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Love it...I've always felt we should implement another combat sport in our conditioning.
It does happen, but it is still very dumb for the athletes and especially dumb for the coaches who sanction it.
https://www.sbnation.com/longform/2...ile-florida-state-football-nfl-rhodes-scholar
...During workouts the next summer for the Seminole football team, Rolle didn't fit in. Many of his teammates came from difficult backgrounds, where their families had to choose between buying food and keeping the lights on. Now, Rolle had to adjust from having teammates with yachts to those who as kids regularly ate bread and mayonnaise for lunch. Even while at FSU, some players sent portions of their scholarship money home to help support their families. Since the dining plan covered only a certain number of meals, sometimes players were left with not enough to eat at the end of the week. Looking back, Rolle realizes he had no idea how to conduct himself around them, tucking his shirt, wearing glasses and using, as he puts it, "proper speech."
His teammates didn't see a football player, they saw a nerd, a square. "They thought I was soft," Rolle recalls. "A lot of them thought I was this little goody two-shoes kind of dude." Reflecting on the social dynamic, Rolle believes he was a prime target for the same kind of bullying and hazing that Jonathan Martin of the Miami Dolphins underwent in the NFL. Fortunately, FSU's strong leaders prevented such unchecked behavior.
But Rolle also recognizes that he had the responsibility to assert himself. As he wrote in a recent op-ed for The Guardian about the Martin incident, "I refused to have my self-worth depreciated." When asked Rolle how he earned his teammates' respect, he told a story that reminded me of something he said about the Martin situation. "If someone calls out your name ... then you need to check that."
At the conclusion of the workouts in the sweltering Florida heat, the coaches had players running 110-yard sprints. "We had got up to running thirty-two 110s," recalled Toddrick Verdell, Rolle's teammate at the time. Then, in a team building exercise, the coaches made a deal with the players. If two players agreed to box (while wearing proper safety equipment), the entire squad would run fewer 110s. As added motivation, whoever volunteered to box was allowed to select his opponent.
One day, as Rolle gasped for air, soaked in sweat, his legs limp as wet noodles after running about two dozen 110s, a coach yelled, "Anyone want to box?" Marcus Sims, a 233-pound, boulder-shaped halfback, volunteered to fight. When he called out "I want three," Rolle's number, everyone knew why. Sims wanted to find out what Rolle was made of.
So did the rest of the team, which responded en masse with a collective, playground-like "Ooooooooh," dramatizing the atmosphere of the showdown. As Verdell remembered "The upperclassmen are thinking he's this nerdy, prep-type smart guy, so they're thinking he's gonna get knocked out ‘cause Marcus is this strong, muscled big guy." It was a contest with almost mythic connotations: strong versus smart, big versus not-quite-as-big, the leader of the pack against the newcomer.
But Rolle had been anticipating this day and used his intelligence to design a plan. An inexperienced fighter, he prepared by watching clips of Muhammad Ali on YouTube, studying what made him an effective boxer. When Sims not only called out Myron's number, but said, directly, "I want to fight you," Myron was prepared. This was the day his teammates would learn that Myron Rolle, the Hun school grad with the tucked-in shirt and the heavy class load, was no nerd.
"He whooped his *** pretty good," Verdell chuckled.
"I killed him," Rolle matter-of-factly recalls. "That was like my testing, you know? My ritual. I had to pass a test." Rolle had first proven himself in a new country, then with the trust fund crowd and now a college locker room filled with future NFL players, demonstrating the ability to fit in with anyone. But Myron didn't just want to fit in with future NFL stars, he wanted to be one .
It does happen, but it is still very dumb for the athletes and especially dumb for the coaches who sanction it.
https://www.sbnation.com/longform/2...ile-florida-state-football-nfl-rhodes-scholar
...During workouts the next summer for the Seminole football team, Rolle didn't fit in. Many of his teammates came from difficult backgrounds, where their families had to choose between buying food and keeping the lights on. Now, Rolle had to adjust from having teammates with yachts to those who as kids regularly ate bread and mayonnaise for lunch. Even while at FSU, some players sent portions of their scholarship money home to help support their families. Since the dining plan covered only a certain number of meals, sometimes players were left with not enough to eat at the end of the week. Looking back, Rolle realizes he had no idea how to conduct himself around them, tucking his shirt, wearing glasses and using, as he puts it, "proper speech."
