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Clay Helton update

Rellyrell said:
Well it was especially embarrassing when u have a program legend’s family there as a tribute.

Also hearing Fickell is #1 on their board.
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No surprise there with Fickell since the AD came aboard…will be interesting if he takes it.
 
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Poopscoop said:
I don't get how no one understands the problem with constantly targeting transfers as a program. This year you'll see the results of what you've been getting told for years. Look at our ends this year... Since portal started we've targeted ends every year and we've developed no one. Well now as a result a defense that is dependent on pressure out of the ends to free up linebackers and safeties in the pass rush is simply getting exploited... Put some pride in our own recruiting and development instead of taking already developed missused kids from elsewhere.
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In fairness, we developed Greg Rousseau. He opted out last year, but we developed him.
 
SCarolina Ibis said:
There is nothing Manny can do wrong for some of these people. He can lose to FSU and they'd try to talk FSU up as a good team instead of saying a single negative word about the guy.
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I don’t think there is anyone that isn’t acknowledging that Manny is struggling. Your beef seems to be with people who don’t want to get rid of him tomorrow. This season just started, and he’s coming off a seaon where the team has made some progress…. I get the, “maybe we’ll hit a home run with the next hire” mentality…. But the % of that working compared to waiting and seeing if the current staff will pan out is probably just as bad. So unless he completely wets the bed the next 4 or 5 games, I’m for re evaluating at the end of the season.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
In fairness, we developed Greg Rousseau. He opted out last year, but we developed him.
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That's fair to say that. but here's the problem with it when Greg came in he's was getting developed by Kool and it was the year BEFORE the portal started... Before that point it just was what it was. And again that was Kool who developed Greg which he'd tell you repeatedly out of his own mouth.
 
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Poopscoop said:
I don't get how no one understands the problem with constantly targeting transfers as a program. This year you'll see the results of what you've been getting told for years. Look at our ends this year... Since portal started we've targeted ends every year and we've developed no one. Well now as a result a defense that is dependent on pressure out of the ends to free up linebackers and safeties in the pass rush is simply getting exploited... Put some pride in our own recruiting and development instead of taking already developed missused kids from elsewhere.
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This^^^
 
Bearly said:
I don’t think there is anyone that isn’t acknowledging that Manny is struggling. Your beef seems to be with people who don’t want to get rid of him tomorrow. This season just started, and he’s coming off a seaon where the team has made some progress…. I get the, “maybe we’ll hit a home run with the next hire” mentality…. But the % of that working compared to waiting and seeing if the current staff will pan out is probably just as bad. So unless he completely wets the bed the next 4 or 5 games, I’m for re evaluating at the end of the season.
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Legit question and not trying to pick a message board fight - what have you seen from Manny that makes you think he can fix the issues we have in 10 games? Are you banking on his ability to adapt? Because he’s already changed both sides of the ball and we still struggle in the same ways that we did in 2019. If he wins an extra game this year but shows the exact same issues that we know for sure sets his ceiling as an 8-9 win coach, are you cool with that? If yes, do you think he has the ability to overcome that ceiling? If no, why keep him? TIA
 
First sentence in second paragraph is all you need to see that USC is serious about making a change for the better "Over the next few months, we will conduct a national search for our NEW head coach"! Not a search after 4 hours, with zero input that cost $4mm!!
 
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jdg3158 said:
First sentence in second paragraph is all you need to see that USC is serious about making a change for the better "Over the next few months, we will conduct a national search for our NEW head coach"! Not a search after 4 hours, with zero input that cost $4mm!!
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Blake James essentially said the same thing
 
Poopscoop said:
That's fair to say that. but here's the problem with it when Greg came in he's was getting developed by Kool and it was the year BEFORE the portal started... Before that point it just was what it was. And again that was Kool who developed Greg which he'd tell you repeatedly out of his own mouth.
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how did Kul develop Greg when Kul left to Bama in February of 2018……..you know Greg’s first year on campus

Was he doing remote learning before it was a thing?
 
Rellyrell said:
Well it was especially embarrassing when u have a program legend’s family there as a tribute.

Also hearing Fickell is #1 on their board.
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Yeah I got a little insight on SC when nephew was getting recruited. Bohn was the AD at cincy when they hired Fickell. That 100% is his guy. They’re close. He made Helton juice up the support staff like crazy that’s why they made waves this past off season in that department. I really think it was also to make the job appealing to the next guy.

Coach Arce is a cool dude. Coach Vic Sooto is a goof. He really thought they had a chance at JTT and tried pulling a oh one spot left if JTT commits that’s the spot, so you can commit now if you want so he ghosted their OV and was already at Stanford. He’s a **** recruiter, lot of other kids were bashing them said they were phony guys in recruiting.

SC should/will go big with the staff. My question is if it’s Fickell, does he get Marcus Freeman to jump ship?
 
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