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CFB is more balanced

People are viewing college football through a pre NIL lens, and that's getting a lot of very good coaches fired. The odds of you upgrading from a James Franklin or a Brian Kelly(Even though his firing was more about him being an awful fit) are terrible. It's a lot more likely that you end up wandering the desert for a decade instead of finding the next Kirby Smart. We are about to see a lot of programs struggle, because people think that everyone can be 11-1 and that is mathematically impossible. There will be a lot of very good 9-3/10-2 teams that don't make it and boosters will think they are one coaching change away, and will be shocked to find out that you can easily hire yourself into 7-5 land..

College football is now a professional product, and coaches have to be viewed accordingly. Imagine firing an NFL coach that consistently wins 75%+ of their games. People would laugh at you, because they understand that there can only be so many hyper elite coaches. That's why the word ELITE exists.

This is also why as I was walking to the car after Saturday's game, I came to the realization that Mario is what he is. Firing a likely 9-3, 10-2 yearly coach doesn't guarantee diddly. That's what Mario is, as long as the money keeps flowing and he is able to recruit at a high level. He's bizarro James Franklin: He wins the games you really want to win(ND, UF, FSU), and finds a way to blow games he should have no business losing(SMU, Louisville). That said, unless the wheels fall off, you can count on him attracting enough talent to win enough games to where Miami isn't pure trash. Considering where this program has been over the last two decades, it's a step in the right direction.

Would I love it if Miami was able to find the next Cignetti and move on from Mario? Yes, but I also know that it's a lot more likely Miami hires the next Al Golden, Randy Shannon or Manny Diaz, than they are to luck into Cigs. Make changes as needed(TEMPO is the one thing I want to see on offense, maximize your possessions, and that would help eliminate these close games to inferior competition), upgrade where appropriate(Dawson isn't terrible, but Miami can be better at that spot) and go from there.
 
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TaylorWalls said:
But you're ignoring that our players f'ed up in game-changing moments. If that boils down to some kind of practice issue, so be it, but we constantly whine about plays calls and "game day decisions" when the plays would work and we would win if they just made the plays.
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I’m not ignoring it. I l
DTP said:
This. The preferred style of offense by our head coach is counterproductive to having any type of real success. We’re playing to get four yards at a time and at an incredibly slow pace and it requires our offense to be perfect for long stretches. A single holding penalty (our offensive line has got to be the most penalized unit in the country) and we might as well just punt. We have no chance of converting if we fall behind the sticks because our offense isn’t designed to gain chunk yards.

We play at such a GOD **** SLOW pace that every single play is a borderline delay of game penalty. We break the huddle with ten seconds on the play clock and then have to rush a play or waste a timeout. No chance for the quarterback to see the defense and call an audible or make any kind of adjustment.

We bunch everyone into tight formations to where if a single player misses a block, our plays are easily blown up.

We require pinpoint precision just to execute plays that net us four yards. Do you know how hard it is for a college offense to execute perfectly on a 15 play drive? We play like we’re a service academy who’s just trying to keep the game close and pull off a miracle win in the final seconds. We purposely play close games and then get shocked when lesser teams upset us.
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great post. I don’t know how we went from ‘23 Dawson you get conservative you get beat to 4th and 1 jumbo run up the gut…. Oh wait I do, rhymes with sorrio
 
E1k said:
Its so funny how all off season people hype up the roster then when the players show they are mid a coach has to be fired lol

All off season this board brushed off us losing literally every starting offensive weapon we had and now dawson is just trash lol

Mario is a mid coach but what everyone is missing is how in year 4 this roster doesn’t match the elite recruiting status people give him. We should be way more worried about his evaluations than his Xs and Os, one was expected but his supposed strengths is whats really failing us to me
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Because Cam was the only elite player we lost. Toney and Daniels are better than any of the receivers we had last year. Obviously Arroyo would be an improvement over anybody at tight end but he was our fifth leading receiver. It’s not like he was carrying the offense. Cam is the big difference. He carried the offense and called his own plays. Dawson should have taken the Rice job last year before he got exposed without Cam.
 
Gocanes1990 said:
I’m not ignoring it. I l

great post. I don’t know how we went from ‘23 Dawson you get conservative you get beat to 4th and 1 jumbo run up the gut…. Oh wait I do, rhymes with sorrio
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We lost because of more game-changing plays than any run plays that were called.
 
