Current State - Miami Turnaround

[ssvir]

Exceptional take. A best seller strategy book back in 2000s was called from Good To Great and found that the best public company performers brought in new leaders that took several years before they started to outperform the pack. Hurricanes football is a smaller operation and turns its personnel over at a much higher rate, so we should be able to pull that forward. But even the best turnarounds take time.

Mario started with virtually no organically-recruited and developed talent outside of the Covid class of 2021. And we all know the portal is a band-aid, not a cure. He needs 2 more back to back classes for the flywheel to gather momentum. I have no expectations between now and then other than the program keeps showing progress.

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[305to954]

FiTEEN & Cero

 

[grover]

Any post in this forum that screams positivity is always deemed an excellent take.

Unless you’re a mope. Give me a few more weeks of no portal news and I’ll attack OP. Fair?

 

[OldhamA]

Brian Kelly 2022:
Inherited a 6-7 LSU team from 2021. 10-4 in 2022

Mario Cristobal 2018:
Inherited a 7-6 UO team from 2017. 9-4 in 2018

Jimbo Fisher 2018:
Inherited a 7-6 TAMU team from 2017. 9-4 in 2018

Kevin Sumlin 2012:
Inherited a 7-6 TAMU team from 2011. 11-2 in 2012

Jimbo Fisher 2010:
Inherited a 7-6 FSU team from 2009. 10-4 in 2010


Those r just a few recent examples. The only coaches that came to mind who took over after winning at least 7 games the prior, & immediately had a losing season the following season were Shannon, Diaz, Sarkisian, & now Mario. I’m sure there r more, just couldn’t think of them.

I mean Brian Kelly is an exceptional coach (if a **** of a human being) and LSU aren't too far removed from a National Championship.

I'm not sure I'd cite Fisher and Sumlin tbh - two of those tenures collapsed and the third one is looking to follow suit. We're trying to build something for the long term here.

 

[DTP]

Brian Kelly 2022:
Inherited a 6-7 LSU team from 2021. 10-4 in 2022

Mario Cristobal 2018:
Inherited a 7-6 UO team from 2017. 9-4 in 2018

Jimbo Fisher 2018:
Inherited a 7-6 TAMU team from 2017. 9-4 in 2018

Kevin Sumlin 2012:
Inherited a 7-6 TAMU team from 2011. 11-2 in 2012

Jimbo Fisher 2010:
Inherited a 7-6 FSU team from 2009. 10-4 in 2010


Those r just a few recent examples. The only coaches that came to mind who took over after winning at least 7 games the prior, & immediately had a losing season the following season were Shannon, Diaz, Sarkisian, & now Mario. I’m sure there r more, just couldn’t think of them.

It took Sonny Dykes one season to take a 5-7 team to 13-2.

Some of these guys are the same people who were still waiting for Golden and D’Onofrio to get “their guys” on defense in season three. It doesn’t take four years to go from 7-5 to 9-3

 

[Dwinstitles]

MOAR excuses…..Duke flipped the roster in one year and curb stumped us

And dukes cheeks and will never do anything but have up and down seasons. When u mid asf anyone can beat u and that's us. It's just basic logic.

 

[Hurry-Cane]

No, no, no don’t you guys get it. We should sign every single guy in the portal by overpaying for them all, and then expect Mario to also land a top 3 recruiting class after 20 years of being irrelevant. I do it all the time in Xbox football, why can’t UM do it in 1 year???? So easy!

 

[JD08]

There's a difference between building a championship program and building a good enough program. We'll know which we are before too long.

 

[TheEye]

He's going to turn it around for sure. He just needs a lot of time. This sh was a dumpster juice, and fans think we have a chance in the past even this season. Talent has been bare for ages but the fans got sucked in like we had a chance. This is a complete proper rebuild it will take long like Michigan. Give the man time to bring in the savages and stack it properly.

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Look at Harbaugh’s numbers! Way better than anyone at Miami, yet I’m sure people on here would be saying he’s “not the guy.”

We are only recently getting a budget like Michigan or Georgia have had for years.

Richt dragged Miami kicking and screaming into a higher budget.

We are still a couple of seasons away from getting used to double digit wins, let alone winning the whole conference.

 

[harphong]

As an Episcopalian I take umbrage at your statement.

