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CJ Bailey needs to come home

canecrazy23 said:
Bailey against good to great Defenses this year.
6 carries for 11 yards 1.8 yards a carry
9 carries for -14 yards -1.6 yards a carry
9 carries for -19 yards -2.1 yards a carry
8 carries for 2 yards 0.3 yards a carry
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Since sacks count as losing yards, can you also include how many times he was sacked each game?
 
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AllAboutTheU said:
Since sacks count as losing yards, can you also include how many times he was sacked each game?
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Bailey against good to great Defenses this year.
6 carries for 11 yards 1.8 yards a carry (Sacks 1)
9 carries for -14 yards -1.6 yards a carry (Sacks 4)
9 carries for -19 yards -2.1 yards a carry ( Sacks 4)
8 carries for 2 yards 0.3 yards a carry (Sacks 4)
 
canecrazy23 said:
Bailey against good to great Defenses this year.
6 carries for 11 yards 1.8 yards a carry
9 carries for -14 yards -1.6 yards a carry
9 carries for -19 yards -2.1 yards a carry
8 carries for 2 yards 0.3 yards a carry
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Thats cool I dont care about those stats, I can use my eyes and see that he at least possesses the ability to be a threat taking off & running, Beck poses 0 threat... dont need to see any stats to know that, im not looking for dude to be mike vick or Lamar Jackson I just want someone who's more mobile
 
Alex_Dynamix said:
Thats cool I dont care about those stats, I can use my eyes and see that he at least possesses the ability to be a threat taking off & running, Beck poses 0 threat... dont need to see any stats to know that, im not looking for dude to be mike vick or Lamar Jackson I just want someone who's more mobile
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The problem is he's only mobile against average defenses. I showed you what happens when he plays good to great defenses.
 
AllAboutTheU said:
Since sacks count as losing yards, can you also include how many times he was sacked each game?
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This. Dude posting stats without any context to em, Like Mf use your goddman eyes the kid clearly has enough wheels to take off and get some yards on the ground if things breakdown. **** you can even call some draws in the redzone or QB runs in opportune times, it opens so much more of the offense when you dont have a complete statue back there.
 
The only way the juice is worth the squeeze is if it guarantees Smiff portals here. Maybe 5 years ago we would be excited for him. We arent that progrum anymore
 
canecrazy23 said:
Bailey against good to great Defenses this year.
6 carries for 11 yards 1.8 yards a carry (Sacks 1)
9 carries for -14 yards -1.6 yards a carry (Sacks 4)
9 carries for -19 yards -2.1 yards a carry ( Sacks 4)
8 carries for 2 yards 0.3 yards a carry (Sacks 4)
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This seems like important context
 
Really can’t believe Bailey hasn’t hit the portal yet, and yes I understand there’s a lot of back channeling that goes on. But there’s probably at least 20 QB’s already in.
Their Top returning RB and WR hit the portal.
Maybe NCS is where he wants/needs to stay.
 
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AllAboutTheU said:
This seems like important context
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To add some color to Bailey's rushing vs "good" defenses:
  • 6 carries for 11 yards 1.8 yards a carry (Sacks 1)
    • vs Miami: 17 yards rushing on 5 carries.
  • 9 carries for -14 yards -1.6 yards a carry (Sacks 4)
    • vs ND: 18 yards rushing on 5 carries.
  • 9 carries for -19 yards -2.1 yards a carry ( Sacks 4)
    • vs VT: Sacks were actually 5 here; 15 yards rushing on 4 carries.
  • 8 carries for 2 yards 0.3 yards a carry (Sacks 4)
    • vs FSU: 30 yards rushing on 7 carries.
Also had 44 yards rushing against a good UVA team (selectively left that one out) + 65 yards against UNC, 39 against Pitt, 34 against GT.

Obviously, sacks play a big part but I see a guy that can create similarly to the way Cam did with us. Needs to cut down on sacks but his mobility is absolutely a positive. He's not Lamar or Jayden Daniels but hewill be able to pick up chunk plays and big 1st downs with his legs.
 
JHallCanes said:
Nah you’re making a lot of wrong assumptions here but you’re a good poster so I won’t be a ****

I wouldn’t have said it if it was just hating on the kid

If we were gonna take a QB that looked horrible against us and Notre Dame I like the kid from Pitt

Plus it would **** off Narduzzi
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The struggle is real…

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rascon said:
NC State played the easier part of the conference.

But if you REALLY want to play this game, I think we played 3 of the same oppoonents (so that takes out the disaster of the game he had against us) and just focus on the actual common opponents

Notre Dame, Pitt and VT

Beck has 9-1 td/int ratio, 70/91 (77%) for 790 yards,
3-0 record, 33 ppg

Bailey has 6-3 td/int ratio, 67/94 (70%) for 851yards
0-3 record, 20 ppg

My point is this, Beck has the one dud (SMU wasn’t on him) but he’s been better than given credit for.
Betting on Bailey is a major bet on him taking sizable leaps if we are to maintain momentum as a team.

We will find out soon enough and like i said, it seems like a foregone conclusion that it’s going to be Bailey.
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Why would you compare those stats? Beck has a way better supporting cast.
 
Da Jumbo Mutombo said:
Where does this notion even come from? 2nd highlight in the video is a missile. He does a lot of touch passes with accuracy, but that doesnt mean he doesnt have arm strength.

Also, arm strength is overated. Its nice, but if thats the main complaint, its not a bad one. So many qbs with below average arm strength have been good qbs. Though, im not even really admitting I see low arm strength on Bailey.

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If you want to say arm strength is overrated that’s fine, but in no world is the second clip on that highlight reel a “missile”
 
TwentySix said:
If you want to say arm strength is overrated that’s fine, but in no world is the second clip on that highlight reel a “missile”
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Good catch. Throw at 4:10 looked like the most "arm strength" throw to me on the video. Does not appear to be a strength of Bailey from that video though. Does throw a nice catchable deep ball.

I tend to think if your QB is rifling the ball into tiny windows regularly in college he's probably doing something wrong. Guys get schemed wide *** open all the time.
 
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JHallCanes said:
Nah you’re making a lot of wrong assumptions here but you’re a good poster so I won’t be a ****

I wouldn’t have said it if it was just hating on the kid

If we were gonna take a QB that looked horrible against us and Notre Dame I like the kid from Pitt

Plus it would **** off Narduzzi
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That kid **** the bed yesterday
 
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