TaylorWalls said:
That's also a fair point, and it forces the discussion in a different direction. If there's a lack of focus, preparation, etc., then it ISN'T "game day coaching" or "running the ball". We are absolutely putting guys in a position to succeed and to win. They just aren't finishing.
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I can agree with that take..ppl wanna blame playcalling but we’re undisciplined and unprepared and not executing. Play after play we had opportunities only to end up a hold , false start, drop , INT you name it ..I understand players are going to **** up sometimes but when it’s a recurring theme for 3 games straight you’re probably just a poorly coached team.
 
Canedude08 said:
People are viewing college football through a pre NIL lens, and that's getting a lot of very good coaches fired. The odds of you upgrading from a James Franklin or a Brian Kelly(Even though his firing was more about him being an awful fit) are terrible. It's a lot more likely that you end up wandering the desert for a decade instead of finding the next Kirby Smart. We are about to see a lot of programs struggle, because people think that everyone can be 11-1 and that is mathematically impossible. There will be a lot of very good 9-3/10-2 teams that don't make it and boosters will think they are one coaching change away, and will be shocked to find out that you can easily hire yourself into 7-5 land..

College football is now a professional product, and coaches have to be viewed accordingly. Imagine firing an NFL coach that consistently wins 75%+ of their games. People would laugh at you, because they understand that there can only be so many hyper elite coaches. That's why the word ELITE exists.

This is also why as I was walking to the car after Saturday's game, I came to the realization that Mario is what he is. Firing a likely 9-3, 10-2 yearly coach doesn't guarantee diddly. That's what Mario is, as long as the money keeps flowing and he is able to recruit at a high level. He's bizarro James Franklin: He wins the games you really want to win(ND, UF, FSU), and finds a way to blow games he should have no business losing(SMU, Louisville). That said, unless the wheels fall off, you can count on him attracting enough talent to win enough games to where Miami isn't pure trash. Considering where this program has been over the last two decades, it's a step in the right direction.

Would I love it if Miami was able to find the next Cignetti and move on from Mario? Yes, but I also know that it's a lot more likely Miami hires the next Al Golden, Randy Shannon or Manny Diaz, than they are to luck into Cigs. Make changes as needed(TEMPO is the one thing I want to see on offense, maximize your possessions, and that would help eliminate these close games to inferior competition), upgrade where appropriate(Dawson isn't terrible, but Miami can be better at that spot) and go from there.
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We need a full philosophical switch in the way we approach offense (I know, I can hear the hilariousness of wishing for that in my head). The way we approach the game on offense without a generational talent like Cam Ward has been pretty laughable over the 4 years. We refuse to keep defenses off balance and retreat into tendencies. That's a philosophical mindset of the head coach. It's fear based football.

I'm not sure if anyone has the time or even cares to look at the percentage of times we actually spread the field on 3rd/4th and 3 or less. Sure, "Analytics" says you should be able to pick that up, but that doesn't dictate how you go about it. I would wager money we are over 85% run in either tight bunch, 22, or 23 personnel in those situations.

Forget about tempo and aggressive shot plays. We willingly limit our opportunities through our approach to offense as if we still have Guidrys defense and we NEED to keep them off the field as much as possible.

It's mind-numbing.
 
Brains said:
Evaluations or getting the guys through the door? We've missed some very good players that we wanted, at positions of great need.

We need to get them signed.
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Cribby said:
The roster is worthy of hype but I said 10-2 / 9-3 because of the Mario effect. I know this movie too well.
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I disagree. I don’t see this top level talent on our roster, maybe players turn into that. I think people may be looking at potential instead of reality.
Gocanes1990 said:
Playofff roster, toilet water coach
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Our best weapon on offense is a high school senior..I don’t see this super talented roster. I agree coaching will underachieve tho
 
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Alex_Dynamix said:
We’re losing because of ****** play calling n subpar execution it’s a coaching issue not a talent issue .
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Do yall ever notice that good to great players in sports just so happen to execute better?

Like we think the coaching on offense is drastically different from last year? Like cmon lol
 
DTP said:
Because Cam was the only elite player we lost. Toney and Daniels are better than any of the receivers we had last year. Obviously Arroyo would be an improvement over anybody at tight end but he was our fifth leading receiver. It’s not like he was carrying the offense. Cam is the big difference. He carried the offense and called his own plays. Dawson should have taken the Rice job last year before he got exposed without Cam.
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Toney and daniels aren’t better than X, yall can tell me about speed n all that **** all day but X produced at the same clip with tvd before cam. He was an all American level wr two years in a row and we acting like he was wasn’t because he didn’t get drafted

And even if you are right. We had FOUR p5 starting level wrs last year plus a top tight end. The talent in the overall wr room is not close to last year. Yes cam elevated the entire offense but literally everyone produced well BEFORE they played a snap with him

Im not even a big dawson fan so i wont defend him much but id put the qb and weapons as a bigger issue than he is this year so far
 
E1k said:
Do yall ever notice that good to great players in sports just so happen to execute better?

