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MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread: Stories, Tales, Lies, and Exaggerations

One other issue with the Big10, I see. With all the talk about TV ratings and markets. Say FSU goes to the SEC with Clemson and we go to the Big10, potentially with Notre Dame, though that shouldn’t be a given.
Historically what are our biggest rivalry games and with it, attendance and TV ratings, FSU, Notre Dame, UF? All that goes out the window when/if we move to the Big10. The expansion to 9 conference games will mean realistically the end of scheduling big OOC games. FSU will drop us from the schedule just like UF did in 1988. The only sold out games we will have regular season, will be OSU once every couple years. Miami only sells out when we’re winning or against the above mentioned rivalries. That will be gone.
I’ve read our TV ratings will improve in the Big 10. Based on what? You think anyone is going to give a **** nationally to watch us play Maryland, Illinois and Nebraska?

Some of the most watched games in Miami history were when we were an independent and against independents, PSU, Notre Dame, FSU. The common denominator was winning, not being in a particular conference.
Of course I’m not advocating being an independent, that would be financial suicide, but leaving our traditional rivals and regional games where people can travel, is going to offset any attendance or TV ratings potentially gained from being in the Big10. There will be unforeseen consequences and if people think the ACC has been tone deaf to the needs of UM, FSU and Clemson, imagine when we enter a conference owned by OSU and Michigan?
We will have to win like we haven’t won in over 20 years just to break even, every year, and in a far more difficult landscape and with a more daunting schedule. Not because the Big 10 has a bunch of elite teams outside of OSU, Oregon, PSU and Meatchicken, but because of mitigating factors, weather, travel etc. when we are equal to UF and FSU, we beat them, because we’ve been living rent free in their head for 30 years. There is no one in the Big Ten that fears us, no one with a history outside of OSU and PSU that will make JRSRock Electric.
 
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RF-4CCane said:
One other issue with the Big10, I see. With all the talk about TV ratings and markets. Say FSU goes to the SEC with Clemson and we go to the Big10, potentially with Notre Dame, though that shouldn’t be a given.
Historically what are our biggest rivalry games and with it, attendance and TV ratings, FSU, Notre Dame, UF? All that goes out the window when/if we move to the Big10. The expansion to 9 conference games will mean realistically the end of scheduling big OOC games. FSU will drop us from the schedule just like UF did in 1988. The only sold out games we will have regular season, will be OSU once every couple years. Miami only sells out when we’re winning or against the above mentioned rivalries. That will be gone.
I’ve read our TV ratings will improve in the Big 10. Based on what? You think anyone is going to give a **** nationally to watch us play Maryland, Illinois and Nebraska?

Some of the most watched games in Miami history were when we were an independent and against independents, PSU, Notre Dame, FSU. The common denominator was winning, not being in a particular conference.
Of course I’m not advocating being an independent, that would be financial suicide, but leaving our traditional rivals and regional games where people can travel, is going to offset any attendance or TV ratings potentially gained from being in the Big10. There will be unforeseen consequences and if people think the ACC has been tone deaf to the needs of UM, FSU and Clemson, imagine when we enter a conference owned by OSU and Michigan?
We will have to win like we haven’t won in over 20 years just to break even, every year, and in a far more difficult landscape and with a more daunting schedule. Not because the Big 10 has a bunch of elite teams outside of OSU, Oregon, PSU and Meatchicken, but because of mitigating factors, weather, travel etc. when we are equal to UF and FSU, we beat them, because we’ve been living rent free in their head for 30 years. There is no one in the Big Ten that fears us, no one with a history outside of OSU and PSU that will make JRSRock Electric.
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Miami will find an FSU rival replacement.

Sad to lose, but not to worry.
 
Squid Bumciorek said:
Miami needs to be good at SOMETHING again. Academics or Athletics. Our administration is so f#cking incompetent that saying that we should be good at both is just a laughable proposition. So pick one. Shalala at least had UM going in the right direction academically. We were moving towards top 25, probably would be in the neighborhood of USC reputation wise. Since she left, Frenk flushed UMs rep like a smelly **** and we have returned to being “Suntan U”.

