.
 
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