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supacane said:
2 things to give credit for, 1 we had only 3 penalties for 35 yards. 2nd thing, we seem to be wrapping up better instead of always going for kill shots. Its not perfect but its some improvement imo. Of course the turnovers dampered alot of the good. But in reality, other than the high school team, that was our best performance of the season.

Our defense will not be a good defense without better LBs, particularly a middle LB who has a presence and knows what to do all the time.

But If we can play clean games, which means, penalties, tackling and turnovers we should finish 8-4. Still think its not good enough but i want these players playing as good as they can for the rest of the season, because no matter what changes will or wont be made, they are who are going to be on the field next season and if they start figuring things out, you can win despite the coaching or lack of at times.
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And our 2nd half defense was lights out after GT scored on their 1st drive of the 3rd quarter. 0 points and 18 total yards allowed (7 points and 91 total yards allowed in 2nd half)
 
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Dwinstitles said:
Finally someone with common sense speaks.
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Who is playing more or less than what we saw the first 4 weeks of the season?

Kinchens and Williams over Hall and Bolden is really the only major PT changes.

Corners are the same (for the most part -- Ivey's PT has gone up and down), backers are the same (getting Smiff back from injury was huge, but 11 and 17 have been playing a ton from Day 1), DL rotation is the same, with some LT56 mixed in more. But yes, the addition of Kinchens and subtraction of the other 2 have helped. Other than that, it's pretty much the same kids. They're just tacking a little bit better. I'm not really sure where this notion of wholesale changes is coming from, like we replaced 11 kids who couldn't tackle a parking cone with 11 new ones and it's solved all our problems. I think we're probably just regressing more to the mean in the last few weeks. These kids are too talented to be the worst tackling team in the country. And always have been. Maybe they just got tired of hearing about it and decided to make it a priority.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
Who is playing more or less than what we saw the first 4 weeks of the season?

Kinchens and Williams over Hall and Bolden is really the only major PT changes.

Corners are the same (for the most part -- Ivey's PT has gone up and down), backers are the same (getting Smiff back from injury was huge, but 11 and 17 have been playing a ton from Day 1), DL rotation is the same, with some LT56 mixed in more. But yes, the addition of Kinchens and subtraction of the other 2 have helped. Other than that, it's pretty much the same kids. They're just tacking a little bit better. I'm not really sure where this notion of wholesale changes is coming from, like we replaced 11 kids who couldn't tackle a parking cone with 11 new ones and it's solved all our problems. I think we're probably just regressing more to the mean in the last few weeks. These kids are too talented to be the worst tackling team in the country. And always have been. Maybe they just got tired of hearing about it and decided to make it a priority.
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Defense still sucks personel wise.
 
Dwinstitles said:
Defense still sucks personel wise.
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Pretty much. I guess if we want to be 1% optimistic, the game on Saturday was the best effort of the season, IMO. It still wasn't great, but GT had come in putting up some pretty solid offensive numbers, and they were all way down against us. Only gave up 21 points on defense.

The 2nd half, they opened with a TD drive. After that, they went missed long FG, 3 and out, 3 and out, 1 first down and punt, 4 and out -- game over. You hold a team to 1 first down on 4 consecutive drives, 5 drives total without points, you're going to win a lot more than not.

Hopefully at least some of this carries over into this week. I expect Travis to play on Saturday and he's probably a better Jeff Sims.
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
Pretty much. I guess if we want to be 1% optimistic, the game on Saturday was the best effort of the season, IMO. It still wasn't great, but GT had come in putting up some pretty solid offensive numbers, and they were all way down against us. Only gave up 21 points on defense.

The 2nd half, they opened with a TD drive. After that, they went missed long FG, 3 and out, 3 and out, 1 first down and punt, 4 and out -- game over. You hold a team to 1 first down on 4 consecutive drives, 5 drives total without points, you're going to win a lot more than not.

Hopefully at least some of this carries over into this week. I expect Travis to play on Saturday and he's probably a better Jeff Sims.
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330 yards total O, 21 points- 0 in the 4th is a good defensive showing.
The usual breakdowns, yes, like another 2nd and 25 run for a first down, but good overall.

Our biggest Achilles heel is the crossing patterns. Good QB's expose that.
Sims went to the flats more. The easier read and safer call.
Not so sure Travis can take advantage of the middle throughout the game.
 
Dwinstitles said:
Thanks Banda
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Is he a good coach? I'm not a football expert but I've been a fan for 40 years and I think he's a great recruiter but I'm not sure on how his coaching safeties was. Sometimes I feel the safeties were out of position. Maybe that's them not remembering where to be.
 
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HurikaneMarc said:
This. Kinchens hasn't missed a tackle this year.
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He needs to teach J. Williams how to wrap up. He had a clean shot at the QB and missed it horribly, way too often he just throws a shoulder at someone, this isn't high school anymore
 
ScubaCane said:
He needs to teach J. Williams how to wrap up. He had a clean shot at the QB and missed it horribly, way too often he just throws a shoulder at someone, this isn't high school anymore
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He's a big, strong, physical kid who probably thinks he can knock everybody down. He's seeing film that these college backs are big and strong too.
 
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AZHurricane said:
The thing about mediocre-to-bad teams is - it’s always something. One week it’s penalties, another week it’s fumbles, another week it’s tackling, then there’s those freak plays where we drop an INT for an opponent TD or give up a blocked PAT score.

We all know it’s been four years since we’ve put together anything close to a complete game against a P5 team. And the current guy was not the coach then.
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I'd say the *** whoopin against FSPoo last year was pretty complete
 
SFbayCane said:
"Well at some point I have to put the best players on the field."

~ Manny Diaz after dropping to 2-4 on the season. :y-u-no:
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“It’s the mark of a great leader to find and identity talent, I mean difference making talent, ok?, then to get that difference making talent into your program. Then, and this is key, the truly great leaders make sure their jerseys never get dirty. I mean ever, spotless uniforms.

That’s what separates the good from the great in our profession, and not everyone can do it. Through the first 6 games I have to say we did a pretty good job of keeping that talent hidden in plain sight.”
 
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