CMR on the playbook

[WG_Dawg]

If I had to pick a second favorite team it would be UGA because I am from Georgia and hate Ga. Tech. WG Dawg, I think you're going to be in for a tough season if Eason isn't the second coming of Jameis Winston and Winston didn't even play as a true freshman. True freshmen don't do well in the SEC. If Lambert is your starter, you're in trouble. UNC, Ole ****, Tennessee and Florida are going to give you ****. Auburn may by the end of the year. You took the OC from Pittsburgh and that's not saying much since we curb stomped them in Pittsburgh last year with a TE coach coaching our team on the interim level. Your D may be OK, but your O is going to suffer. I don't see you winning 10 games this year. Just my viewpoint but it's valid. Kirby is going to feel the heat real quick.

The thing is that I, and I can't speak for anyone but myself, am realistic and I know this season will come with growing pains. I am tentiatively predicting a 9-3 regular season. Could be 8-4, could be 11-1. Who knows? But I certainly expect some speed bumps. TFr QB, questions about Chubb, thin DL, questions at WR, brand new coaching staff....we aren't winning any titles this year. But who cares? It's year one. Also look at who we've had at QB since Murray in 13. Hutson Mason (do yall even know who that is?) adn Greyson Lambert, who is dog ****. It won't take much for us to improve our QB play over last year even with a TFr.

Thing about chaney is he's never had the resources that he has now. Certainly not at pitt, not at arkansas, not at UT, not purdue. And ya know what? There ain't no way on God's green earth he could be any worse than schottenheimer, who I think may be one of the worst coordinators we've ever had.

As for feeling the heat, no way. the way SFLA has rallied around richt, the state of GA has rallied as much around smart. Hometown guy, played college ball here, was an assistant coach here, and now takes over as head man. He isn't going to feel the slightest bit of heat for at least 4 or 5 years which gives him enough time to get a full roster of his own players.

 

[WG_Dawg]

"They went out on a very limp limb in hiring a guy HOPING he's the next Saban"

It has literally nothing to do with wanting to be the next saban. Guess what? There is no "next saban". The guy is a top 3 or 4 coach in CFB history. What we DO hope is to be competitive again in our own league (which we haven't for a decade), make the BCS again (which we haven't since the 07 season), and quit getting absolutely stomped out once or twice a year like we have almost every season since 07.

Don't really think that's a lot to ask.

You can blame your AD for that.

Brother you don't have to tell me about our AD, he's one of the most hated men in athens by people who actually care about our athletics aside from just football. He's a bum who doesnt' have a clue. I can't wait til we get rid of that ****.

 

[HulkaCaniac]

I don't blame Georgia for firing Richt. To say the relationship had grown stale is an understatement. The problem with winning is that the expectations grow. Richt help take Georgia from an SEC also ran to a pretty consistent contender. I guess they hope Smart can help them make the next jump. I won't crap on their hire as sometimes you need to take risks to win big. The downside is they could end up worse off and right back where they were before hiring Mark Richt.

Funny how expectations work. I can remember a time that if Miami didn't win a national title, I considered the season a failure. Now, I'd be stoked with 10 wins and an ACC runner up finish. Not as long term goals but for the immediate future, I'd more than settle for that.

You're exactly right. In the 90s we'd give our left arm to just win the east. Then Richt brought us to new heights where just winning 10 games doesnt' cut it, and we actually need to win something of importance. Your expecations shift over time, which is natural and there's nothign wrong wtih it.

 

[WG_Dawg]

Did you just make that meme? Bc richt is definitely better than an "8-4 coach".

 

[JgDaCane]

"They went out on a very limp limb in hiring a guy HOPING he's the next Saban"

It has literally nothing to do with wanting to be the next saban. Guess what? There is no "next saban". The guy is a top 3 or 4 coach in CFB history. What we DO hope is to be competitive again in our own league (which we haven't for a decade), make the BCS again (which we haven't since the 07 season), and quit getting absolutely stomped out once or twice a year like we have almost every season since 07.

Don't really think that's a lot to ask.

You can blame your AD for that.

Brother you don't have to tell me about our AD, he's one of the most hated men in athens by people who actually care about our athletics aside from just football. He's a bum who doesnt' have a clue. I can't wait til we get rid of that ****.

Kirby will be fired in 3 years. I'll mail you 100$ bill if im wrong.

 

[GODsRebel]

Tell me what UGA fans thought of Richt when he was calling plays and "coaching" as CMR puts it. We're in good hands....thanks UGA

 

[WG_Dawg]

"They went out on a very limp limb in hiring a guy HOPING he's the next Saban"

It has literally nothing to do with wanting to be the next saban. Guess what? There is no "next saban". The guy is a top 3 or 4 coach in CFB history. What we DO hope is to be competitive again in our own league (which we haven't for a decade), make the BCS again (which we haven't since the 07 season), and quit getting absolutely stomped out once or twice a year like we have almost every season since 07.