In terms of Athletics, we are going into a life or death negotiation for UM sports. What have we put on tape for the P2? Cristobal being given the biggest budget in the history of the program and bumbling around for two seasons, then finally making it look like we were headed to the ACC championship and faceplanting again due to yet another bad coordinator hire and terrible roster management.

Basketball and baseball are so bad that broadcasting games into the Gaza Strip is considered a war crime by the UN.

If I was running one of the P2s, I would treat UM like the International Monetary Fund treats corrupt countries asking for loans. They only get the loans if they make all the painful economic changes dictated by the IMF. Likewise, P2 should demand that UM replace the entire Board of Trustees with competent leaders, get a school president who has a track record of running a D1 program and maintaining academic and athletic excellence (sorry Joe Echevarria, you don’t qualify), and absolutely, unequivocally ,demand UM replace Sleepy Dan Rad as the AD as a condition to joining the P2. P2 leaders dont want another bottom feeder, and I would be very concerned (and rightfully so) that if UM landed in a P2, UM leadership would hoist up a “Mission Accomplished “ banner and then stop putting any effort into winning championships or the schools academic reputation. In other words, UM would continue its clown act like it has for the past few years.
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I suspect Miami's cost of attendance is going to become an existential crisis in next 10 years.

Miami better expand to a Palm Beach campus, and it should have been yesterday.

Bookmark this.
 
RF-4CCane said:
One other issue with the Big10, I see. With all the talk about TV ratings and markets. Say FSU goes to the SEC with Clemson and we go to the Big10, potentially with Notre Dame, though that shouldn’t be a given.
Historically what are our biggest rivalry games and with it, attendance and TV ratings, FSU, Notre Dame, UF? All that goes out the window when/if we move to the Big10. The expansion to 9 conference games will mean realistically the end of scheduling big OOC games. FSU will drop us from the schedule just like UF did in 1988. The only sold out games we will have regular season, will be OSU once every couple years. Miami only sells out when we’re winning or against the above mentioned rivalries. That will be gone.
I’ve read our TV ratings will improve in the Big 10. Based on what? You think anyone is going to give a **** nationally to watch us play Maryland, Illinois and Nebraska?

Some of the most watched games in Miami history were when we were an independent and against independents, PSU, Notre Dame, FSU. The common denominator was winning, not being in a particular conference.
Of course I’m not advocating being an independent, that would be financial suicide, but leaving our traditional rivals and regional games where people can travel, is going to offset any attendance or TV ratings potentially gained from being in the Big10. There will be unforeseen consequences and if people think the ACC has been tone deaf to the needs of UM, FSU and Clemson, imagine when we enter a conference owned by OSU and Michigan?
We will have to win like we haven’t won in over 20 years just to break even, every year, and in a far more difficult landscape and with a more daunting schedule. Not because the Big 10 has a bunch of elite teams outside of OSU, Oregon, PSU and Meatchicken, but because of mitigating factors, weather, travel etc. when we are equal to UF and FSU, we beat them, because we’ve been living rent free in their head for 30 years. There is no one in the Big Ten that fears us, no one with a history outside of OSU and PSU that will make JRSRock Electric.
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The networks aren't blind. BIG OOC matchups will be part of the regular season programming. The B10 and SEC are already in discussions regarding scheduled cross conference games IN ADDITION to going to 9 conference games. What is going to happen is that the OOC games with G5 programs will be eliminated. Conference Realignment is all about MATCHUPS that draw eyeballs. Miami in the B10 would still be a regular matchup vs FSU in the SEC (just like UF is currently playing FSU every year).

Will be interesting to see what happens with the "next phase" of realignment now that the ACC essentially lost their law suit and formally announced a palatable exit fee with all media rights ($168 M for the 2026 season). The $$$ is there in carriage fees alone for the B10 to add ONE Florida ACC school at full share in 2026. Will there be any announcements this August? Popcorn time once again.
 