His teammates didn't see a football player, they saw a nerd, a square. "They thought I was soft," Rolle recalls. "A lot of them thought I was this little goody two-shoes kind of dude." Reflecting on the social dynamic, Rolle believes he was a prime target for the same kind of bullying and hazing that Jonathan Martin of the Miami Dolphins underwent in the NFL. Fortunately, FSU's strong leaders prevented such unchecked behavior.
But Rolle also recognizes that he had the responsibility to assert himself. As he wrote in a recent op-ed for The Guardian about the Martin incident, "I refused to have my self-worth depreciated." When asked Rolle how he earned his teammates' respect, he told a story that reminded me of something he said about the Martin situation. "If someone calls out your name ... then you need to check that."
At the conclusion of the workouts in the sweltering Florida heat, the coaches had players running 110-yard sprints. "We had got up to running thirty-two 110s," recalled Toddrick Verdell, Rolle's teammate at the time. Then, in a team building exercise, the coaches made a deal with the players. If two players agreed to box (while wearing proper safety equipment), the entire squad would run fewer 110s. As added motivation, whoever volunteered to box was allowed to select his opponent.
One day, as Rolle gasped for air, soaked in sweat, his legs limp as wet noodles after running about two dozen 110s, a coach yelled, "Anyone want to box?" Marcus Sims, a 233-pound, boulder-shaped halfback, volunteered to fight. When he called out "I want three," Rolle's number, everyone knew why. Sims wanted to find out what Rolle was made of.
So did the rest of the team, which responded en masse with a collective, playground-like "Ooooooooh," dramatizing the atmosphere of the showdown. As Verdell remembered "The upperclassmen are thinking he's this nerdy, prep-type smart guy, so they're thinking he's gonna get knocked out ‘cause Marcus is this strong, muscled big guy." It was a contest with almost mythic connotations: strong versus smart, big versus not-quite-as-big, the leader of the pack against the newcomer.
But Rolle had been anticipating this day and used his intelligence to design a plan. An inexperienced fighter, he prepared by watching clips of Muhammad Ali on YouTube, studying what made him an effective boxer. When Sims not only called out Myron's number, but said, directly, "I want to fight you," Myron was prepared. This was the day his teammates would learn that Myron Rolle, the Hun school grad with the tucked-in shirt and the heavy class load, was no nerd.
"He whooped his *** pretty good," Verdell chuckled.
"I killed him," Rolle matter-of-factly recalls. "That was like my testing, you know? My ritual. I had to pass a test." Rolle had first proven himself in a new country, then with the trust fund crowd and now a college locker room filled with future NFL players, demonstrating the ability to fit in with anyone. But Myron didn't just want to fit in with future NFL stars, he wanted to be one .
Myron Rolle is BAHAMIAN. As nerdy as he is..he had to take lumps over there..we all can fight.
This Happens in EVERY LOCKER ROOM ive ever been in.
It does happen, but it is still very dumb for the athletes and especially dumb for the coaches who sanction it.
https://www.sbnation.com/longform/2...ile-florida-state-football-nfl-rhodes-scholar
...During workouts the next summer for the Seminole football team, Rolle didn't fit in. Many of his teammates came from difficult backgrounds, where their families had to choose between buying food and keeping the lights on. Now, Rolle had to adjust from having teammates with yachts to those who as kids regularly ate bread and mayonnaise for lunch. Even while at FSU, some players sent portions of their scholarship money home to help support their families. Since the dining plan covered only a certain number of meals, sometimes players were left with not enough to eat at the end of the week. Looking back, Rolle realizes he had no idea how to conduct himself around them, tucking his shirt, wearing glasses and using, as he puts it, "proper speech."
His teammates didn't see a football player, they saw a nerd, a square. "They thought I was soft," Rolle recalls. "A lot of them thought I was this little goody two-shoes kind of dude." Reflecting on the social dynamic, Rolle believes he was a prime target for the same kind of bullying and hazing that Jonathan Martin of the Miami Dolphins underwent in the NFL. Fortunately, FSU's strong leaders prevented such unchecked behavior.
