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ben said:
Footballville said Young has not looked anywhere near that good in practice. And we know Mario has said he does not use games to experiment with playing time for guys who don’t produce in practice. I guess he’s a gamer but I’m hoping he takes strong game performance to improve his practice performance.
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Cribby has said this too.
 
OldhamA said:
Sadly I think all we have is possession receivers.

Nobody can take the top off the defence - I assume K. Smith is our fastest WR and the UNC DBs had no trouble running stride for stride with him.
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Teams play us like we got Tyreek Hill and Tory Holt.

We got guys who can go deep.

Our biggest problem is we don’t IMMEDIATELY get into a play to take a deep shot on the occasions they actually walk up the corners and safeties.

We will hit some of those for big plays and just as important it will make defenses play honest against the run. They are playing our run game way to aggressively. We got yards and looked better yesterday, but we need to inflict real pain for the overzealous run defense.
 
Canegrad89 said:
Young should play a lot. His upside is quite high. He looked significantly better than any WR we have (other than #5) & he likely has more NFL potential than any WR we have (which is important at the CFB level because it means he can impact games in our favor). We'd literally be shooting ourselves in the foot by keeping him on the bench due to antiquated notions that if he's not a Greentree AA, he shouldn't play. Those Greentree AA have been routinely dropping passes, failing to block effectively downfield & killing drives all season long. We are 2-3 as a result. Anyone that thinks that WR that run routes consistently in practice but drop the ball consistently in games should be playing over Young, don't know what they are looking at and shouldn't be coaching football.

Our #1 issue remains Red Zone scoring. The solution has been right in front of us all along. THROW THE BALL TO THE TALLEST TE & WR IN THE RED ZONE. At the beginning of the season we had, at minimum, Mallory, Arroyo, Skinner, Young, Ladson & Horton. Almost all of them are matchup problems for opponents. Let's start using them effectively and scoring points NOW instead of waiting for them to run every route perfectly on Greentree. For the rest of this year, let's also stop trying to "bro" the ball into the endzone against more talented defenses. IT IS NOT WORKING. DO THAT IN 1-2 YEARS WHEN OUR OL SHOULD BE DOMINANT -- IT SHOULD BE VERY POSSIBLE THEN. IT IS NOT NOW AND WE'RE LOSING BECAUSE WE INSIST ON TRYING TO DO THIS OVER & OVER. We all knew we didn't have the OL this year to bully people. We've had problems for the last couple of years gaining 2 yards when we absolutely needed it. It's either ego or stubbornness that's causing us to continue to try & muscle the ball in. Sure, execution issues happen that cause run plays not to work BUT this issue isn't about run play execution -- we just don't have the horses YET. The good news is they are on the way (inshallah). :)

What to do now in the Red Zone:

1) Throw to your tallest players until opponents prove they can stop it (see list above). I don't think many people can cover Skinner & Young effectively (especially on balls thrown high into the endzone).

2) Show run & then pass. Come out in run formation & sneak Khalil Brantley out in the flats. I think he could be another useful weapon for us that may catch people napping.

3) Come back to the run when: (i) everyone's expecting pass (after you've scored a bunch by passing) -- it will be much more effective; (ii) we have our best RBs back healthy (like Chaney); and (iii) Jacurri is ready to run some QB draws.

We should be decimating opponents using our taller players. We got the yardage this week (good job adjusting there) BUT NOW WE NEED TO SCORE POINTS. If I were Gattis, I'd have a whole week devoted mostly to five things:

(i) Red Zone offense -- until it's just automatic;
(ii) two minute drills;
(iii) meetings discussing ball security & situational adjustments (i.e., if you're Rooster & you've easily crossed the line for a first down late in the game, now put both hands on the ball & make that your primary focus in this critical spot. Don't need to fight for extra yardage or make a hero play there, just wrap that ball up tight & get a fresh set of downs to work with. His mission was accomplished on that play (by quite a few yards) so make securing that ball with both hands the #1 priority now. Side note: on ball security drills on Greentree, it looks like they're just going through the motions. I know they are trying to limit contact & injury but is that drill really effective? I honestly don't see the point of half-heartedly swiping at the ball and running across the field sideways. Is it working? I think not. Time to re-think the approach to ball security. It was a killa in the UNC game.
(iv) WR blocking (taught in a way that negates the potential for injury); and
(v) run blocking.

We had almost 500 yards passing so 24 pts is nowhere near good enough. The answers are:

(i) proper Asset Utilization (using only our best weapons in the Red Zone and creating mismatch problems out there consistently); and

(ii) playcalling (stop trying to muscle it in when you simply don't have the horses yet).

Go Canes.
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I came up with a brilliant plan to score TDs in the red zone, just need someone with connections to get this to Gattis. The way it works is that when there is a favorable matchup like a short LB or DB covering a tall receiver, we take those tall receivers and have them run towards the back corner of the end zone. Then the QB throws the ball really high up where the tall WR/TEs either catch it or it goes out of bounds. Pretty clever, eh? Can't believe no one has thought of this play before.
 
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I hope he plays a lot more because everyones favorite youtube pundit flow is heavily hinting that if Melo doesn't get more targets he is gonna transfer.
 
Guy is a straight up gamer and best news is we have him for 3 more years eligibility wise I believe
 
TimeBum said:
I came up with a brilliant plan to score TDs in the red zone, just need someone with connections to get this to Gattis. The way it works is that when there is a favorable matchup like a short LB or DB covering a tall receiver, we take those tall receivers and have them run towards the back corner of the end zone. Then the QB throws the ball really high up where the tall WR/TEs either catch it or it goes out of bounds. Pretty clever, eh? Can't believe no one has thought of this play before.
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If you first hand the ball to a RB who then pitches the ball back to the QB you might be on to something
 
TimeBum said:
I came up with a brilliant plan to score TDs in the red zone, just need someone with connections to get this to Gattis. The way it works is that when there is a favorable matchup like a short LB or DB covering a tall receiver, we take those tall receivers and have them run towards the back corner of the end zone. Then the QB throws the ball really high up where the tall WR/TEs either catch it or it goes out of bounds. Pretty clever, eh? Can't believe no one has thought of this play before.
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Which begs the question, why have we not been doing this in every game so far to Arroyo (when he was healthy), Mallory (who is a match-up problem), Skinner (6' 5"), Young & Ladson?

A lot of our red zone calls (prior to Young's emergence in the UNC game) have been run plays & throws to our shorter WRs:

  • Run, Run, Run, FG
  • QB draws with TVD that had zero chance of success
  • Throw to Brashard short of the end zone
  • Throw to Key Smith (some of those have worked)
  • Throw to Mallory (short of the end zone)

If what we drew up in this thread is so simple, why hasn't it been done to date? Our red zone scoring has been terrible. There needs to be a dramatic shift in playcalling in the red zone.
 
calinative umstudent said:
3 catches for 43 yards and yall acting like we've been sitting Andre Johnson lol.
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Considering he was thrown to only 3 times and only on one drive, it's more impressive than a box score shows. You also left out the TD that he caught in which he used his big frame to create more separation on good coverage than I've seen from anybody else in the WR room. We don't need Dre, we just need a competent WR.
 
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