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This tells me the recruiting rankings are wrong.

Or that Golden and staff are the worst in the country.

Lack of talent is not the problem facing Miami. The most underachieving coaching staff in the country is the problem.

If our average recruiting ranking is around 15th over the last 12 years, then the recruiting rankings are wrong based on how many of our players are in the pros. Maybe our rankings should have been higher. Which reinforces your point and doesn't bode well for our last 3 coaches.
 
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This tells me the recruiting rankings are wrong.

Or that Golden and staff are the worst in the country.

Lack of talent is not the problem facing Miami. The most underachieving coaching staff in the country is the problem.

If our average recruiting ranking is around 15th over the last 12 years, then the recruiting rankings are wrong based on how many of our players are in the pros. Maybe our rankings should have been higher. Which reinforces your point and doesn't bode well for our last 3 coaches.

Why don't you take a look at who our guys are in the pros. Most of them were highly ranked recruits.
 
NFL is also flooded with local guys that Folden missed on. It'll be even more flooded in the coming years.

This is why any good HC can succeed at UM. Even idiots like Folden acquire massive NFL talent by accident.
 
This tells me the recruiting rankings are wrong.

Or that Golden and staff are the worst in the country.

Lack of talent is not the problem facing Miami. The most underachieving coaching staff in the country is the problem.

If our average recruiting ranking is around 15th over the last 12 years, then the recruiting rankings are wrong based on how many of our players are in the pros. Maybe our rankings should have been higher. Which reinforces your point and doesn't bode well for our last 3 coaches.

Are recruiting rankings based on college potential, or by probability of making an NFL roster?
 
11 not 12 but still a very long time. How many of the 37 played for the school from 2005 and before?

This. Gore, Johnson, Moss is still kicking around I think, Olsen, Franklin, Campbell. That's just off the top of my head, more recently is Miller, James, Henderson, Vernon.
 
This tells me the recruiting rankings are wrong.

Or that Golden and staff are the worst in the country.

Lack of talent is not the problem facing Miami. The most underachieving coaching staff in the country is the problem.

If our average recruiting ranking is around 15th over the last 12 years, then the recruiting rankings are wrong based on how many of our players are in the pros. Maybe our rankings should have been higher. Which reinforces your point and doesn't bode well for our last 3 coaches.

Are recruiting rankings based on college potential, or by probability of making an NFL roster?

College potential.
Not all college systems fit the NFL, however, I would say the systems at Bama, Georgia, USC, ND and FSU do. They've all had a better average recruiting ranking (ND close?) than we've had over the last 12 years.
 
This tells me the recruiting rankings are wrong.

Or that Golden and staff are the worst in the country.

Lack of talent is not the problem facing Miami. The most underachieving coaching staff in the country is the problem.

If our average recruiting ranking is around 15th over the last 12 years, then the recruiting rankings are wrong based on how many of our players are in the pros. Maybe our rankings should have been higher. Which reinforces your point and doesn't bode well for our last 3 coaches.

Why don't you take a look at who our guys are in the pros. Most of them were highly ranked recruits.

I'm aware. I don't know what you're point is.
It's the same for Bama, FSU, LSU, Georgia, and FSU, no? MORE so called highly ranked recruits.
u Florida is just system failure.
 
Golden will win big this year. People just ignore the fact that we had QB injuries the last two years. That list is a bit skewed because after year 1 of Golden this team was at the bottom of the barrell for Miami talent wise.

Year 3 we could have salvaged a 10 win season but Stephen Morris got hurt in the middle of the season. And could not throw.

Year 4, we had a lot of talent obviously but we were also playing with a freshman qb, and although he had a very good statistical year.

He was not the leader yet that we needed him to be. He was also horrible on third down. But I have all the confidence now that he is the leader now and we will have a great year.

Golden has built the depth of this team now to the point where we will be dominant again. And be dominant for a long time like we were in the 80's.

If he doesn't win this year then yea something is wrong. And he probably should be fired but I just can't see how its going to happen. We will have a top qb in the nation and a top 10 defense.

So I'm excited.
 
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This **** makes me cry with tears

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This tells me the recruiting rankings are wrong.

Nope completely wrong. The recruiting rankings are not wrong. For the most part the have it down. The problem is golden and Co doesn't know how to use the talent they have. Golden has an eye for talent but can't seem to make it work on the field.
 
Golden will win big this year. People just ignore the fact that we had QB injuries the last two years. That list is a bit skewed because after year 1 of Golden this team was at the bottom of the barrell for Miami talent wise.

Year 3 we could have salvaged a 10 win season but Stephen Morris got hurt in the middle of the season. And could not throw.