But Rolle also recognizes that he had the responsibility to assert himself. As he wrote in a recent op-ed for The Guardian about the Martin incident, "I refused to have my self-worth depreciated." When asked Rolle how he earned his teammates' respect, he told a story that reminded me of something he said about the Martin situation. "If someone calls out your name ... then you need to check that."
At the conclusion of the workouts in the sweltering Florida heat, the coaches had players running 110-yard sprints. "We had got up to running thirty-two 110s," recalled Toddrick Verdell, Rolle's teammate at the time. Then, in a team building exercise, the coaches made a deal with the players. If two players agreed to box (while wearing proper safety equipment), the entire squad would run fewer 110s. As added motivation, whoever volunteered to box was allowed to select his opponent.
One day, as Rolle gasped for air, soaked in sweat, his legs limp as wet noodles after running about two dozen 110s, a coach yelled, "Anyone want to box?" Marcus Sims, a 233-pound, boulder-shaped halfback, volunteered to fight. When he called out "I want three," Rolle's number, everyone knew why. Sims wanted to find out what Rolle was made of.
So did the rest of the team, which responded en masse with a collective, playground-like "Ooooooooh," dramatizing the atmosphere of the showdown. As Verdell remembered "The upperclassmen are thinking he's this nerdy, prep-type smart guy, so they're thinking he's gonna get knocked out ‘cause Marcus is this strong, muscled big guy." It was a contest with almost mythic connotations: strong versus smart, big versus not-quite-as-big, the leader of the pack against the newcomer.
But Rolle had been anticipating this day and used his intelligence to design a plan. An inexperienced fighter, he prepared by watching clips of Muhammad Ali on YouTube, studying what made him an effective boxer. When Sims not only called out Myron's number, but said, directly, "I want to fight you," Myron was prepared. This was the day his teammates would learn that Myron Rolle, the Hun school grad with the tucked-in shirt and the heavy class load, was no nerd.
"He whooped his *** pretty good," Verdell chuckled.
"I killed him," Rolle matter-of-factly recalls. "That was like my testing, you know? My ritual. I had to pass a test." Rolle had first proven himself in a new country, then with the trust fund crowd and now a college locker room filled with future NFL players, demonstrating the ability to fit in with anyone. But Myron didn't just want to fit in with future NFL stars, he wanted to be one .
Myron Rolle is BAHAMIAN. As nerdy as he is..he had to take lumps over there..we all can fight.
This Happens in EVERY LOCKER ROOM ive ever been in.
LOL. Which Rolle ain’t Bahamian? Sands, Adderleys, too.
The point is that what used to go can’t go any more. Now it’s lawsuits and expulsions and jail time and coaches losing jobs. These fools just put it on social media. A president who sees it HAS to act; which means the coach has to act. Whether it’s Leach, or Briles or Paterno, etc. you have to police everything.
It does happen, but it is still very dumb for the athletes and especially dumb for the coaches who sanction it.
Myron Rolle is BAHAMIAN. As nerdy as he is..he had to take lumps over there..we all can fight.
This Happens in EVERY LOCKER ROOM ive ever been in.
LOL. Which Rolle ain’t Bahamian? Sands, Adderleys, too.
The point is that what used to go can’t go any more. Now it’s lawsuits and expulsions and jail time and coaches losing jobs. These fools just put it on social media. A president who sees it HAS to act; which means the coach has to act. Whether it’s Leach, or Briles or Paterno, etc. you have to police everything.
In the Bahamas it widely known that Rolle's are the most violent people. lol...They misjudged that one. Yea i dont understand filming it..if i was a cap i wouldve stepped to all recording it right then n there. But its todays lames..look at Antoni Brown DURING a post game speech recording himself on snapchat for no reason.
Myron Rolle is BAHAMIAN. As nerdy as he is..he had to take lumps over there..we all can fight.
This Happens in EVERY LOCKER ROOM ive ever been in.
LOL. Which Rolle ain’t Bahamian? Sands, Adderleys, too.
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This seems unwise.