CFP rankings at 7

[Katzenboyer]

Quit being a drama queen. We've had to escape literally four straight weeks against unranked teams and don't have a single impressive win.

But we escaped. We found a way to win when Clemson, Oklahoma, and TCU couldn't.

You don't even think that's slightly ****ing ridiculous, that Clemson or OU could walk in with losses to unranked teams, but if we lose to ND, we can kiss our chances goodbye? What the **** is wrong with you? What do you not understand about this game? I we had gotten our asses handed to us by a 3-3 team nobody in their right mind would be talking about us.


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Winning doesn’t matter. Losing to perceived good teams matters more.

And beating the ever-loving sht out of bad teams means even more.

Is that what Wisconsin and TCU have done? We've had 20 point margins of victory in a few games. Is that not good enough?

TCU has a better win than we do. They beat Ok. St. on the road by 13. We don't have a single win against a team currently ranked in the CFP Top 25. It's not that hard to see the difference.

Wisconsin, I have no idea. No explanation there as to why we're behind them.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Is that what Wisconsin and TCU have done? We've had 20 point margins of victory in a few games. Is that not good enough?

I know that you're just doing the dckhead thing on purpose, since that's the role you play, but did you not see the 4-week shtshow that we just put together?

 

[Loose Cannon]

The point is that the poll is not supposed to take into account what might happen later. Those teams ahead of us looked better? Did you not watch that Clemson v. Syracuse ****show? How about Iowa State pushing in Sooner **** in Norman? How the ****, EXACTLY, have those teams looked better than us?

They haven't had a lucky bounce off a facemask on 4th down and a lucky fumble against a 1-8 team to avoid two losses.

At no point after the 2nd quarter were we trailing UNC. We didn't "need" anything. But to answer your point, no they didn't have a lucky bounce to avoid an upset. In the end, they couldn't find a way to win. That should count. Especially when the team you lost to is 4-4 and will have to somehow come out with a win against two of FSU, WF, BC, and Louisville to even get to bowl eligibility. That should ******* count.

 

[Buck Teeth]

Who said anything about "erasing" losses? All of the teams ahead of us have looked better than us. Every objective person agrees with that.

The big question, though, is who the *&% cares? If we are 9-0 in 2.5 weeks, we will control our destiny. If we are 7-2 or 8-1, then the poll was correct. None of this matters.

The point is that the poll is not supposed to take into account what might happen later. Those teams ahead of us looked better? Did you not watch that Clemson v. Syracuse ****show? How about Iowa State pushing in Sooner **** in Norman? How the ****, EXACTLY, have those teams looked better than us?

Simple. Clemson has beaten Auburn and VT, two top 15 teams, and are currently 4-0 against Top 30 teams. Our best win is Toledo.

The loss against Syracuse is meaningless until Clemson loses again, unfortunately. OSU won the national championship the year they lost to a 7-6 VT team. Good wins trump a bad loss in the committee's mind; you just need to get used to that.

A loss should NEVER be Meaningless. The CFP is a joke.

Doesn't the 2014 OSU team completely eviscerate this argument?

Lost on the road to 7-6 VT, won the national championship as the #4 seed.

They were the Big 10 Champs that year. Had an entire season to recover from that early loss.

 

[Loose Cannon]

But we escaped. We found a way to win when Clemson, Oklahoma, and TCU couldn't.

You don't even think that's slightly ****ing ridiculous, that Clemson or OU could walk in with losses to unranked teams, but if we lose to ND, we can kiss our chances goodbye? What the **** is wrong with you? What do you not understand about this game? I we had gotten our asses handed to us by a 3-3 team nobody in their right mind would be talking about us.


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Winning doesn’t matter. Losing to perceived good teams matters more.

And beating the ever-loving sht out of bad teams means even more.

Is that what Wisconsin and TCU have done? We've had 20 point margins of victory in a few games. Is that not good enough?

TCU has a better win than we do. They beat Ok. St. on the road by 13. We don't have a single win against a team currently ranked in the CFP Top 25. It's not that hard to see the difference.

Wisconsin, I have no idea. No explanation there as to why we're behind them.

THEY LOST! ****! You don't start comparing quality wins and strength of schedules between two teams when one is an undefeated P5 team and the other has a loss to an unranked perennial cellar dweller.

 

[Loose Cannon]

But we escaped. We found a way to win when Clemson, Oklahoma, and TCU couldn't.

You don't even think that's slightly ****ing ridiculous, that Clemson or OU could walk in with losses to unranked teams, but if we lose to ND, we can kiss our chances goodbye? What the **** is wrong with you? What do you not understand about this game? I we had gotten our asses handed to us by a 3-3 team nobody in their right mind would be talking about us.


