MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread: Stories, Tales, Lies, and Exaggerations

-Then when Clemson joined FSU, it was stated Rad & Clemson’s AD were working together.

:LOL:

Go on and pull that receipt Relly

That was a Grade A fabrication right there ... Clemson and the Holes have been in bed on their ACC escape to the SEC from Day 1.

Far and way our likeliest partner for a move up to the P2 is Notre Dame
 
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But but but Miami to the SEC, Miami to the B1G …. ACC had no leverage, yet we’re still in it for 6 more years?

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We'll be out by the latest for the 2028 football season
 
:LOL:

Go on and pull that receipt Relly

That was a Grade A fabrication right there ... Clemson and the Holes have been in bed on their ACC escape to the SEC from Day 1.

Far and way our likeliest partner for a move up to the P2 is Notre Dame
Say whaaaaaaa. You think Notre Dame would actually partner with us?????

I think there's no shot in that. They don't need to partner with anyone let alone one of their biggest rivals.
 
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Say whaaaaaaa. You think Notre Dame would actually partner with us?????

I think there's no shot in that. They don't need to partner with anyone let alone one of their biggest rivals.

Not "partner" in the sense of schools working in tandem, but more as brands and/or geographically-connected schools brought in as pairs.

Previous examples:

Texas + Oklahoma --> SEC

USC + UCLA --> B1G

Oregon + Washington --> B1G

I'm guessing we'll see the actual moves themselves completed by the summer of 2027 or '28:

ACC to B1G: UM+ND and Cal+Stanford

ACC to SEC: UVA+VT and UNC+NCSU and Clemson+fsu and Duke+GT

ACC to XII en masse: Louisville, Pitt, Syracuse, BC, SMU???

SOL: Wake
 
Those were the comments floating around at that time. Radakovitch being in lock step with his replacement at Clemson ... and those 3 schools (Miami, Clemson & FSU being the first programs to start seriously looking into the feasibility of an exit ... later the 'effort' would expand into a group effort by the "magnificent 7". Took Clemson quite a while after FSU filed to pull the trigger and file a suit. Frenk reportedly was in disagreement with Rad on the entire issue.
 
When Rad got to campus, Miami, Clemson, and FSU were already talking about how unhappy they were with the ACC media deal. The plan was for FSU and Clemson to be loud about it and go public, shake things up, and push for more info on the TV deal with ESPN.

With all the lawsuits, schools leaving the conference are getting better exit deals. Meanwhile, Miami played it smart, avoiding the PR mess and saving money in the process. We will not be in the conference in 2030. Mike Ryan is spot on with his take. But hey, believe what you want.

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Those were the comments floating around at that time. Radakovitch being in lock step with his replacement at Clemson ... and those 3 schools (Miami, Clemson & FSU being the first programs to start seriously looking into the feasibility of an exit ... later the 'effort' would expand into a group effort by the "magnificent 7". Took Clemson quite a while after FSU filed to pull the trigger and file a suit. Frenk reportedly was in disagreement with Rad on the entire issue.
Others schools are in communication with other conferences, as well. It’s going to be real interesting where certain schools land and or do.
 
Not "partner" in the sense of schools working in tandem, but more as brands and/or geographically-connected schools brought in as pairs.

Previous examples:

Texas + Oklahoma --> SEC

USC + UCLA --> B1G

Oregon + Washington --> B1G

I'm guessing we'll see the actual moves themselves completed by the summer of 2027 or '28:

ACC to B1G: UM+ND and Cal+Stanford

ACC to SEC: UVA+VT and UNC+NCSU and Clemson+fsu and Duke+GT

ACC to XII en masse: Louisville, Pitt, Syracuse, BC, SMU???