Like we think the coaching on offense is drastically different from last year? Like cmon lol
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It’s the same way a player can look like **** on one team but thrive on another .. it’s not as black n white as you make it seem.. You can 100% be talented AND poorly coached/undisciplined at the same time. How much talent does is take to not commit a false start 5-6 times a game? We didn’t lose to SMU cause they were more talented then us
 
E1k said:
Do yall ever notice that good to great players in sports just so happen to execute better?

Like we think the coaching on offense is drastically different from last year? Like cmon lol
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I’d say Having Cam Ward @ QB Instead of Carson Pick indeed changes things dramatically
 
E1k said:
Toney and daniels aren’t better than X, yall can tell me about speed n all that **** all day but X produced at the same clip with tvd before cam. He was an all American level wr two years in a row and we acting like he was wasn’t because he didn’t get drafted

And even if you are right. We had FOUR p5 starting level wrs last year plus a top tight end. The talent in the overall wr room is not close to last year. Yes cam elevated the entire offense but literally everyone produced well BEFORE they played a snap with him

Im not even a big dawson fan so i wont defend him much but id put the qb and weapons as a bigger issue than he is this year so far
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Toney and Daniels will both get drafted. None of our guys from last year did.
 
Canedude08 said:
People are viewing college football through a pre NIL lens, and that's getting a lot of very good coaches fired. The odds of you upgrading from a James Franklin or a Brian Kelly(Even though his firing was more about him being an awful fit) are terrible. It's a lot more likely that you end up wandering the desert for a decade instead of finding the next Kirby Smart. We are about to see a lot of programs struggle, because people think that everyone can be 11-1 and that is mathematically impossible. There will be a lot of very good 9-3/10-2 teams that don't make it and boosters will think they are one coaching change away, and will be shocked to find out that you can easily hire yourself into 7-5 land..

College football is now a professional product, and coaches have to be viewed accordingly. Imagine firing an NFL coach that consistently wins 75%+ of their games. People would laugh at you, because they understand that there can only be so many hyper elite coaches. That's why the word ELITE exists.

This is also why as I was walking to the car after Saturday's game, I came to the realization that Mario is what he is. Firing a likely 9-3, 10-2 yearly coach doesn't guarantee diddly. That's what Mario is, as long as the money keeps flowing and he is able to recruit at a high level. He's bizarro James Franklin: He wins the games you really want to win(ND, UF, FSU), and finds a way to blow games he should have no business losing(SMU, Louisville). That said, unless the wheels fall off, you can count on him attracting enough talent to win enough games to where Miami isn't pure trash. Considering where this program has been over the last two decades, it's a step in the right direction.

Would I love it if Miami was able to find the next Cignetti and move on from Mario? Yes, but I also know that it's a lot more likely Miami hires the next Al Golden, Randy Shannon or Manny Diaz, than they are to luck into Cigs. Make changes as needed(TEMPO is the one thing I want to see on offense, maximize your possessions, and that would help eliminate these close games to inferior competition), upgrade where appropriate(Dawson isn't terrible, but Miami can be better at that spot) and go from there.
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currently Mario is giving us Manny Diaz results (actually less than). what's the diff?
 
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TaylorWalls said:
I'm not trying hard at all. I saw mistake after mistake by that - what did you call it - "talent" . You think a 4th and 1 play call cost the game. I think a dropped touchdown and catch-turned-interception cost the game.
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Who’s responsible for acquiring and progressing the “talent” on the roster? Name the person that has that in their JD.
 
E1k said:
This has nothing to do with who played better here.
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I said they were better players. Toney is a true freshman and he’s more explosive than anyone we had last year. He may not end up as UM’s all time leading receiver but that’s because he’s not going to be here for 5 years
 
9oh4Cane said:
People in here really blaming the roster? There are plenty of coaches who could run the table with this roster.

I don’t think lashlee is some elite coach, but switch the rosters and he would have blown Mario out of the water.
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Lashlee is competent. That's all.
 
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