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Winning doesn’t matter. Losing to perceived good teams matters more.

And beating the ever-loving sht out of bad teams means even more.

Is that what Wisconsin and TCU have done? We've had 20 point margins of victory in a few games. Is that not good enough?

TCU has a better win than we do. They beat Ok. St. on the road by 13. We don't have a single win against a team currently ranked in the CFP Top 25. It's not that hard to see the difference.

Wisconsin, I have no idea. No explanation there as to why we're behind them.

So this is a 1 game season now? How in the **** can they preach "body of work" for 10 straight weeks then ignore losses? Are losses to unranked teams not part of the "body of work?"

 

[frostycane]

Miami will never get into a CFB playoff w 1 loss. Ever.

Gonna have to run the table.

Playing like we've been playing, no, we will not get in with one loss.

But this Anti-Miami whining is absurd. When we've shown we deserve to be at the top, they have always put us at the top.

Except in2000 when we got totally screwed.

 

[Katzenboyer]

Winning doesn’t matter. Losing to perceived good teams matters more.

And beating the ever-loving sht out of bad teams means even more.

Is that what Wisconsin and TCU have done? We've had 20 point margins of victory in a few games. Is that not good enough?

TCU has a better win than we do. They beat Ok. St. on the road by 13. We don't have a single win against a team currently ranked in the CFP Top 25. It's not that hard to see the difference.

Wisconsin, I have no idea. No explanation there as to why we're behind them.

THEY LOST! ****! You don't start comparing quality wins and strength of schedules between two teams when one is an undefeated P5 team and the other has a loss to an unranked perennial cellar dweller.

Dude. Calm down. It's the first week of rankings.

As I've said a bunch of times in this thread, the Committee values GOOD WINS more than they do bad losses. That's been something they consistently have said since Day 1 of the **** rankings; otherwise, teams would schedule cupcakes and we'd have the BCS rankings all over again. So to answer your question, quality wins and strength of schedule ABSOLUTELY MATTER BETWEEN TWO TEAMS WHEN ONE TEAM IS AN UNDEFEATED POWER 5 TEAM.

It's week one of the rankings. Team's ahead of us, even with one loss, have better resumes than we do; that's just a fact. There's no question. Will this be the same by the end of the season? NO.

Let's see how things shake out before losing our minds over where we stand right now. If we beat VT and ND, there's no doubt we leapfrog the one loss teams. Right now, we don't have a case to do that.

 

[Loose Cannon]

Is that what Wisconsin and TCU have done? We've had 20 point margins of victory in a few games. Is that not good enough?

I know that you're just doing the dckhead thing on purpose, since that's the role you play, but did you not see the 4-week shtshow that we just put together?

Did you not see that we made it through that 4 week ****show with 4 W's when the teams ranked ahead of us were unable to do the same?

If your argument is how bad we've played in wins, how can you not apply that same argument to to how the teams ahead of us played in losses? You say you're not excusing losses with quality wins, then ******* explain it to us all another way. Explain why Clemson, Oklahoma, and TCU are ranked ahead of us without mentioning the teams they've beaten.

 

[Katzenboyer]

Winning doesn’t matter. Losing to perceived good teams matters more.

And beating the ever-loving sht out of bad teams means even more.

Is that what Wisconsin and TCU have done? We've had 20 point margins of victory in a few games. Is that not good enough?

TCU has a better win than we do. They beat Ok. St. on the road by 13. We don't have a single win against a team currently ranked in the CFP Top 25. It's not that hard to see the difference.

Wisconsin, I have no idea. No explanation there as to why we're behind them.

So this is a 1 game season now? How in the **** can they preach "body of work" for 10 straight weeks then ignore losses? Are losses to unranked teams not part of the "body of work?"

Losses are considered part of the body of work. But so are wins against good teams. The teams ahead of us, except for Wisconsin, all have better wins. That's the deciding factor.

Going undefeated don't mean jack in the eyes of the Committee if you've beaten nobody. Simple fact with these rankings.

 

[Katzenboyer]

Is that what Wisconsin and TCU have done? We've had 20 point margins of victory in a few games. Is that not good enough?

I know that you're just doing the dckhead thing on purpose, since that's the role you play, but did you not see the 4-week shtshow that we just put together?

Did you not see that we made it through that 4 week ****show with 4 W's when the teams ranked ahead of us were unable to do the same?

If your argument is how bad we've played in wins, how can you not apply that same argument to to how the teams ahead of us played in losses? You say you're not excusing losses with quality wins, then ****ing explain it to us all another way. Explain why Clemson, Oklahoma, and TCU are ranked ahead of us without mentioning the teams they've beaten.