SOL: Wake
There;s going to be movement, but not seeing some of these moves: The SEC has added only large, land-grant state schools over the last 14 years. Texas is the only addition that was surprising, and only surprising because A&M didn't want them, which was thought to be a deal-breaker. The B1G has only added one private school over their expansion- USC, which is a great academic institution in addition to fielding good (let's be honest, they haven't been great in 30 years in football and are usually slightly above average in men's basketball). The rest were also land-grant state institutions who are mostly known for very good academics (not seeing that with Maryland or Rutgers, or even Oregon, but those may well be my biases).
With that in mind, Cal and Stanford are the obvious academic prizes. They aren't going to the SEC-neither party wants the other. The West Coast B1G schools will certainly want them, but will the west coast schools have enough influence to get everyone else to include them? I am not buying the argument that Fox Sports controls everything with expansion, if the B1G wants Cal and Stanford bad enough Fox will cave, there are just too many other alternatives for the B1G for television markets.
FSU and Clemson are the more accomplished athletic programs if we're being honest, but neither (FSU in particular) distinguished themselves with these lawsuits. I will assume that both the B1G and SEC are smarter than the ACC and have venue clauses in their agreements to prevent the ridiculous litigation in 3 states that we saw. Still, litigious partners are not reliable partners, and I can see how each school created image issues for themselves. I seriously doubt any other conference views either school as a bad-*** because of their litigation tactics like so many message board fans seem to think.
For ND- any conference in the US will take them if they want to go- but is there enough incentive with the new 14 or 16 team playoff for them to even consider going to a conference? Not seeing it.
UNC can write their ticket if they want out, both the B1G and SEC will gladly take them. NC State is just not that attractive, though- not goo enough on the field/court and solid but not spectacular academically.
I am not seeing this allure of UVA, but the conferences do, so they can also go if they want, to whichever conference they select IMO.
Va Tech is different- they are well thought of by us, but not a prize for the conferences. Sucks to be them.
Ga Tech is a tough add- UGA controls Georgia even when Tech is good, and Tech is just in a tough market where they don't add enough to get eyeballs. Yes, they had a great viewership number in one game this year and a good number against us, but put them on at 10:30 eastern time against Cal and nobody is watching.
Miami's future depends on how much we win. Continue winning 10-13 games a year and getting the ratings we got last year and someone will want us. I doubt it will be the SEC because of UF, but maybe we are more palatable than FSU for them, and if it comes down to preventing the B1G from having control of Florida then perspectives can change, fast. I still see B1G (despite that moron Genetics continuous spew of bull****) as being a better fit but we are at least 4 years away from knowing anything. if the new bball coach is what we think he is, we will also add to that number. Now, figure out a way to fix baseball and we're solid.
 
UNC will be the first domino to fall. They dont reap the benefits as much to the new ND scheduling deal nor the rev share change and have huge overhead to cover with their BB investment. Also just because miami didn't formally file a lawsuit does not mean they didn't spend $ on this situation. Things are often not as good or bad as they seem. And pulling reciepts is fun but completely ignores reality in realignment. Anyone who ever claims to "know with 100% certainy" is guessing at best as theres always a chance someone takes a discount or no rev for a decade to upend the whole landscape. Ok back to lurking. *end rant*
 
There;s going to be movement, but not seeing some of these moves: The SEC has added only large, land-grant state schools over the last 14 years. Texas is the only addition that was surprising, and only surprising because A&M didn't want them, which was thought to be a deal-breaker. The B1G has only added one private school over their expansion- USC, which is a great academic institution in addition to fielding good (let's be honest, they haven't been great in 30 years in football and are usually slightly above average in men's basketball). The rest were also land-grant state institutions who are mostly known for very good academics (not seeing that with Maryland or Rutgers, or even Oregon, but those may well be my biases).
With that in mind, Cal and Stanford are the obvious academic prizes. They aren't going to the SEC-neither party wants the other. The West Coast B1G schools will certainly want them, but will the west coast schools have enough influence to get everyone else to include them? I am not buying the argument that Fox Sports controls everything with expansion, if the B1G wants Cal and Stanford bad enough Fox will cave, there are just too many other alternatives for the B1G for television markets.
FSU and Clemson are the more accomplished athletic programs if we're being honest, but neither (FSU in particular) distinguished themselves with these lawsuits. I will assume that both the B1G and SEC are smarter than the ACC and have venue clauses in their agreements to prevent the ridiculous litigation in 3 states that we saw. Still, litigious partners are not reliable partners, and I can see how each school created image issues for themselves. I seriously doubt any other conference views either school as a bad-*** because of their litigation tactics like so many message board fans seem to think.
For ND- any conference in the US will take them if they want to go- but is there enough incentive with the new 14 or 16 team playoff for them to even consider going to a conference? Not seeing it.
UNC can write their ticket if they want out, both the B1G and SEC will gladly take them. NC State is just not that attractive, though- not goo enough on the field/court and solid but not spectacular academically.
I am not seeing this allure of UVA, but the conferences do, so they can also go if they want, to whichever conference they select IMO.
Va Tech is different- they are well thought of by us, but not a prize for the conferences. Sucks to be them.
Ga Tech is a tough add- UGA controls Georgia even when Tech is good, and Tech is just in a tough market where they don't add enough to get eyeballs. Yes, they had a great viewership number in one game this year and a good number against us, but put them on at 10:30 eastern time against Cal and nobody is watching.
Miami's future depends on how much we win. Continue winning 10-13 games a year and getting the ratings we got last year and someone will want us. I doubt it will be the SEC because of UF, but maybe we are more palatable than FSU for them, and if it comes down to preventing the B1G from having control of Florida then perspectives can change, fast. I still see B1G (despite that moron Genetics continuous spew of bull****) as being a better fit but we are at least 4 years away from knowing anything. if the new bball coach is what we think he is, we will also add to that number. Now, figure out a way to fix baseball and we're solid.

