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Concern about the OL

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Ethnicsands said:
Not sure if you are changing the subject. I’m a fan of Enos. But whether our OL talent is what you describe, I’m skeptical. Just because you are paranoid doesn’t mean there aren’t still little green tree people following you.
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i find it amazing that middling teams are able to come out of nowhere and have effective offenses without half the talent we have on the line or at the skill positions. college is a lot of scheme and coaching up. hopefully we will see an improvement enough to make up for the oline not being the strongest.
 
itsacanething said:
i find it amazing that middling teams are able to come out of nowhere and have effective offenses without half the talent we have on the line or at the skill positions. college is a lot of scheme and coaching up. hopefully we will see an improvement enough to make up for the oline not being the strongest.
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Oh, I have no doubt we’ll see schematic improvement. Not sure why anyone has to bother say that. But people who jump from that to the argument our line talent is good are deluding themselves, imo. Just because Richt sucked doesnt mean we also dont have real talent and depth questions on OL.

We have one guy who looks like a real talented OL in Scaife. Gaynor is a tough kid who should be serviceable. Campbell and Reed, we’ll see if they’re ready this year. Just because they are decent prospects with bright futures doesn’t mean they’re going to look like good OL as true sophs with no experience. Donaldson is the wildcard. He is a big, powerful, talented kid with potential, but has regressed, and is maybe too big, and not athletic enough. If you want to see how Barry coaches, let’s see how Donaldson progresses. Behind those 5, we have scarely anything at all. A transfer who may not be ready for this level of competition, and a few guys who have shown little to nothing in Hillery, Herbert and Brown.
 
Our oline will be fine. It's not bc I think they will be great but bc they are going against the best DL (maybe defense overall) that they will see all regular season.

If we want to max out our offensive potential with an average oline the perfect scheme is the spread option. I don't see the I-Form ever being advantageous for us this year unless we are in a short yardage scenario. That 5 step drop, slow developing play sh*t is not going to work consistently. We need to spread the defense and RPO/zone read them to death.
 
There are posters who say there are no OL concerns despite fewer than 30 combined starts among all 13 scholarship OL on the team entering 2019.
 
FlaSportsFan88 said:
A true freshman who was 240 a couple of months ago getting first team reps

An unproven guard.

A guard proven to be a turnstile.

New center.

One clenched *******.
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This is why Martell will start, we need a QB who has escapability, he'll need it.
 
Ethnicsands said:
Im not saying the OL operates in a vacuum. I pointed out that if you use the ‘holistic’ argument to contend tht our OL will be good, because stars or whatever, you should prepare to be disappointed. Our OL is extremely thin, very inexperienced, and scant on proven talent.
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Offensive scheme was our biggest problem.....UCF is a good example...no big-time recruits at all.....just a big-time scheme...also teams like Memphis always put up big numbers with lower level recruits...gotta know your personnel
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If we can get average play from the OL it would be a huge improvement from last year. I'm not expecting us to have the best line in the ACC but we need to be greatly improved from last season.
 
I'm just glade the kid we trashed here is doing well and didn't read what Cane fans said about him......fans lolol

GOCANES
 
canes614 said:
Offensive scheme was our biggest problem.....UCF is a good example...no big-time recruits at all.....just a big-time scheme...also teams like Memphis always put up big numbers with lower level recruits...gotta know your personnel
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piggy backing on this point - hard to have not noticed the overuse of the RPO where the RB is next to the QB. the line would routinely collapse on the back from that formation. more motion, jet sweeps and whatever else teams do to get talented guys in space should go a long way in making up for some of the deficiencies should't it?
 
Who left the cupboard better stocked, Golden in 2016 or Rick in 2019?

2016:
Gall
Linder
Odogwu
Knighton
Isidora
McDermott
Darling
Mahoney
Jones
St. Louis
Gauthier
Milo

2019:
Brown
Donaldson
Gaynor
Herbert
Hillery
Dykstra
Scaife
Reed
Campbell
Kennedy
Nelson
Elgammal
Clark
 
rokulika said:
Who left the cupboard better stocked, Golden in 2016 or Rick in 2019?

2016:
Gall
Linder
Odogwu
Knighton
Isidora
McDermott
Darling
Mahoney
Jones
St. Louis
Gauthier
Milo

2019:
Brown
Donaldson
Gaynor
Herbert
Hillery
Dykstra
Scaife
Reed
Campbell
Kennedy
Nelson
Elgammal
Clark
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Bunch of JAGS on that first list from 2016...wow. I have the JAGS Bolded for reference, it's actually pretty close in comparison.
 
When you look at it like that, there’s only four OL on the roster right now that were 4-star prospects. Still enough talent to be at least average in the ACC.
 
Ethnicsands said:
Hope you’re right. But prepare to be disappointed. We have very few guys who are competent OL. It’s not just that our coaching made them look bad, though it did. It’s also we have evaluated poorly, recruited poorly, and developed poorly on OL. Let’s hope the few guys we got stay healthy.

IMO Scaife is a legit OL, Donaldson should be if he gets in shape, and Gaynor should be serviceable. Campbell and Reed have potential but there will be learning curve challenges. Beyond those guys it looks grim. Brown has shown nothing in his time at UM. Kennedy, hope he can adjust to the competition level. Dykstra lol. Hillery and Herbert, not a fan of those evaluations.
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Scaife belongs inside
 
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