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CB Kenton Dopson Decommits

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gogeta4 said:
match the **** money...pretty simple.
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You can't go around and just match money. If the money that is being matched is more than your current payroll for your starting CB's then they are going to get discontent with their current situation and you either pay them all off or risk alienating them and losing them. KD is an unproven player. It would be wiser to let him go and pay for proven transfer CB. It's a delicate formula but Cristobol and team seems to be balancing it perfectly right now.
 
Calinative said:
If the reason he left is exclusively because of money it would be dumb as **** to A) match it at all vs UNC and B) Match it right now and not right before NSD.

A) everyone talks about us paying the suck tax… well what the **** should UNC be paying when going against the local school and they are a complete dumpster fire right now with a HC who is like the oldest HC and trying to leave? In no u oversee should we have to match UNC to win that recruitment.

B) if it is entirely about NIL then why the **** wouldn’t it be entirely about NIL on NSD? Increasing your bid today just means you have to further increase your bid on NSD…
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doesnt this verbal commitment increase the nil bid?. lol

The cycle isnt over you think folks just gonna stop recruiting him because he verbaled to bum *** unc?.
 
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NaplesCane said:
You can't go around and just match money. If the money that is being matched is more than your current payroll for your starting CB's then they are going to get discontent with their current situation and you either pay them all off or risk alienating them and losing them. KD is an unproven player. It would be wiser to let him go and pay for proven transfer CB. It's a delicate formula but Cristobol and team seems to be balancing it perfectly right now.
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we dont need a transfer cb. Our cb class is loaded and the room is loaded. we have a transfer cb that started at Michigan state for years thats like 3rd on the depth chart.

I agree Mario and them have played nil pretty well and haven't gone tooo crazy in ****ing off current players etc.

I dont know what UNC offered though...his nil agent was a poster on this board soooo....
 
MikeyCanez said:
Not that I disagree with your overall point here. But there are so many unknowns in your example that anybody turning down a big bag now on the chance to get developed for a second NFL contract is making poor financial decisions.

Miami is 5-0 and looks to be on a great trajectory, but let's not pretend that we are some surefire development factory. We might get there and I expect Belichick to flame out spectacularly at UNC, but his name still holds plenty of weight.

If Dopson is any good and Belichick leaves, he can pick up his fat sack of cash and look for another one with a team that develops.

Anyways, not directing at you specifically and I do agree with your overall point about long-term vs. short-term planning and also think Miami is a better spot than UNC, at least right now.

But if UNC is offering 7 figures and we are offering half that, he would be silly to turn it down on the chance that Miami gives him a better shot at a second NFL contract (which less than 50% of first-rounders get).
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Considering that I don't know the numbers that were offered (and I assume you don't either), it's tough to have a real chat about this. I get what you're saying. You really think that the two offers are that far apart? You could be right and let's assume you are.... We offered say $600k per year and UNC offered $1.1M. That's a $500k difference...per year. Multiply by 3 and that's $1.5M. So yeah, an extra $1.5m is nothing to sneeze at. However that's pre-tax (and I'm not doing the Florida doesn't have sales tax thing) and properly invested, would still be worth more than $5m by the time he's 50. I've already made a ton of assumptions here, and there are a gazillion more assumptions to be made to go through all the possible flow charts of draft position, how much better a job we would do vs UNC or some other school, etc. There are just a ton of variables. At the end of the day, if he goes to the school that gets him drafted higher, his payday increases likely by more than the $1.5m extra he made at UNC.

Here's the truth - I don't like losing blue chippers to a "cucked up grandpa whos' more interested in punani at this stage." I may have butchered that quote a bit from @TrumpyCane, but it was epic enough to stand on it's own. UNC beating us for this kid makes me ill. Am I being a homer by assuming we would do a better job developing him than UNC? You bet I am. I'm also using a fair amount of logic and reason. I don't see BB lasting another full season up there. MAYBE he makes it through this year and next, but when he's gone, does Dopson stay? Who's the next coach? What sort of defense will he run? Can that next coach - and his assistants - develop players for the NFL? Who knows. I think I'm done talking in circles now.
 
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Dwinstitles said:
They can’t think rationally you talking to people who have nothing material wise. But I feel you man and agree
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Interesting point - I had that same thought when I was typing out my last message but I didn't make mention of it. Not sure why. You are 100% correct. Is $50k a lot of money? Depends. Is it $50k in cash to someone who hasn't eaten in 3 days? Is it a down payment on a house? Is it a life savings? Is it a vacation? I had a term in college where my transmission on my car was toast and I didn't have the money to fix it. All of a sudden, those old Honda Civics sitting around campus that I thought were hunks of mierda started looking like pretty awesome automobiles.
 
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This is a perfect example of why I curtailed my following of hs recruiting. With the portal and money, everything changes. Just weird choice of school though for a Norland kid. UNC is a dumpster fire and the coach isn’t likely to be there next year it seems. Did they really give him a massive NIL deal??? I didn’t get the sense from reading on here that he’s elite as a prospect.
 
TrumpyCane said:
Like TrumpyCane said

Zero issues with him decommitting and taking life changing $, happens every year and will continue to happen, majority of people here would do the same

It's the extra things, and like you said he's a massive troll so him getting butt hurt over a few tweets from our fans shouldn't be something he gets in his feelings for when he knows how it is

Hopefully he reconsiders because TrumpyCane has a UNC client who donates lots of $ to UNC and they are not happy with Bill B, and its not because of the on field embarrassments, they're looking to move on
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BigDikDaddy thnks @TrumpyCane needs to fire his UNC client's *** because UNC is the devil.






Or at least triple his rates.
 
TwentySix said:
I have no issue, none, with a guy taking the highest offer. In fact, I think if you don’t do that you’re making a mistake. A windfall like some of these kids seem to be getting at 18 is serious, and taking less is something there’s no way I’d advise an 18 year old to do.

That being said. This ************. This ******, no neck, xxxl fits like sausage casing mother ******. This is the **** that ****es me off.

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You know, guys like Genron, Antron Wright, et al, used to grind my gears. but THIS guy is on another level.
 
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Gru said:
And a dad who apparently is a big canes fan to add to it
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dycane said:
Reclassify and take the biggest year 1 deal, knowing you will start. So you have the opportunity to show promise on the field. Without that tape, you’re not marketable. You then move on to a contender willing to pay you more in years 2 and 3.
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The risk is he gets injured or struggles early and he's stuck there.
 
TwentySix said:
I have no issue, none, with a guy taking the highest offer. In fact, I think if you don’t do that you’re making a mistake. A windfall like some of these kids seem to be getting at 18 is serious, and taking less is something there’s no way I’d advise an 18 year old to do.

That being said. This ************. This ******, no neck, xxxl fits like sausage casing mother ******. This is the **** that ****es me off.

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I swear this Wimbrow fat **** has such a punchable face.

Check that, open hand slap-able face. He doesn’t even deserve a closed fist. Just a ***** slap, leaving a red mark across his fat ******* face.
 
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