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Case Closed: 2001 Canes are GOAT

MiamiSouthPaw said:
Any team coached by Larry Coker is not the greatest of all time. They couldn't score an offensive touchdown against Boston College. They were lucky to beat Virginia Tech due to a dropped 2-point conversion by Wilford. They also played a weak Big East schedule and 0 top 10 teams. Even their opponent in the Rose Bowl (Nebraska) was a joke and got trounced by Colorado in the Big 12 Championship Game. Conversely, 1995 Nebraska crushed all of their opponents. They beat 3 top 10 teams. Miami beat zero.
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So we're basing it on the coach and not the talent on the field and what the teams did? When you consider how bad a coach Coker was and that only two teams gave them a game, I think you see just how talented that Miami team was. Every team has that one tough game on their way to a championship and will get a lucky bounce. Dorsey had a bad day at BC and Virginia Tech is just straight up one of the toughest places to play, but they found a way to win. Those two game alone would give Miami the nod. Nebraska wasn't going to run away with a game against Miami. They weren't in any close games. You even saw Nick Saban this year panic a bit against Clemson because his team hadn't played any close games. You want to argue that a one dimensional, archaic offense like what Nebraska was running was going to work against the team that changed the way offense is played in college football? That's laughable. And before you mention Florida, they were soft on defense. That beatdown finally woke up Spurrier to the fact he needed to worry about the defense and he went out and hired Bob Stoops.
 
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The Svengali said:
I think this year’s Clemson team was better than the 2001 Canes. I think this Clemson team is the best ever.
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Teams that purchased their players dont count. Not sour grapes- a Clemson basketball coach was caught on tape saying that Clemson buys recruits.
 
MiamiSouthPaw said:
Any team coached by Larry Coker is not the greatest of all time. They couldn't score an offensive touchdown against Boston College. They were lucky to beat Virginia Tech due to a dropped 2-point conversion by Wilford. They also played a weak Big East schedule and 0 top 10 teams. Even their opponent in the Rose Bowl (Nebraska) was a joke and got trounced by Colorado in the Big 12 Championship Game. Conversely, 1995 Nebraska crushed all of their opponents. They beat 3 top 10 teams. Miami beat zero.
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Really?...Lucky to beat Vag tech....Miami jumped on Virginia Tech early, leading 20–3 at halftime...relaxed...still took care of biz.
Miami went on to win over #14 Syracuse, 59–0, and #12 Washington, 65–7, in consecutive weeks. The combined 124–7 score is an NCAA record for largest margin of victory over consecutive ranked opponents....what was that about ranked teams? Miami beat 5 teams ranked in the top 15. Yeah suck on that.
They remain the only team to have its first-, second-, third- and fourth-string running backs all later become starting running backs in the NFL.
In other words GTFOH with your BS!
 
Skip is a moron lol Disrespectful as **** to say Dorsey was no good based on watching him in the pros. Young and Tebow were busts and then he proceeded to name a guy who was benched the following year as a better QB than Dorsey lol
 
Skip's a paid contrarian. The opposite of what he says is always true. Dorsey's a fine college QB precisely because Skip disagrees.
 
Rellyrell said:
Should have 3 titles, and ended his career 38-1, legit.
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Two, sure—three is a different beast.

Yes, Miami should've played Oklahoma in the 2001 Orange Bowl for the 2000 national title—and would've waxed those clowns—but a win there would've changed the course of history as we know it; starting with Ed Reed and Bryant McKinnie going pro and not returning for their senior seasons.

As it went, Butch pushed both to return in 2001 with the sales pitch that the Hurricanes were knocking on the door of a national title. Had Miami won it all in 2000, those guys have nothing to prove and leave early ... and what do the 2001 Miami Hurricanes look like without Two-Zero-E-Reed; the true leader of that squad, rallying the Canes in Tallahassee and saving the season at Boston College, thanks to Rumph's knee and Walters' grab.

Also, what happens with Butch? With a national title to his name, Miami doesn't drag its feet with his contract and most-likely pays him whatever he was asking for to stick around, instead of bolting to Cleveland.

Like a "Choose Your Own Adventure" book, a title in 2000 would've resulted in a ripple effect that could've changed things.

What's not up for debate; the fact that it wasn't pass interference in the 2003 Fiesta Bowl and that Miami won that game 24-17 in the first overtime—which would've resulted in a 39-1career for Dorsey, back-to-back national titles and a 35-game win-streak going into the 2003 season. Period. End of story.
 
ItsAUThing.com said:
Two, sure—three is a different beast.

Yes, Miami should've played Oklahoma in the 2001 Orange Bowl for the 2000 national title—and would've waxed those clowns—but a win there would've changed the course of history as we know it; starting with Ed Reed and Bryant McKinnie going pro and not returning for their senior seasons.

As it went, Butch pushed both to return in 2001 with the sales pitch that the Hurricanes were knocking on the door of a national title. Had Miami won it all in 2000, those guys have nothing to prove and leave early ... and what do the 2001 Miami Hurricanes look like without Two-Zero-E-Reed; the true leader of that squad, rallying the Canes in Tallahassee and saving the season at Boston College, thanks to Rumph's knee and Walters' grab.

Also, what happens with Butch? With a national title to his name, Miami doesn't drag its feet with his contract and most-likely pays him whatever he was asking for to stick around, instead of bolting to Cleveland.

Like a "Choose Your Own Adventure" book, a title in 2000 would've resulted in a ripple effect that could've changed things.

