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I thought the same thing, OP.

I too am really excited to see him play this year. He's one of those guys that I believe coaching and scheme have affected. You get the sense that if he had chosen to go elsewhere, we'd be starting threads about how it is we lost him and why we can't keep 5* local talent at home. Instead, he has 19 catches in 2 years.
 
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The Franchise said:
I never bought the playbook grasping nonsense. He's a very bright kid with a solid GPA. I'm sure he can learn these dopey plays we've been running.
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I believe Pope struggles are physical. It affected what he could do and by extension the confidence coaches had in him and he had in himself.
 
Liberty City El said:
Fake news.

Never quit on Miami once, just made up CIS rumors because people on here hate him.

People don't even know what that Tweet is about, but because Pope tweeted it everyone will be foaming at the mouth to bash him for no reason.
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When a highly ranked receiver isn’t Tory Holt as a true freshman, he is garbage according to the logic of many of our fans.
 
troycbullock said:
I believe Pope struggles are physical. It affected what he could do and by extension the confidence coaches had in him and he had in himself.
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There are ways to get undersized guys the ball in space.

There are ways to get smaller receivers open.

But this is Miami. Our coaches don’t believe in scheming to the skill sets of their players. They have to prove their football genius by forcing players to operate under rigid, dogmatic philosophies.
 
TruCane81 said:
There are ways to get undersized guys the ball in space.

There are ways to get smaller receivers open.

But this is Miami. Our coaches don’t believe in scheming to the skill sets of their players. They have to prove their football genius by forcing players to operate under rigid, dogmatic philosophies.
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Mark is arguably the twitchiest WR we have. Let's get him the ball in space and see if he can produce some explosive plays.
 
TruCane81 said:
There are ways to get undersized guys the ball in space.

There are ways to get smaller receivers open.

But this is Miami. Our coaches don’t believe in scheming to the skill sets of their players. They have to prove their football genius by forcing players to operate under rigid, dogmatic philosophies.
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Pope isn’t undersized. Isn’t he 6’0? IMO, he hasn’t been putting that work in the weight room. He has proven easy to tackle and doesn’t look any more explosive than he was in HS. Pope has more talent then say Harley, yet at this point, Harley is a better player. Why? They were both operating under the same scheme
 
troycbullock said:
Pope isn’t undersized. Isn’t he 6’0? IMO, he hasn’t been putting that work in the weight room. He has proven easy to tackle and doesn’t look any more explosive than he was in HS. Pope has more talent then say Harley, yet at this point, Harley is a better player. Why? They were both operating under the same scheme
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Harley is faster, more physical and has a year more experience.

Funny thing you bring Harley up. He is highly maligned by many fans. He didn’t exactly set the world on fire last year. He suffered under our poor offensive coordinating as anyone else.

They will both be more productive in Lashlee’s offense.

Once the guys get some confidence and momentum, you will see ALL OF THEM make bigger plays and not go down so easy.

Teams in a funk caused by poor leadership have a tendency to tackle themselves and trip over blades of grass. Lashlee’s will improve morale for the unit as a whole. There will be fewer of those weak plays.
 
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TruCane81 said:
There are ways to get undersized guys the ball in space.

There are ways to get smaller receivers open.

But this is Miami. Our coaches don’t believe in scheming to the skill sets of their players. They have to prove their football genius by forcing players to operate under rigid, dogmatic philosophies.
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yOu hAvE to lEarN tHe PrO sTYle pLaYbO0k
 
TruCane81 said:
There are ways to get undersized guys the ball in space.

There are ways to get smaller receivers open.

But this is Miami. Our coaches don’t believe in scheming to the skill sets of their players. They have to prove their football genius by forcing players to operate under rigid, dogmatic philosophies.
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Just saw a guy wearing #48 as a true freshman back in 1997 who was "undersized", yet caught 14 passes in 8 games for 269 yrds (19.2 ypc) b/c the coaches gave him some room to use his speed. Guy name was Santana Moss. Again, not sure we're all these excuses are coming from, but we forget our greatness. We forget we had Moss, Baby Moss, Roscoe Parrish who were all undersized and we got them drafted in the 1st two rounds. Hopefully we can see Pope take full advantage of the new scheme.
 
Liberty City El said:
Fake news.

Never quit on Miami once, just made up CIS rumors because people on here hate him.

People don't even know what that Tweet is about, but because Pope tweeted it everyone will be foaming at the mouth to bash him for no reason.
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I wouldn't say quit but he did needed to be talked off the ledge. Cooney got to him. @The Franchise
 
TruCane81 said:
Harley is faster, more physical and has a year more experience.

Funny thing you bring Harley up. He is highly maligned by many fans. He didn’t exactly set the world on fire last year. He suffered under our poor offensive coordinating as anyone else.

They will both be more productive in Lashlee’s offense

Once the guys get some confidence and momentum, you will see ALL OF THEM make bigger plays and not go down so easy.