Meat me in blu lot. Mat drills

 

[TheEye]

Yeah, I've been a squire to the mopesmen since about 13, but regarding Mario - he's a fraud until proven otherwise and it takes time...blah blah blha. I just expect to see competitive product even if the W/L ratio doesn't improve. Getting boatraced by MTSU at home and the other abysmals have ALL their reasons...I just want to see 6-6 with no absolute grape stompers at home by directional cosmetology academy, Brigham Young Episcopalian or the like. That's what 23 needs to be. That's all.

They’re tough. No one has a win against BYE.

 

[2xbamm]

I read so much on this site about Mario’s not going to make it, players stink, our OC blows, mostly just a lot hyperbole. I have a few thoughts I want to bring because I’ve been involved in a few corporate turnarounds (currently in one) and understand the depths of what it takes to turn something around from the brink of failure to a success.

• Turnrounds are not easy – it why they are called a turnaround. For 20 years we have not played good football, invested correctly, hired competently, developed talent the right way, etc. It’s why we had a crappy season last year and it’s why we’ve continually had bad seasons with lots of unrealistic expectations. It’s also why we have few players drafted and why so few have developed. Makes complete sense. To think this can be fixed overnight is not correct. It took me and a very talented group 5 years to turn around a business with 30K employees and we didn’t get every hire right. Mario didn’t get the OC right last year. I hired a CFO from Microsoft, great pedigree, etc., yet he failed. Not everything is going to work, especially with senior level hires. Making changes quickly is important when you identify problems. Not everyone on paper that looks the part is going to be successful or have the wherewithal to know the challenges ahead and adapt. Not to mention the CEO has to be able to chance and evolve too. I think we are seeing that in Mario.
• Focus on 3 things and do those well. Miami has far more problems than just 3 things as we all know, and you can’t fix everything all at once nor can you do it at the drop of a hat. This stuff takes TIME. Far too often in turnarounds people try to tackle a hundred things but do a hundred things average so you don’t really improve drastically. It’s mostly just band-aids on the problems. Focus on 3 things – fix those and move to the 4ththen the 5th and so on. I think all of us would agree Miami never invested in the program. Issue 1. They are doing that. Capital injection and bringing Miami up to par. Paying for coaches, staff, facilities, etc. Again, not always going to get everything right but it’s a start. You can’t compete with Bama or OSU if you aren’t going to invest. Issue 2 – identify talent. I believe in Mario, but he can’t do it all on his own. Alonzo and the strong team he gathered around to identify talent I believe will help – something we haven’t had in years since Butch (Al had an eye but didn’t develop that well or change). All of you talk about evaluations and players, something I can’t speak to as just a fan, but it takes time. If you haven’t been good at identifying talent and developing it, why do you expect to be anything other than middle grade and few guys drafted??? Issue 3 – Develop it. Again, it takes time and having good coaches. Outside of Gattis – and look the guy was at Bama, worked at Michigan, the signs all pointed but like everything – not everyone on paper that appears to look great works out. We must develop talent and hopefully the coaches we have will do that. But to expect guys to be overnight sensations and live off the high school highlight reels is not realistic. Being great at something requires time, mentorship, help, coaching, support, all those things need to happen. Hopefully we are injecting this into the program.

Overall, patience is not something people want to hear. But the truth is. This is a turnaround, and the fruits of this turnaround are not all noticeable nor seen just yet. They take some time and my guess is we see this in year 3 (not this year), but to expect to be in the playoffs or top 10-15 after so many years being average or slightly above is not realistic.

jdg3158, great synopsis!

You inserted quite a bit about professional accomplishments and that in itself is impressive. However, I'd have to assume you relaxed a bit when writing this as the writing style does not fit what you say you do professionally. Just my take.

But thanks for some really sound points, or facts I should say.

Good day Sir!

 

[jdg3158]

Brian Kelly 2022:
Inherited a 6-7 LSU team from 2021. 10-4 in 2022

Mario Cristobal 2018:
Inherited a 7-6 UO team from 2017. 9-4 in 2018

Jimbo Fisher 2018:
Inherited a 7-6 TAMU team from 2017. 9-4 in 2018

Kevin Sumlin 2012:
Inherited a 7-6 TAMU team from 2011. 11-2 in 2012

Jimbo Fisher 2010:
Inherited a 7-6 FSU team from 2009. 10-4 in 2010


Those r just a few recent examples. The only coaches that came to mind who took over after winning at least 7 games the prior, & immediately had a losing season the following season were Shannon, Diaz, Sarkisian, & now Mario. I’m sure there r more, just couldn’t think of them.