What's not up for debate; the fact that it wasn't pass interference in the 2003 Fiesta Bowl and that Miami won that game 24-17 in the first overtime—which would've resulted in a 39-1career for Dorsey, back-to-back national titles and a 35-game win-streak going into the 2003 season. Period. End of story.
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There was like 12 seconds left when Ed took it to the house against BC. We would've been fine without it.

Nonetheless, really interesting the way you put a 2000 championship changing history though.
 
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ItsAUThing.com said:
Two, sure—three is a different beast.

Yes, Miami should've played Oklahoma in the 2001 Orange Bowl for the 2000 national title—and would've waxed those clowns—but a win there would've changed the course of history as we know it; starting with Ed Reed and Bryant McKinnie going pro and not returning for their senior seasons.

As it went, Butch pushed both to return in 2001 with the sales pitch that the Hurricanes were knocking on the door of a national title. Had Miami won it all in 2000, those guys have nothing to prove and leave early ... and what do the 2001 Miami Hurricanes look like without Two-Zero-E-Reed; the true leader of that squad, rallying the Canes in Tallahassee and saving the season at Boston College, thanks to Rumph's knee and Walters' grab.

Also, what happens with Butch? With a national title to his name, Miami doesn't drag its feet with his contract and most-likely pays him whatever he was asking for to stick around, instead of bolting to Cleveland.

Like a "Choose Your Own Adventure" book, a title in 2000 would've resulted in a ripple effect that could've changed things.

What's not up for debate; the fact that it wasn't pass interference in the 2003 Fiesta Bowl and that Miami won that game 24-17 in the first overtime—which would've resulted in a 39-1career for Dorsey, back-to-back national titles and a 35-game win-streak going into the 2003 season. Period. End of story.
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U make a lot of sense for that 2000 season & the domino effect it would’ve had.
 
MiamiSouthPaw said:
Any team coached by Larry Coker is not the greatest of all time. They couldn't score an offensive touchdown against Boston College. They were lucky to beat Virginia Tech due to a dropped 2-point conversion by Wilford. They also played a weak Big East schedule and 0 top 10 teams. Even their opponent in the Rose Bowl (Nebraska) was a joke and got trounced by Colorado in the Big 12 Championship Game. Conversely, 1995 Nebraska crushed all of their opponents. They beat 3 top 10 teams. Miami beat zero.
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That team coached itself. Makes an even stronger case for best ever.
 
Miami beats last year’s Clemson team, but imo those that are 100% sure it would be some kind of blowout are being over the top homers.

We all remember the blowouts but at times forget we were a dropped two point conversion against VT and a batted ball INT at BC from potentially dropping two games that year.

Last year’s Clemson team was **** good and would give ANY team in college football history a **** of a game.
 
Larry CoRker and Randy ShaRnnon are the great equalizers that gives other all time teams a hope that they can play it close against our 01 canes.
 
Its never been close really. Other fanbases think they have great teams. That 01 team was out of this world.
 
MiamiSouthPaw said:
Any team coached by Larry Coker is not the greatest of all time. They couldn't score an offensive touchdown against Boston College. They were lucky to beat Virginia Tech due to a dropped 2-point conversion by Wilford. They also played a weak Big East schedule and 0 top 10 teams. Even their opponent in the Rose Bowl (Nebraska) was a joke and got trounced by Colorado in the Big 12 Championship Game. Conversely, 1995 Nebraska crushed all of their opponents. They beat 3 top 10 teams. Miami beat zero.
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Habe you ever thought teams were too scared to play the canes in the rose bowl.especially after seeing two top 15 teams get hammered back to back during the regular season.when's the last time you seen a top 15 team run two top 15 teams out of the stadium in back to back games.scoring over 50 &60 points to less than 7 points for both top 15 teams.not even bama or Clemson sr classes this year have done that ever fact no other team has.
 
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Crazy to think the weak point in the greatest team ever was the head coach.

If Jimmy Johnson had that '01 Team, he would've been shaking his willy at every team and coaching with middle fingers extended. We probably would've broken every offensive and defensive record in the NCAA. VT and Boston College was the result of poor coaching and lack of focus.
 
ItsAUThing.com said:
Two, sure—three is a different beast.

Yes, Miami should've played Oklahoma in the 2001 Orange Bowl for the 2000 national title—and would've waxed those clowns—but a win there would've changed the course of history as we know it; starting with Ed Reed and Bryant McKinnie going pro and not returning for their senior seasons.

As it went, Butch pushed both to return in 2001 with the sales pitch that the Hurricanes were knocking on the door of a national title. Had Miami won it all in 2000, those guys have nothing to prove and leave early ... and what do the 2001 Miami Hurricanes look like without Two-Zero-E-Reed; the true leader of that squad, rallying the Canes in Tallahassee and saving the season at Boston College, thanks to Rumph's knee and Walters' grab.

Also, what happens with Butch? With a national title to his name, Miami doesn't drag its feet with his contract and most-likely pays him whatever he was asking for to stick around, instead of bolting to Cleveland.

Like a "Choose Your Own Adventure" book, a title in 2000 would've resulted in a ripple effect that could've changed things.

What's not up for debate; the fact that it wasn't pass interference in the 2003 Fiesta Bowl and that Miami won that game 24-17 in the first overtime—which would've resulted in a 39-1career for Dorsey, back-to-back national titles and a 35-game win-streak going into the 2003 season. Period. End of story.
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Ed was a 5th yr Sr...he most certainly leaves if we play & beat Oklahoma in 2000/2001 NC
 
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