RF-4CCane said:
One other issue with the Big10, I see. With all the talk about TV ratings and markets. Say FSU goes to the SEC with Clemson and we go to the Big10, potentially with Notre Dame, though that shouldn’t be a given.
Historically what are our biggest rivalry games and with it, attendance and TV ratings, FSU, Notre Dame, UF? All that goes out the window when/if we move to the Big10. The expansion to 9 conference games will mean realistically the end of scheduling big OOC games. FSU will drop us from the schedule just like UF did in 1988. The only sold out games we will have regular season, will be OSU once every couple years. Miami only sells out when we’re winning or against the above mentioned rivalries. That will be gone.
I’ve read our TV ratings will improve in the Big 10. Based on what? You think anyone is going to give a **** nationally to watch us play Maryland, Illinois and Nebraska?

Some of the most watched games in Miami history were when we were an independent and against independents, PSU, Notre Dame, FSU. The common denominator was winning, not being in a particular conference.
Of course I’m not advocating being an independent, that would be financial suicide, but leaving our traditional rivals and regional games where people can travel, is going to offset any attendance or TV ratings potentially gained from being in the Big10. There will be unforeseen consequences and if people think the ACC has been tone deaf to the needs of UM, FSU and Clemson, imagine when we enter a conference owned by OSU and Michigan?
We will have to win like we haven’t won in over 20 years just to break even, every year, and in a far more difficult landscape and with a more daunting schedule. Not because the Big 10 has a bunch of elite teams outside of OSU, Oregon, PSU and Meatchicken, but because of mitigating factors, weather, travel etc. when we are equal to UF and FSU, we beat them, because we’ve been living rent free in their head for 30 years. There is no one in the Big Ten that fears us, no one with a history outside of OSU and PSU that will make JRSRock Electric.
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No one fears us anymore in any conference
 
Rickd said:
The networks aren't blind. BIG OOC matchups will be part of the regular season programming. The B10 and SEC are already in discussions regarding scheduled cross conference games IN ADDITION to going to 9 conference games. What is going to happen is that the OOC games with G5 programs will be eliminated. Conference Realignment is all about MATCHUPS that draw eyeballs. Miami in the B10 would still be a regular matchup vs FSU in the SEC (just like UF is currently playing FSU every year).

Will be interesting to see what happens with the "next phase" of realignment now that the ACC essentially lost their law suit and formally announced a palatable exit fee with all media rights ($168 M for the 2026 season). The $$$ is there in carriage fees alone for the B10 to add ONE Florida ACC school at full share in 2026. Will there be any announcements this August? Popcorn time once again.
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UF is only playing FSU every year because UF tried to drop FSU and the Florida legislature mandated that they had to play each year.

Schools like OSU, PSU, Michigan, UGA already schedule cream puff OOC games under the “our conference schedules are already elite” BS. It will only get worse when the conference schedules increase.
The playoff era selection committees have caused this because they don’t reward playing tough schedules any longer, they reward record and perceived elite programs.
 
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RF-4CCane said:
No one in PSL can afford UM.
You put it in PB Gardens and draw Stuart as well or Boca. Those are your best choices.
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The Mecca Farms site where they had discussed putting biotech companies would give the acreage required. But the educational options on the Treasure Coast are few and far between. The goal isn't to just cater to the rich.
 
Empirical Cane said:
IF this is accurate reporting...this is unsustainable and the network contracts will not pay for this...

www.essentiallysports.com

Ohio State’s $38M Loss Rings Alarm for College Football Future as B1G Financial Reports Show Dark Reality

Ohio State's $38M loss exposes financial concerns as Big Ten reports reveal a troubling economic outlook for college football.
www.essentiallysports.com
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How is that even possible? The player budget should have been born by the NIL boosters. So how can non-NIL operations increase that much? I call bull****.
 
RF-4CCane said:
UF is only playing FSU every year because UF tried to drop FSU and the Florida legislature mandated that they had to play each year.

Schools like OSU, PSU, Michigan, UGA already schedule cream puff OOC games under the “our conference schedules are already elite” BS. It will only get worse when the conference schedules increase.
The playoff era selection committees have caused this because they don’t reward playing tough schedules any longer, they reward record and perceived elite programs.
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That is looking in the rearview mirror. Programming big matchup games is the focus of the networks who are paying the $$$$ that the P2 conference members covet and the networks aren't going to continue paying huge contract numbers for games like Bama vs Alcorn State. They want Bama vs Michigan. The game scheduling will be seeing major changes once the SEC and B10 formalize a cross conference scheduling agreement, and that will take up the regular season slots outside of the 9 conference games. Adios G5 to big time TV slots.
 