Don't really think that's a lot to ask.

You can blame your AD for that.

Brother you don't have to tell me about our AD, he's one of the most hated men in athens by people who actually care about our athletics aside from just football. He's a bum who doesnt' have a clue. I can't wait til we get rid of that ****.

Kirby will be fired in 3 years. I'll mail you 100$ bill if im wrong.

You're an idiot but I'll gladly take your money. I waited 4 years here to make my first post, believe me I'm not above waiting 3 years to bring up this post again.

 

[WG_Dawg]

Tell me what UGA fans thought of Richt when he was calling plays and "coaching" as CMR puts it. We're in good hands....thanks UGA

Well, in 2001 most fans felt a lot about richt the way we currently do about Smart. A guy who was a coordinator at one of the premier programs of the last decade, used to winning multiple national titles, extremely highly decorated on his side of the ball. Both the same age as well. We were coming off of 8 wins a year under Donnan but he constantly lost to UF/UT/GT which are obvious no-nos. So we were excited for a change.

Richt called plays early on and that generally went well. I will say, that from 01-04 our offense was bailed out NUMEROUS times by vandorder's incredible defense. He doens't get near enough credit. UGA gave up 30 points ONE time in those 4 years, and it was in the 03 SECCG. And it's a good thing, because a lot of times our offense didnt' do too much. To be fair, several times they just had a game where everything clicked and we looked like we could beat the patriots.

I guess to answer your question...01-06 (when richt was calling plays) was the best part of his tenure, but it's also worth pointing out that it was BY FAR the best defenses we've had as well. So, read into that what you will. One thing that was very obvious was that the attitude of the program changed. When richt came in he brough the mat drills from FSU and the "finish the drill" slogan and everyone bought in. Watch a UGA game from last year compared to 02. Other than the jersey you'd never know they were the same program.

I know he's older now, but the early UM years for Richt I expect a lot of energy, renewed optimism, hustle, and success sooner rather than later. He also went 13-2 against GT so that should be an autowin. Woulnd't be surprised with a 9-3 regular season in '16.

 

[Sigma_Cane_7]

Will the offense he runs be like his time at FSU or UGA (when he called plays)? Were they the same style?

 

[The Franchise]

Will the offense he runs be like his time at FSU or UGA (when he called plays)? Were they the same style?

Watch the spring game. That's what his offense will be like.

 

[Golsen82]

Will the offense he runs be like his time at FSU or UGA (when he called plays)? Were they the same style?

mostly like his fsu days i believe. wanted that same offense at GA but wasnt allowed to run it

 

[WG_Dawg]

Will the offense he runs be like his time at FSU or UGA (when he called plays)? Were they the same style?

mostly like his fsu days i believe. wanted that same offense at GA but wasnt allowed to run it

His first year he tried to bring the exact same hurry up, no huddle offense he ran at FSU. About halfway thorugh teh year Phil Fulmer complained to the league office and from then on we weren't given near as much leeway. Fulmer's complaint was that the defense didnt' have enough time to sub. That crybaby.

Anyway to answer your question, I dont' really know but I imagine now that he has more freedom he'll revert back to the FSU type offense. Richt adapted early in his tenure to suit the SEC. This isn't meant to start a ****ing match but in teh SEC the best way to thrive is with a dominant running game and stout defense, and we moved towards that over time. At Miami, and espeically with BK at QB, I imagine he'll open things up considerably.

 

[Footballhelmet]

A lot of people on here dont understand that getting CMR is a blessing from God.

Yes it is. If Richt hadn't been available we were stuck with a set of clowns. The administration likely would have gone back to the Larry Coker coaching tree and hired either Chudzinski or Cristobal. Even though it turned out awful when we went to the Coker coaching tree in 2006 and hired Shannon. And Shannon was the best assistant under Coker, far better than Chudzinski.

Can somebody explain to me how we fired Coker in 2006, and nearly wound up hiring his ex assistants as 66.7% of his successors. Because I don't understand it at all. After Chudzinski or Cristobal got fired as Miami coach who would we have turned to next? One of the assistants Coker fired after the Peach Bowl? Would we turn to former Shannon assistants since Coker assistants would be too old at that point?

Even the guys outside the Larry Coker coaching tree who were rumored were awful coaches. Look at those candidates: Mike Shula, Charlie Strong, Tommy Tuberville, Greg Schiano. Basically a who's who of coaches that no other Power 5 team would consider under any circumstances.

 

[Footballhelmet]

You can't reveal too much of the playbook. Because then the opponent can plan against you too much.

