Ya but Ham was brought in at a very rough time, total rebuild of the program.
Coach L had a good core of players, when he arrived.
You mean a core group of players that were considered garbage due to the guy that had recruited and NOT developed them? People forget that Julian Gamble was considered a role player, nothing more when Coach L got here. People forget that Kenny Kadji was considered a nerd that Florida wanted out before L got here. Reggie J. was just a fat guy before Coach L got here. Outside of consistent stars like D. Scott and S. Larkin, L overachieved with that 2012 team. Coach Ham inherited a relatively new program, but let's not pretend that he didn't take forever to make the program respectable. Coach L has managed to do a lot more, in a tougher overall conference(The Big East in the 90s was falling apart basketball wise, it wasn't even close to the conference it was in the eighties) a lot faster than Ham ever did. Frankly, Ham's tenure at FSU has been underwhelming.