Teams in a funk caused by poor leadership have a tendency to tackle themselves and trip over blades of grass. Lashlee’s will improve morale for the unit as a whole. There will be fewer of those weak plays.
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You are right, Harley did struggle early but he did something to improve his game while under the same leadership, coaching and scheme. BTW, despite Harley being known for speed, he doesn’t play fast on the field. He isn’t explosive and doesn’t run away from defenders. Despite that, has done well to carve out a niche for himself. I believe Pope has vastly superior athleticism to Harley, I really do hope he takes the leap
 
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troycbullock said:
You are right, Harley did struggle early but he did something to improve his game while under the same leadership, coaching and scheme. BTW, despite Harley being known for speed, he doesn’t play fast on the field. He isn’t explosive and doesn’t run away from defenders. Despite that, has done well to carve out a niche for himself. I believe Pope has vastly superior athleticism to Harley, I really do hope he takes the leap
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Harley and Pope are kinda similar stature wise. That extra year gives Harley an edge. Harley is a good athlete who struggled with hands and confidence early on. Our poor offensive coaching and quarterbacking didn’t help.

I think Harley is closer to the guy who broke that long touchdown against Louisville than to a bust.

Remember people were saying Braxton Berrios didn’t play like his 4.4 speed. All he did was become a Hurricane legend his senior year.

We desperately need the coaching staff to create an atmosphere of competence, hard work, and accountability. The accountability includes the coaching staff. They have to design plays specifically for the guys on hand. No more of the hopes and dreams bullshyt.

We were an effective offense when we did this. The bottom fell out because we didn’t build on what worked.

I keep going back to the under center, 3 step drop slant Pope caught against Florida. Teams gave us those underneath routes all game early in the season, but we didn’t use them effectively and the offense got bogged down.

Once they realized we couldn’t block and Enos couldn’t effectively call an offense on the fly, they gambled to take away the short stuff and squeezed the life out of us.

That should have never happened. With a better designed scheme and playcalling, we had everything we needed to be more productive. But we destroyed team morale setting the team up to fail and then arrogantly throwing them under the bus. When it fell apart, it completely fell apart.

It’s the 10-80-10 rule.The players need to work harder. But they need the leadership from the staff to believe that the work will pay off. The leaders bring if regardless. It’s the 80 percenters whowill make or break you. We haven’t had a staff that properly leads 80%ers for a long time.
 
TruCane81 said:
Harley and Pope are kinda similar stature wise. That extra year gives Harley an edge. Harley is a good athlete who struggled with hands and confidence early on. Our poor offensive coaching and quarterbacking didn’t help.

I think Harley is closer to the guy who broke that long touchdown against Louisville than to a bust.

Remember people were saying Braxton Berrios didn’t play like his 4.4 speed. All he did was become a Hurricane legend his senior year.

We desperately need the coaching staff to create an atmosphere of competence, hard work, and accountability. The accountability includes the coaching staff. They have to design plays specifically for the guys on hand. No more of the hopes and dreams bullshyt.

We were an effective offense when we did this. The bottom fell out because we didn’t build on what worked.

I keep going back to the under center, 3 step drop slant Pope caught against Florida. Teams gave us those underneath routes all game early in the season, but we didn’t use them effectively and the offense got bogged down.

Once they realized we couldn’t block and Enos couldn’t effectively call an offense on the fly, they gambled to take away the short stuff and squeezed the life out of us.

That should have never happened. With a better designed scheme and playcalling, we had everything we needed to be more productive. But we destroyed team morale setting the team up to fail and then arrogantly throwing them under the bus. When it fell apart, it completely fell apart.

It’s the 10-80-10 rule.The players need to work harder. But they need the leadership from the staff to believe that the work will pay off. The leaders bring if regardless. It’s the 80 percenters whowill make or break you. We haven’t had a staff that properly leads 80%ers for a long time.
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There is one thing that I took away from the Jordan Documentary that reinforced what I believe about player accountability. Jordan was going to be Jordan. In other words, Jordan was going to put that work in regardless to be the best. Yes, coaching and schemes matter, but the best teams have players that want to be the best and work and prepare to be the best regardless. We have simply had too many kids that were happy to be at the U and were not focused on competing at the highest levels.
 
troycbullock said:
There is one thing that I took away from the Jordan Documentary that reinforced what I believe about player accountability. Jordan was going to be Jordan. In other words, Jordan was going to put that work in regardless to be the best. Yes, coaching and schemes matter, but the best teams have players that want to be the best and work and prepare to be the best regardless. We have simply had too many kids that were happy to be at the U and were not focused on competing at the highest levels.
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You made my point for me.

Jordan isn’t a 10%. He is like a 0.0001%. EXTREMELY self driven. He carried his team for years.

But when the Bulls got the right head coach, the atmosphere became such that his leadership and infectious competitiveness could raise the play of his peers.

When the leadership is weak in coaching, the leadership of the most dialed in players falls on deaf ears. They don’t have an infrastructure to back them up.

There is a lot of talk on here about how if this team had players who were leaders, they would whip the slackers into shape. They say the old teams would kick your *** if you got out of line. That doesn’t work on a team with weak coaching. I know first hand. All it does is fracture the locker room.

The only time player leaders can carry a weak head coach is if there is a coaching change and the old head coach taught them the right way to compete. The leaders will carry those skills and keep guys in line. But as leaders leave and new guys come, the atmosphere of the new, weak head coach will take over and performance will decline.
 
When you show support like this are you showing favoritism? Would he have said this to any other scholarship receivers on the team? Or would it be more appropriate to show support by reaching out to the young man and having a conversation? I always worried about showing favoritism to a player which sometimes leads to a divide.
 
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