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MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread: Stories, Tales, Lies, and Exaggerations

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Handsome Squidbum said:
Depends on how the Big12 deal is structured.

Here’s an insane idea- let’s say the Big12 is culled down to 12 teams, about half being Big12 and half being ACC.

Big12 signs a deal with Amazon 1.4 billion over 10 years for exclusive stream rights, (and allowing for OTA broadcast in the local market through a TV affiliate ).

in the B1G, Ohio St gets almost the same amount of money (100 million by the end of the decade) after winning 12 games as a b1g team that wins 2 games.

If you structured the B12/ACC hybrid so it has 70% guaranteed with 30% incentives, payout top teams could exceed 120 million or more.

So there are ways for the Big12 to be more profitable for top teams compared to other conferences that are required to equally distribute everything.
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You were right ... that is an insane idea.

You're basically reenacting the Producers with Springtime for Hitler.
 
Hurracanes said:
Yes. Miami generates $ with TV ratings and has great relationships with other programs (including ND) in the Big X. Unlike the ACC, the Big X isn’t gonna self sabotage by hurting its top tier programs.

I think you’re looking into the Wisconsin lawsuit way too much. It’s not as relevant as you think it is.
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The Wisky lawsuit was just to try to codify the B10 NIL contracts that are used conference wide.

It's not personal.
 
NorthernVirginiaCane said:
Yes. I certainly was.

I also predicted correctly that the ACC would move to unequal distributions.

One thing looks like I was wrong about was the ACC (and other conferences) pushing the weak links out. I'm surprised schools losing money on athletics and disgusted by the pay-to-play model haven't started to bail yet. But they get so much prestige from a big time sports program. Wake and BC market themselves to high school students that way (it was a big part of my Wake tour). So, that's all a few years off.

I think miami stays in the ACC, and the ACC gets a more favorable TV deal after 2030. Need a few more teams to step up these next few years. They like the path to the playoffs and the academic prestige.
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grover said:
First, I took them from Google Gemini whose source was Nielsen's Designated Market Areas (DMA). Depending on how you define a city's media zone, I'm sure you can come up with different rankings. The BiG controls more media markets regardless.

Second and third, the addressable market is greater because the BiG has a "product" in each market. You're correct that they're underpenetrated because they aren't promoting Rutgers, Maryland, et al correctly. But they have the higher upside. Just look at Miami to see how quickly viewership can flip once you pair great teams with large markets.

Fourth, agree on PE in the P4 or any of these biased deals being negotiated. Bad for college football and its fans. I also despise Taint. Still hate the UF and the SEC more.
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Brands matter more than markets. The SEC has better properties which makes it a better long term bet.
 
RightSaidFred said:
Brands matter more than markets. The SEC has better properties which makes it a better long term bet.
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I think the SEC is the best athletic conference- by a wide margin. Football, M & W Basketball, Baseball, Softball, Gymnastics, Volleyball, Track, Golf, etc. I know Miami doesn't compete in all of those sports, but I would love to see Miami athletics paired with that athletic conference. Maybe we could add softball and men's golf. PLus- I would rather have access to the SEC stadiums than the BIG.
 
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RightSaidFred said:
Brands matter more than markets. The SEC has better properties which makes it a better long term bet.
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True. If TV markets were the end all, the Big East back in the day would have made it as a football conference.

That being said, brands only go so far. The B1G TV numbers disappointed this year (reportedly) as it was a 2 headed monster this year basically. If the $EC continues to appear mortal, their TV numbers will go down as well.

College football as a whole would be smart to have ultimate control over their inventory of games for broadcast. As long as conferences negotiate their own deals, there will be down years for conferences and ****ed off TV networks in those years.
 
CaneinBroward said:
True. If TV markets were the end all, the Big East back in the day would have made it as a football conference.

That being said, brands only go so far. The B1G TV numbers disappointed this year (reportedly) as it was a 2 headed monster this year basically. If the $EC continues to appear mortal, their TV numbers will go down as well.

College football as a whole would be smart to have ultimate control over their inventory of games for broadcast. As long as conferences negotiate their own deals, there will be down years for conferences and ****ed off TV networks in those years.
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The SEC will always have higher viewership per game, probably by a lot- I think the spread this year vs the per BIG game was SEC 4.9 and the BIG 2.8. Miami would draw huge in the SEC.
 
HighPerformance said:
The SEC will always have higher viewership per game, probably by a lot- I think the spread this year vs the per BIG game was SEC 4.9 and the BIG 2.8. Miami would draw huge in the SEC.
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I try to avoid the use of "never" or "always". Conferences have ups and downs. Similar to divisions in the NFL. B1G took a hit this year by only having 3 teams being deemed playoff worthy.

$EC has the benefit of voter bias which had at least half their conference ranked every week of the season. Helps to explain why only 1 of 5 playoff teams made it to the semifinal. If they go yet a 4th straight year without a team in the final, voters may begin to lose that bias.

Miami will bring numbers wherever they go......as long as they continue to win. Just like everyone else.
 
HighPerformance said:
I think the SEC is the best athletic conference- by a wide margin. Football, M & W Basketball, Baseball, Softball, Gymnastics, Volleyball, Track, Golf, etc. I know Miami doesn't compete in all of those sports, but I would love to see Miami athletics paired with that athletic conference. Maybe we could add softball and men's golf. PLus- I would rather have access to the SEC stadiums than the BIG.
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Still absolutely insane to me that the University of Miami does not have a Men's Golf team. The amount of beautiful courses down there would be a huge selling point to bring recruits in for the team. Not to mention NIL opportunities with Bob Does Sports being a Miami guy. I can almost see a "Bobby Fairways Golf Center" materializing right before my eyes.
 
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RozayCane said:
Man when will these dudes realized they are paid as hired help for security.

I promise he would not have tried that at a higher level against a higher program coach
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It's amazing to me that so many of these guys do things like this when everyone in the world has a cell phone camera now.

Things like this shouldn't be happening regardless and this is ultimately very very small potatoes compared to much worse things going on that have been caught on camera, but think of how many things like this were happening and at best it was he said/she said and the person either in authority and/or who had the most power would almost always be assumed the 'right' one (and yeah - I know that still goes on, but phone cameras have really changed the game).
 
RozayCane said:
Man when will these dudes realized they are paid as hired help for security.

I promise he would not have tried that at a higher level against a higher program coach
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Agreed. It looks like it was played in a high school gym basically and the local rent-a-cop felt a little too much power. To be fair, we don't know what the coach had said. Definitely a bad look.
 
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