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According to the NCAA website regarding the CFP rules, the HEAD TO HEAD is one of the determining factors on selection day. Changing the rules in the middle of the game (or at whatever moment they so choose) will make a laughing stock of the committee. Why schedule a TOP opponent in OOC games (Labor Day kickoffs etc) if such a win means nothing in the end?? Cupcake games are not a win-win for TV ratings, $$ etc so this will only open another can of worms in the end. Decisions have consequences.
 
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Because it never comes down to it unless you are talking acc or big 12.

You have to win out. If we had been 11 and 1 right now ranked 7th or so and we lost to uva we would be left out at 11 and 2.
 
the storm said:
According to the NCAA website regarding the CFP rules, the HEAD TO HEAD is one of the determining factors on selection day. Changing the rules in the middle of the game (or at whatever moment they so choose) will make a laughing stock of the committee. Why schedule a TOP opponent in OOC games (Labor Day kickoffs etc) if such a win means nothing in the end?? Cupcake games are not a win-win for TV ratings, $$ etc so this will only open another can of worms in the end. Decisions have consequences.
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It’s flawed logic, but here’s what the committee is trying to say: they considered the head-to-head, but ultimately leaned on “other factors” that they believe gave Notre Dame an edge over Miami.

Their reasoning basically boils down to Notre Dame having two so-called “good losses.” So Notre Dame gets credit for Miami being a top team, while Miami gets zero credit for beating Notre Dame.

The reality is Notre Dame didn’t beat any elite teams, every time they faced one, they lost. Everything else on their schedule was cupcakes. And “who you lost to” should only matter when two teams have identical records and haven’t played each other. Once they have played, the top tiebreaker is always head-to-head.
 
CityboyCanes4life82 said:
It’s flawed logic, but here’s what the committee is trying to say: they considered the head-to-head, but ultimately leaned on “other factors” that they believe gave Notre Dame an edge over Miami.

Their reasoning basically boils down to Notre Dame having two so-called “good losses.” So Notre Dame gets credit for Miami being a top team, while Miami gets zero credit for beating Notre Dame.

The reality is Notre Dame didn’t beat any elite teams, every time they faced one, they lost. Everything else on their schedule was cupcakes. And “who you lost to” should only matter when two teams have identical records and haven’t played each other. Once they have played, the top tiebreaker is always head-to-head.
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Speaking of flawed logic, the other factors they spoke of are now out the door following last weekends results. Plain and simple, they were counting on Miami to pull a Miami in November and it bit them square in the ***.
 
NOTRE DAME: NO wins against TOP 15 opponents! Feasted on a schedule that included LAST PLACE TEAMS from 3 of the Power 4 conferences.

ALABAMA: Losing to FSU who’s won 5 games? What a joke.
 
the storm said:
NOTRE DAME: NO wins against TOP 15 opponents! Feasted on a schedule that included LAST PLACE TEAMS from 3 of the Power 4 conferences.

ALABAMA: Losing to FSU who’s won 5 games? What a joke.
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I am trying to wrap my head around this logic. I can agree that Miami has worse losses, but Miami has the better win. Miami has proven that they can beat an elite team. Every chance that Notre Dame had to be an elite team they lost.

So it’s weird to try to hang their hat on Miami has worse losses, but Miami has the better win. Logically the better team will be Miami because they proven that they can beat an elite team.
 
We moved up 3 in the FPI this weekend.
We're also now only 1 spot behind ND in FPI and 2 spots in effeciency. Well ahead of: UGA, Bama, A&M, OU, and Ole Miss. Also, USF is a top 20 team in the effeciency metrics. And SMU is 23 and Lou is 28.

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the best part of this whole thing is that no matter what, the committee comes out looking like ****. Spent all that time talking about how you need to pass then”eye test” just for Miami to close out 4 straight dominant wins. They tried to say we can’t compare Miami and ND because they’re not within 3 spots of each other, then they were and then they pivot to say sorry H2H is only one data point. We now have 4 common opponents played, Miami showed up better in 3 of those games. Now they’ll say sorry SOS (which is being propped up by Miami being on it) and SOR ( their signature win is an overrated USC team) are the data points we used. The committee will be its own downfall trying to do dumb **** like this and I’m here for it.
 
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the storm said:
According to the NCAA website regarding the CFP rules, the HEAD TO HEAD is one of the determining factors on selection day. Changing the rules in the middle of the game (or at whatever moment they so choose) will make a laughing stock of the committee. Why schedule a TOP opponent in OOC games (Labor Day kickoffs etc) if such a win means nothing in the end?? Cupcake games are not a win-win for TV ratings, $$ etc so this will only open another can of worms in the end. Decisions have consequences.
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Sue em’ for breaking their own rules. We can’t stay silent at the injustices. Hold them accountable and make em’ pay. They can’t get away with it!

 
CityboyCanes4life82 said:
I am trying to wrap my head around this logic. I can agree that Miami has worse losses, but Miami has the better win. Miami has proven that they can beat an elite team. Every chance that Notre Dame had to be an elite team they lost.

So it’s weird to try to hang their hat on Miami has worse losses, but Miami has the better win. Logically the better team will be Miami because they proven that they can beat an elite team.
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What’s worse is although the score was close the play on the field was not. Miami shut down their run game and it took a series of fluky events and suspect officiating for them to even get in position to win the game. The narrative directly after the game was that Miami dominated the game and the score did not reflect how significantly Miami outplayed the Irish
 
CityboyCanes4life82 said:
I am trying to wrap my head around this logic. I can agree that Miami has worse losses, but Miami has the better win. Miami has proven that they can beat an elite team. Every chance that Notre Dame had to be an elite team they lost.

So it’s weird to try to hang their hat on Miami has worse losses, but Miami has the better win. Logically the better team will be Miami because they proven that they can beat an elite team.
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You are falling into their trap, don't do it. **** the "worse losses" narrative, don't acknowledge it, because by the rules of every sport I know of (team or individual) the FIRST tiebreak is ALWAYS head-to-head. If you have beaten a team on field, you advance. Mario has it right (for once) don't accept their language and pound them with the TRUTH
 
RealRussellPumps said:
the best part of this whole thing is that no matter what, the committee comes out looking like ****. Spent all that time talking about how you need to pass then”eye test” just for Miami to close out 4 straight dominant wins. They tried to say we can’t compare Miami and ND because they’re not within 3 spots of each other, then they were and then they pivot to say sorry H2H is only one data point. We now have 4 common opponents played, Miami showed up better in 3 of those games. Now they’ll say sorry SOS (which is being propped up by Miami being on it) and SOR ( their signature win is an overrated USC team) are the data points we used. The committee will be its own downfall trying to do dumb **** like this and I’m here for it.
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Best way out is to drop OU or Ole Miss now that they can blame Kiffin for it. Half the Ole Miss fan base will agree to it ... just to spite Lane
 
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