Rellyrell - ur one of my favorites to read and enjoy your posts.

However - there’s more to it when you dig in on these. LSU, TAMU, FSU and even Oregon I would argue have had more talent those years or talent that would help drive wins compared to Miami last year or in the last few years. I’m not looking up those rosters but I would make an educated guess those rosters had more talent than Miami. I could be wrong.

Comps are great but we lack talent, have a severe culture problem and that’s just to start. Not to mention - Diaz (first coaching job and I’d argue far outclassed and over his head), Shannon (same as Diaz), Sark (more to the story and prob a culture problem there after Herman). But it’s more than talent - Jimbo and Brian are 2 great coaches who either won an NC or coached in one. Also wasn’t TAMU with Manziel and Kliff Kingsbury was the OC in 2012? And Oregon has been far superior than Miami the last decade and half. It’s just facts.

 

[CoachChin]

FSU was a complete dumpster fire, we were no-where near that bad.

Read all that and missed the point #cis

 

[SinisterCane]

And dukes cheeks and will never do anything but have up and down seasons. When u mid asf anyone can beat u and that's us. It's just basic logic.

Our HC is cheeks, constantly will get outcoached from the likes of MTSU to Clemson and let’s throw in Utah St. for good measure

But I get it, Mario needs 4 recruiting classes to overcome his own gameday short comings

 

[grover]

Our HC is cheeks, constantly will get outcoached from the likes of MTSU to Clemson and let’s throw in Utah St. for good measure

But I get it, Mario needs 4 recruiting classes to overcome his own gameday short comings

Oregon Ducks
2018 9-4 with bowl win over Michigan State). Note that the team was 7-6 under Taggart the prior year, and 4-8 the year before that.
2019 12-2 with bowl win over WIsconsin
2020 4-3 (Covid year)
2021 10-4 including a win over Ohio State

Also, per Wikipedia: In his three years as head coach, Oregon signed the 8th, 12th and 6th ranked recruiting classes, which included #1 overall recruit and future #5 overall draft pick Kayvon Thibodeaux.

The very definition of cheeks.

 

[Cryptical Envelopment]

Our HC is cheeks, constantly will get outcoached from the likes of MTSU to Clemson and let’s throw in Utah St. for good measure

But I get it, Mario needs 4 recruiting classes to overcome his own gameday short comings

 

[SinisterCane]

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You left out getting his **** pushed in backward by Utah st. and stop following me all over CIS you cotdamm weirdo

 

[Angry Ibis]

Imagine the same thing being preached for previous staffs when the rot is said to be 20 years old….

People weren’t having it…

Those Coker players still on the roster are really killing the culture…

 

[GojiraCane]

As someone who created an article preaching patience to the fan base w/ Mario, there’s some things that need to be addressed.

1. My call for patience wasn’t for a 5 yr project, vs. tempering expectations for the first yr, just based upon the make up of the roster, & culture.

2. CFB is not the same as Corporate America, neither is a team w/ 85 scholarship players comparable to a company of 30k employees

3. In the day & age of CFB, there’s way too many overwhelming data points suggesting that a good coach typically turn around a team within 2 yrs, but the fruits of the labor truly bears by yr 3.

4. We talk about Miami woes for 20 yrs & what Mario inherited; well, let me furnish this board w/ another example from a disgraced coach by the name of Art Briles. Briles inherited a Baylor program in 2007 that hadn’t had a winning season since 1995. They were about 50 games under .500 as a program for 20 yrs b4 Briles took them over. He got them to their first winning season by yr 3, & their first double digit winning season since 1980 by yr 4.

In sports, especially with CFB due to the ability to acquire talent at an accelerated rate, you don’t need several yrs to accomplish goals. This yr alone we’ve seen Riley, Elko, and Dykes remake rosters in one yr & knock it out the ball park.

Briles did all those things, but also was successful in bringing in an absolutely generational QB in RGIII. Briles still would have turned Baylor around, but that jumpstarted everything.