It's been explained to you countless times this thread. You're just choosing to ignore it.

 

[canes1977]

Who said anything about "erasing" losses? All of the teams ahead of us have looked better than us. Every objective person agrees with that.

The big question, though, is who the *&% cares? If we are 9-0 in 2.5 weeks, we will control our destiny. If we are 7-2 or 8-1, then the poll was correct. None of this matters.

The point is that the poll is not supposed to take into account what might happen later. Those teams ahead of us looked better? Did you not watch that Clemson v. Syracuse ****show? How about Iowa State pushing in Sooner **** in Norman? How the ****, EXACTLY, have those teams looked better than us?

Simple. Clemson has beaten Auburn and VT, two top 15 teams, and are currently 4-0 against Top 30 teams. Our best win is Toledo.

The loss against Syracuse is meaningless until Clemson loses again, unfortunately. OSU won the national championship the year they lost to a 7-6 VT team. Good wins trump a bad loss in the committee's mind; you just need to get used to that.

Then how is PSU ranked ahead of Miami?

Because they're 3-1 against Top 30 teams and lost by 1 on the road to the team ranked #6 .

How do you figure they are 3-1 against teams in the top 30? From what i see, the only teams they've played in the top 30 are OSU and Mich and they split them. They also have a last second win over a pretty average Iowa team that everyone seems to forget. Miami is 1-0 against teams in the top 30.

 

[Katzenboyer]

Winning doesn’t matter. Losing to perceived good teams matters more.

And beating the ever-loving sht out of bad teams means even more.

Is that what Wisconsin and TCU have done? We've had 20 point margins of victory in a few games. Is that not good enough?

TCU has a better win than we do. They beat Ok. St. on the road by 13. We don't have a single win against a team currently ranked in the CFP Top 25. It's not that hard to see the difference.

Wisconsin, I have no idea. No explanation there as to why we're behind them.

THEY LOST! ****! You don't start comparing quality wins and strength of schedules between two teams when one is an undefeated P5 team and the other has a loss to an unranked perennial cellar dweller.

UCF is currently undefeated. Should they be top 4 because they play in a power 5 conference and haven't lost yet?

 

[Loose Cannon]

And beating the ever-loving sht out of bad teams means even more.

Is that what Wisconsin and TCU have done? We've had 20 point margins of victory in a few games. Is that not good enough?

TCU has a better win than we do. They beat Ok. St. on the road by 13. We don't have a single win against a team currently ranked in the CFP Top 25. It's not that hard to see the difference.

Wisconsin, I have no idea. No explanation there as to why we're behind them.

THEY LOST! ****! You don't start comparing quality wins and strength of schedules between two teams when one is an undefeated P5 team and the other has a loss to an unranked perennial cellar dweller.

Dude. Calm down. It's the first week of rankings.

As I've said a bunch of times in this thread, the Committee values GOOD WINS more than they do bad losses. That's been something they consistently have said since Day 1 of the **** rankings; otherwise, teams would schedule cupcakes and we'd have the BCS rankings all over again. So to answer your question, quality wins and strength of schedule ABSOLUTELY MATTER BETWEEN TWO TEAMS WHEN ONE TEAM IS AN UNDEFEATED POWER 5 TEAM.

It's week one of the rankings. Team's ahead of us, even with one loss, have better resumes than we do; that's just a fact. There's no question. Will this be the same by the end of the season? NO.

Let's see how things shake out before losing our minds over where we stand right now. If we beat VT and ND, there's no doubt we leapfrog the one loss teams. Right now, we don't have a case to do that.

What team has better "good wins" than Iowa State? That's the bull**** I'm talking about. Go back and watch the Syracuse v. Clemson game. Listen to the announcers and the halftime analysts. They were ready to give Clemson a pass in the 2nd quarter. They were already pretending that game didn't matter. #2 Clemson lost to a 2-3 unranked Syracuse and only dropped 5 places to 7th. They should have ended up around 15-17.

#3 FSU lost to #1 Alabama and dropped to 11th.

 

[Loose Cannon]

And beating the ever-loving sht out of bad teams means even more.

Is that what Wisconsin and TCU have done? We've had 20 point margins of victory in a few games. Is that not good enough?

TCU has a better win than we do. They beat Ok. St. on the road by 13. We don't have a single win against a team currently ranked in the CFP Top 25. It's not that hard to see the difference.

Wisconsin, I have no idea. No explanation there as to why we're behind them.

