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Lance Leipold. HC at Wisconsin Whitewater. In 7+ seasons at that school his record is an unreal 100-6. He's won 5 National Championships in 7 seasons. He's the fastest HC ever to 100 wins at any level of college football.

With the recent success of HS coaches in high-level D1 football (Malzahn, Briles, Pruitt, and Chad Morris come to mind immediately), I wonder why a guy who is currently enjoying unprecedented success in college football can't be successful at the FCS Power 5 level. I'm of the mindset that if you can get incredible results (e.g. total domination in the form of 5 NCs in 7 years and a 100-6 record) at a lower level of football that means it can translate to higher levels. In other words, if you can coach you can coach.

Keep in mind that I'm talking about guys who have had extraordinary success at lower levels like Malzahn, Briles, Pruitt, Morris and Leipold. I'm not talking about guys who have had decent success.
 
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What's his angle? Some sort of offensive or defensive wonderboy? I doubt he's a screamer like Hudspeth.
 
Gerry Faust had an unbelievable high school record too when he took over Notre Dame. JJ put a stake in his heart.
 
AUcane said:
What's his angle? Some sort of offensive or defensive wonderboy? I doubt he's a screamer like Hudspeth.
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A cerebral tactician type. Not a screamer. Obviously an incredible motivator to have his team achieve that sort of level of excellence every single year.
 
kkinder94 said:
Gerry Faust had an unbelievable high school record too when he took over Notre Dame. JJ put a stake in his heart.
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Yep, Kelley. Reach back 30 years for Faust when I gave you 5 examples of HS coaches having tremendous success at the FCS level right now.
 
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CanadaCane said:
Can he recruit south florida? And how is he at developing talent?
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Anyone competent HC at UM can recruit South Florida. There's no magic potion. Put a good, exciting product on the field, develop players, and work hard.

I remember people questioning whether some redneck from Oklahoma State who grew up in Arkansas could recruit S. FL. Both of those rednecks--JJ and Butch--did an incredible job of it.
 
BigDikCane said:
Let ICE HARRIS coach...
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From a recruiting standpoint it would work out, but gameday coaching at this level? Well...couldn't be worse than AL really. He will at least have south FL athletes on lockdown and not begging them the month before signing day because he was chasing NJ kids who either can't stay on the field or off the sauce.
 
DapperSlapper said:
The Franchise said:
AUcane said:
What's his angle? Some sort of offensive or defensive wonderboy? I doubt he's a screamer like Hudspeth.
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A cerebral tactician type. Not a screamer. Obviously an incredible motivator to have his team achieve that sort of level of excellence every single year.
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This is a remarkable achievement. Complacency is a very difficult foe.
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That's where the true greats separate themselves. Anyone can fluke their way into a successful season or two. But to win 5 NCs in 7 seasons and go 100-6 is truly unbelievable at any level.
 
What Al has taught me is that regardless of the level youre at, you have to win something ala Urban, Tressel if you're gonna go small school or non power conference, its a must
 
Let me start by being honest, I have never heard of him (not that it means anything, so I googled).

My concerns would be as follows:

1. Can he handle SF Recruiting or recruiting at this level?

2. Why hasn't he moved up before? Is he that fond of his alma mater? Has no one come calling?

He literally has sanduskied the competition and makes $100K per year (see below), is he that happy in Wisconsin at a DIII school? I am impressed with the numbers, just confused as to why he is still at a DIII school.

http://archive.sheboyganpress.com/a...-Bo-Ryan-among-highest-paid-coaches-UW-System
 
He could be good. But I think that would be too big of jump way too soon. Miami is an entirely different universe from Wisconsin - Whitewater.
 
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Consigliere said:
caneaddict said:
What Al has taught me is that regardless of the level youre at, you have to win something ala Urban, Tressel if you're gonna go small school or non power conference, its a must
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How many championships does he have to win? He has 5.
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yes, he fulfills that criteria, just dont know about the 3 level jump, those HS guys OP mentions were coordinators first
 
VASoulCane said:
BigDikCane said:
Let ICE HARRIS coach...
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From a recruiting standpoint it would work out, but gameday coaching at this level? Well...couldn't be worse than AL really. He will at least have south FL athletes on lockdown and not begging them the month before signing day because he was chasing NJ kids who either can't stay on the field or off the sauce.
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HC - charlie strong
OC - Ice harris
DC - randy shannon

that would be a dream team coaching staff imo
 
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