 

[Bigtip]

UGA before richt was a mid tier sec school with one mnc since ww2

After richt they began to think they are better than they actually are. After a few years of Kirby they will remember what it was like in the 90s

 

[Footballhelmet]

Tell me what UGA fans thought of Richt when he was calling plays and "coaching" as CMR puts it. We're in good hands....thanks UGA

Well, in 2001 most fans felt a lot about richt the way we currently do about Smart. A guy who was a coordinator at one of the premier programs of the last decade, used to winning multiple national titles, extremely highly decorated on his side of the ball. Both the same age as well. We were coming off of 8 wins a year under Donnan but he constantly lost to UF/UT/GT which are obvious no-nos. So we were excited for a change.

Richt called plays early on and that generally went well. I will say, that from 01-04 our offense was bailed out NUMEROUS times by vandorder's incredible defense. He doens't get near enough credit. UGA gave up 30 points ONE time in those 4 years, and it was in the 03 SECCG. And it's a good thing, because a lot of times our offense didnt' do too much. To be fair, several times they just had a game where everything clicked and we looked like we could beat the patriots.

I guess to answer your question...01-06 (when richt was calling plays) was the best part of his tenure, but it's also worth pointing out that it was BY FAR the best defenses we've had as well. So, read into that what you will. One thing that was very obvious was that the attitude of the program changed. When richt came in he brough the mat drills from FSU and the "finish the drill" slogan and everyone bought in. Watch a UGA game from last year compared to 02. Other than the jersey you'd never know they were the same program.

I know he's older now, but the early UM years for Richt I expect a lot of energy, renewed optimism, hustle, and success sooner rather than later. He also went 13-2 against GT so that should be an autowin. Woulnd't be surprised with a 9-3 regular season in '16.

Richt did better early in his career as an active coach. Then around 2006 the AD forced him to be a more CEO coach. His results slipped as a result. The AD wound up firing him since Richt did what the AD told him to do. As absurd as that sounds.

 

[ThomasM]

That's just it, with Kaaya. When you have a top 10 draft pick at QB, you want them to go out there and make as many plays as possible, not slow the game down so they can make less of an impact. So I agree, I think we'll see many more plays a game than we've seen for years at UM.

Will the offense he runs be like his time at FSU or UGA (when he called plays)? Were they the same style?

mostly like his fsu days i believe. wanted that same offense at GA but wasnt allowed to run it

His first year he tried to bring the exact same hurry up, no huddle offense he ran at FSU. About halfway thorugh teh year Phil Fulmer complained to the league office and from then on we weren't given near as much leeway. Fulmer's complaint was that the defense didnt' have enough time to sub. That crybaby.

Anyway to answer your question, I dont' really know but I imagine now that he has more freedom he'll revert back to the FSU type offense. Richt adapted early in his tenure to suit the SEC. This isn't meant to start a ****ing match but in teh SEC the best way to thrive is with a dominant running game and stout defense, and we moved towards that over time. At Miami, and espeically with BK at QB, I imagine he'll open things up considerably.

 

[WG_Dawg]

UGA before richt was a mid tier sec school with one mnc since ww2

After richt they began to think they are better than they actually are. After a few years of Kirby they will remember what it was like in the 90s

The 90s was one of our worst decades that included several losing seasons, no championships of any variety, and a high water mark of 10 wins and a citrus bowl. If you look at the entirety of our program, the 90s were the exception not the norm.

 

[obcanes]

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One interesting comment from Richt about the Shallow Cross Series:

… Coach Richt replied that he used to think it was easy to make the play work. However in reality and with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight it was special players like Charlie Ward and Warrick Dunn that made it so effective in the past. Also he thought the best defense versus the play is a Cover 2 scheme which is now so common. This defensive alignment often makes the play essentially just a Hi / Low “Smash Route” type read to just half the field versus the flat defender. This adjustment can be accomplished either on the front side or back side with minor alterations to the play call. Still the Shallow Cross is a very effective play but not quite what it used to be in the past. Also Coach Richt conjectured that many defensive coordinators down South learned not to blitz the play (he wishes they would however) as that gave up many big gains and easy TD’s in the past.

How much of Richt's offense is the shallow cross and what has he done to adapt to the response by the defense?

 

[Golsen82]

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One interesting comment from Richt about the Shallow Cross Series:

… Coach Richt replied that he used to think it was easy to make the play work. However in reality and with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight it was special players like Charlie Ward and Warrick Dunn that made it so effective in the past. Also he thought the best defense versus the play is a Cover 2 scheme which is now so common. This defensive alignment often makes the play essentially just a Hi / Low “Smash Route” type read to just half the field versus the flat defender. This adjustment can be accomplished either on the front side or back side with minor alterations to the play call. Still the Shallow Cross is a very effective play but not quite what it used to be in the past. Also Coach Richt conjectured that many defensive coordinators down South learned not to blitz the play (he wishes they would however) as that gave up many big gains and easy TD’s in the past.

How much of Richt's offense is the shallow cross and what has he done to adapt to the response by the defense?

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