Empirical Cane said:
I suspect Miami's cost of attendance is going to become an existential crisis in next 10 years.

Miami better expand to a Palm Beach campus, and it should have been yesterday.
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JD08 said:
I'd argue Stuart/PSL as well.
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RF-4CCane said:
You put it in PB Gardens and draw Stuart as well or Boca. Those are your best choices.
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Might want to add Moore Haven to the list while we're at it.

Passed through there a few years back.

Plenty of open space to construct not only an AAU-branded university but also an 80,000 capacity on-campus stadium
 
Rickd said:
That is looking in the rearview mirror. Programming big matchup games is the focus of the networks who are paying the $$$$ that the P2 conference members covet and the networks aren't going to continue paying huge contract numbers for games like Bama vs Alcorn State. They want Bama vs Michigan. The game scheduling will be seeing major changes once the SEC and B10 formalize a cross conference scheduling agreement, and that will take up the regular season slots outside of the 9 conference games. Adios G5 to big time TV slots.
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A nine-game conference schedule fits like a glove for a 24-team SEC/B1G.

Two permanent opponents aka rivals every season

Play the other 21 conference opponents twice (home and away) in a 6-year cycle

Room for three non-conference games, including one set aside for the SEC-B1G challenge (a surefire TV ratings and attendance success)

Be surprised tbh if Sankey and Petitti haven't already hammered out something along these lines
 
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Rickd said:
That is looking in the rearview mirror. Programming big matchup games is the focus of the networks who are paying the $$$$ that the P2 conference members covet and the networks aren't going to continue paying huge contract numbers for games like Bama vs Alcorn State. They want Bama vs Michigan. The game scheduling will be seeing major changes once the SEC and B10 formalize a cross conference scheduling agreement, and that will take up the regular season slots outside of the 9 conference games. Adios G5 to big time TV slots.
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I agree that the networks should push that, but the last several years has seen the SEC and Big10 scheduling weaker OOC games, because they’ve figured out that the selection committees don’t care.

I’m just very uncomfortable being in a conference where the next closest program is 1000 miles away and run by OSU and Michigan.

In my humble opinion, the ACC and Big12 should merge, keeping the best programs and enough mid tier programs to keep schedules on par with the SEC/Big10.
Then when those two conferences push their 4-4-2 (-2) model, we sue the Fvck out of them on anti trust grounds.
The networks can pay conferences what they want, that’s just business, but when they start putting conferences at a disadvantage that have a history of winning, I think the courts would see it as a monopoly.
 
RF-4CCane said:
I agree that the networks should push that, but the last several years has seen the SEC and Big10 scheduling weaker OOC games, because they’ve figured out that the selection committees don’t care.

I’m just very uncomfortable being in a conference where the next closest program is 1000 miles away and run by OSU and Michigan.

In my humble opinion, the ACC and Big12 should merge, keeping the best programs and enough mid tier programs to keep schedules on par with the SEC/Big10.
Then when those two conferences push their 4-4-2 (-2) model, we sue the Fvck out of them on anti trust grounds.
The networks can pay conferences what they want, that’s just business, but when they start putting conferences at a disadvantage that have a history of winning, I think the courts would see it as a monopoly.
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Love you screen name btw.
 
Empirical Cane said:
Love you screen name btw.
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Thanks. My first duty station was in Germany, as an intel analyst working with RF-4C’s.
Some here probably remember me as Foxbat as I’ve been on Cane boards since the first year of Grassy. Took 5-6 years off of posting after I shut down my own Canes site (Canesmutiny) after a 10 year run.
 
mik303 said:
Miami needs to be in the B1G. We can't worry about how many times we play UF and FSU. Miami wins, people watch. Period.
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Not being argumentative, but why r we fully focused on The B1G? Imho, the only conference that makes sense from a perception, regional, attendance, recruiting standpoint is the SEC. I’m really not sure when this thread became all B1G (I’m lying, yeah I do), but this myopic view of our fan base keeps distorting big picture.
 
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