Year 4, we had a lot of talent obviously but we were also playing with a freshman qb, and although he had a very good statistical year.

He was not the leader yet that we needed him to be. He was also horrible on third down. But I have all the confidence now that he is the leader now and we will have a great year.

Golden has built the depth of this team now to the point where we will be dominant again. And be dominant for a long time like we were in the 80's.

If he doesn't win this year then yea something is wrong. And he probably should be fired but I just can't see how its going to happen. We will have a top qb in the nation and a top 10 defense.

So I'm excited.


Eh.... I don't think most of us overlooked QB injuries. Even with said injuries, the fact is that we have played at a level significantly below our talent level. We had absolutely no business losing to Pitt, UVA and the rest of the trash heaps we've lost to under Golden. Like someone said, he has a decent eye for talent but can't make it work on Saturday.

The reason he can't make it work is simple. He really has no feel for game whatsoever. None. Zero. That and he has no idea what to do with talent. The only thing he knows is how to plug players into the antiquated schemes that Joe Pudd and Slambuttski hammered into them. He has a very narrow and rigid way of thinking therefore he is incapable of tailoring a system to suit his talent. He can't think outside of the box so he does the only thing he knows. He forces players into his scheme even if they don't fit.

Being located in Miami is a tremendous advantage for this program. There is so much freakish talent in the tri county area that it truly boggles the mind. He can luck into NFL talent just by opening his door in the morning. It truly doesn't matter how much the landscape of college football changes, with good coaching, UM should always be up there contending with the rest of the elite. Golden however being the rigid narrow minded simpleton that he is is the great equalizer. That buffoon and his staff of incompetents neutralize any advantage we otherwise may have had.
 
Firing Day is 84 away.

Time to board the Love Train.

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You can point out that UM players dominate NFL rosters, but those are just the stars. We never had the depth to compete with teams like Duke, Pitt, GT, VT and UVA.

Exactly. You don't just walk into Charlottesville and beat Virginia with Duke Johnson, Phil Dorsett, Clive Walford, Ereck Flowers, and the ACC leader in passing TD's. Rashawn Scott was hurt all last year and that's what did us in.

Lmfao...exactly ..always funny to watch people mis use the depth excuse
 
This tells me the recruiting rankings are wrong.

Or that Golden and staff are the worst in the country.

Lack of talent is not the problem facing Miami. The most underachieving coaching staff in the country is the problem.

If our average recruiting ranking is around 15th over the last 12 years, then the recruiting rankings are wrong based on how many of our players are in the pros. Maybe our rankings should have been higher. Which reinforces your point and doesn't bode well for our last 3 coaches.

Why don't you take a look at who our guys are in the pros. Most of them were highly ranked recruits.

I'm aware. I don't know what you're point is.
It's the same for Bama, FSU, LSU, Georgia, and FSU, no? MORE so called highly ranked recruits.
u Florida is just system failure.

You're not sure what my point is? How are the recruiting rankings "wrong" when most of our NfL guys were highly ranked recruits?

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Duke five star
Flowers four star
Chick four star
Dorsett four star
Walford three star
Miller four star
Vernon four star
Perryman four star
 
It's what you do in life that counts, not what you could've done.

Golden hasn't gotten it done here. The data have already spoken on this issue - quite loudly, actually.

Anything is possible, but history is a very good indicator of what a coach will (or won't) do in the future....

Golden will win big this year. People just ignore the fact that we had QB injuries the last two years. That list is a bit skewed because after year 1 of Golden this team was at the bottom of the barrell for Miami talent wise.

Year 3 we could have salvaged a 10 win season but Stephen Morris got hurt in the middle of the season. And could not throw.

Year 4, we had a lot of talent obviously but we were also playing with a freshman qb, and although he had a very good statistical year.

He was not the leader yet that we needed him to be. He was also horrible on third down. But I have all the confidence now that he is the leader now and we will have a great year.

Golden has built the depth of this team now to the point where we will be dominant again. And be dominant for a long time like we were in the 80's.

If he doesn't win this year then yea something is wrong. And he probably should be fired but I just can't see how its going to happen. We will have a top qb in the nation and a top 10 defense.

So I'm excited.
 
You can point out that UM players dominate NFL rosters, but those are just the stars. We never had the depth to compete with teams like Duke, Pitt, GT, VT and UVA.

Exactly. You don't just walk into Charlottesville and beat Virginia with Duke Johnson, Phil Dorsett, Clive Walford, Ereck Flowers, and the ACC leader in passing TD's. Rashawn Scott was hurt all last year and that's what did us in.

People think it is easy to go on the road and beat a coach that has had 4 out 5 losing seasons and 11 total wins in the ACC during his tenure at UVA.
 
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