This guy gets IT. GREAT post
 
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Again, u r missing the point. Not one person has “cried” about anything. No one is complaining or in ur words “crying” about the outcome; it’s the peacocking like this was always the plan.

There’s something called happenstance, & u don’t get to peacock when happenstance takes presence as if bull**** wasn’t spewed this entire thread. We’re benefactors, just like the rest of the ACC b/c FSU & Clemson walked so we could all run.
I have openly wept Miami hasn't departed for the Sunbelt.

I have been consistent on this from Day 0.

Super Conference or bust as I'm not convinced (doesn't mean it won't happen) Miami is a take for either SEC or B1G in a limited expansion (say 2-3 teams each) next round. With that said, I would say Miami is a logical geographical flanking front for B1G against SEC, as would poaching aTm. Watch SMU in several years too.

I would submit IF Miami is taken by either SEC or B1G next round, a defacto duopoly Super Conference would have been created anyways.

Also, something tells me everyone is underestimating Yormark in BXII.
 
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Not "partner" in the sense of schools working in tandem, but more as brands and/or geographically-connected schools brought in as pairs.

Previous examples:

Texas + Oklahoma --> SEC

USC + UCLA --> B1G

Oregon + Washington --> B1G

I'm guessing we'll see the actual moves themselves completed by the summer of 2027 or '28:

ACC to B1G: UM+ND and Cal+Stanford

ACC to SEC: UVA+VT and UNC+NCSU and Clemson+fsu and Duke+GT

ACC to XII en masse: Louisville, Pitt, Syracuse, BC, SMU???

SOL: Wake
If you are correct I really hope dollars and conference don’t destroy the Miami-FSU rivalry.
 
There;s going to be movement, but not seeing some of these moves: The SEC has added only large, land-grant state schools over the last 14 years. Texas is the only addition that was surprising, and only surprising because A&M didn't want them, which was thought to be a deal-breaker. The B1G has only added one private school over their expansion- USC, which is a great academic institution in addition to fielding good (let's be honest, they haven't been great in 30 years in football and are usually slightly above average in men's basketball). The rest were also land-grant state institutions who are mostly known for very good academics (not seeing that with Maryland or Rutgers, or even Oregon, but those may well be my biases).
With that in mind, Cal and Stanford are the obvious academic prizes. They aren't going to the SEC-neither party wants the other. The West Coast B1G schools will certainly want them, but will the west coast schools have enough influence to get everyone else to include them? I am not buying the argument that Fox Sports controls everything with expansion, if the B1G wants Cal and Stanford bad enough Fox will cave, there are just too many other alternatives for the B1G for television markets.
FSU and Clemson are the more accomplished athletic programs if we're being honest, but neither (FSU in particular) distinguished themselves with these lawsuits. I will assume that both the B1G and SEC are smarter than the ACC and have venue clauses in their agreements to prevent the ridiculous litigation in 3 states that we saw. Still, litigious partners are not reliable partners, and I can see how each school created image issues for themselves. I seriously doubt any other conference views either school as a bad-*** because of their litigation tactics like so many message board fans seem to think.
For ND- any conference in the US will take them if they want to go- but is there enough incentive with the new 14 or 16 team playoff for them to even consider going to a conference? Not seeing it.
UNC can write their ticket if they want out, both the B1G and SEC will gladly take them. NC State is just not that attractive, though- not goo enough on the field/court and solid but not spectacular academically.
I am not seeing this allure of UVA, but the conferences do, so they can also go if they want, to whichever conference they select IMO.
Va Tech is different- they are well thought of by us, but not a prize for the conferences. Sucks to be them.
Ga Tech is a tough add- UGA controls Georgia even when Tech is good, and Tech is just in a tough market where they don't add enough to get eyeballs. Yes, they had a great viewership number in one game this year and a good number against us, but put them on at 10:30 eastern time against Cal and nobody is watching.
Miami's future depends on how much we win. Continue winning 10-13 games a year and getting the ratings we got last year and someone will want us. I doubt it will be the SEC because of UF, but maybe we are more palatable than FSU for them, and if it comes down to preventing the B1G from having control of Florida then perspectives can change, fast. I still see B1G (despite that moron Genetics continuous spew of bull****) as being a better fit but we are at least 4 years away from knowing anything. if the new bball coach is what we think he is, we will also add to that number. Now, figure out a way to fix baseball and we're solid.
Miami needs a Bruce Pearl.
 
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