THEY LOST! ****! You don't start comparing quality wins and strength of schedules between two teams when one is an undefeated P5 team and the other has a loss to an unranked perennial cellar dweller.

UCF is currently undefeated. Should they be top 4 because they play in a power 5 conference and haven't lost yet?

UCF does not play in a P5 conference.

 

[Katzenboyer]

The point is that the poll is not supposed to take into account what might happen later. Those teams ahead of us looked better? Did you not watch that Clemson v. Syracuse ****show? How about Iowa State pushing in Sooner **** in Norman? How the ****, EXACTLY, have those teams looked better than us?

Simple. Clemson has beaten Auburn and VT, two top 15 teams, and are currently 4-0 against Top 30 teams. Our best win is Toledo.

The loss against Syracuse is meaningless until Clemson loses again, unfortunately. OSU won the national championship the year they lost to a 7-6 VT team. Good wins trump a bad loss in the committee's mind; you just need to get used to that.

Then how is PSU ranked ahead of Miami?

Because they're 3-1 against Top 30 teams and lost by 1 on the road to the team ranked #6 .

How do you figure they are 3-1 against teams in the top 30? From what i see, the only teams they've played in the top 30 are OSU and Mich and they split them. They also have a last second win over a pretty average Iowa team that everyone seems to forget. Miami is 1-0 against teams in the top 30.

I get my rankings from Sagarin, which the Committee says it uses in looking at strength of schedule.

PSU beat Michigan (#22 in Sagarin), Iowa (#27) and Northwestern (#30).

 

[Loose Cannon]

And beating the ever-loving sht out of bad teams means even more.

Is that what Wisconsin and TCU have done? We've had 20 point margins of victory in a few games. Is that not good enough?

TCU has a better win than we do. They beat Ok. St. on the road by 13. We don't have a single win against a team currently ranked in the CFP Top 25. It's not that hard to see the difference.

Wisconsin, I have no idea. No explanation there as to why we're behind them.

So this is a 1 game season now? How in the **** can they preach "body of work" for 10 straight weeks then ignore losses? Are losses to unranked teams not part of the "body of work?"

Losses are considered part of the body of work. But so are wins against good teams. The teams ahead of us, except for Wisconsin, all have better wins. That's the deciding factor.

Going undefeated don't mean jack in the eyes of the Committee if you've beaten nobody. Simple fact with these rankings.

We have 5 wins against P5 teams. The committee is not supposed to treat P5 teams as "nobodies." Miami has the 2nd most wins against top 50 teams. The fact is that Duke was 27th when we played, Ga Tech was 26th, and FSU was 27th as well. Just because they didn't have a number beside their name does not make them nobodies. We MADE these teams "nobodies." Every **** one of them was a "somebody" before we beat them.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

The point is that the poll is not supposed to take into account what might happen later. Those teams ahead of us looked better? Did you not watch that Clemson v. Syracuse ****show? How about Iowa State pushing in Sooner **** in Norman? How the ****, EXACTLY, have those teams looked better than us?

They haven't had a lucky bounce off a facemask on 4th down and a lucky fumble against a 1-8 team to avoid two losses.

At no point after the 2nd quarter were we trailing UNC. We didn't "need" anything. But to answer your point, no they didn't have a lucky bounce to avoid an upset. In the end, they couldn't find a way to win. That should count. Especially when the team you lost to is 4-4 and will have to somehow come out with a win against two of FSU, WF, BC, and Louisville to even get to bowl eligibility. That should ****ing count.

It does count, that's why they're not #1 .

 

[Katzenboyer]

Is that what Wisconsin and TCU have done? We've had 20 point margins of victory in a few games. Is that not good enough?

TCU has a better win than we do. They beat Ok. St. on the road by 13. We don't have a single win against a team currently ranked in the CFP Top 25. It's not that hard to see the difference.

Wisconsin, I have no idea. No explanation there as to why we're behind them.

THEY LOST! ****! You don't start comparing quality wins and strength of schedules between two teams when one is an undefeated P5 team and the other has a loss to an unranked perennial cellar dweller.

UCF is currently undefeated. Should they be top 4 because they play in a power 5 conference and haven't lost yet?

UCF does not play in a P5 conference.

My bad. Had it in my mind that they were Big 12 for some reason.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Miami will never get into a CFB playoff w 1 loss. Ever.

Gonna have to run the table.

Playing like we've been playing, no, we will not get in with one loss.

But this Anti-Miami whining is absurd. When we've shown we deserve to be at the top, they have always put us at the top.

Except in2000 when we got totally screwed.

How many people are going to say this without realizing that the AP Poll had us at #2 ? Either read the thread or do some research.