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I don't dislike Butch at all, and would have been fine with him being our coach again. I just want to point out that as I recall, an awful lot of our fans wanted to run him off from 1995-1999......probably some of the same people who are now his biggest fans.
 
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HurricaneU said:
For fun....

Source: Football Statistics and History | The Football Database

Miami Players Recruited/Coached Under Butch Davis

Year Round Pick Team Player Position
1997 1 15 Miami Dolphins Yatil Green WR
1997 1 17 Washington Redskins Kenard Lang DE
1997 1 18 Tennessee Oilers Kenny Holmes DE
1997 4 111 Cincinnati Bengals Tremain Mack DB
1997 5 133 Atlanta Falcons Marcus Wimberly DB
1997 5 148 Washington Redskins Twan Russell LB
1997 6 192 New England Patriots Tony Gaiter WR
1997 7 211 Seattle Seahawks Carlos Jones DB
1998 1 10 Baltimore Ravens Duane Starks DB
1998 3 74 Atlanta Falcons Jammi German WR
1999 1 4 Indianapolis Colts Edgerrin James RB
1999 5 135 Cincinnati Bengals Nicolas Luchey RB
1999 7 245 Cincinnati Bengals Scott Covington QB
2000 1 14 Green Bay Packers Bubba Franks TE
2000 2 56 Minnesota Vikings Michael Boireau DE
2000 3 90 Tampa Bay Bucs Nate Webster LB
2000 5 148 Baltimore Ravens Richard Mercier OG
2000 7 227 Oakland Raiders Mondriel Fulcher TE
2001 1 11 Carolina Panthers Dan Morgan LB
2001 1 12 St. Louis Rams Damione Lewis DT
2001 1 16 New York Jets Santana Moss WR
2001 1 30 Indianapolis Colts Reggie Wayne WR
2001 3 65 Cleveland Browns James Jackson RB
2001 6 200 New England Patriots Leonard Myers DB
2001 7 245 Cleveland Browns Andre King WR
2002 1 7 Minnesota Vikings Bryant McKinnie OT
2002 1 14 New York Giants Jeremy Shockey TE
2002 1 17 Oakland Raiders Phillip Buchanon DB
2002 1 24 Baltimore Ravens Ed Reed DB
2002 1 27 San Francisco 49ers Mike Rumph DB
2002 2 51 Denver Broncos Clinton Portis RB
2002 4 116 Atlanta Falcons Martin Bibla OG
2002 4 135 Green Bay Packers Najeh Davenport RB
2002 6 183 Indianapolis Colts James Lewis DB
2002 7 226 New York Giants Daryl Jones WR
2002 7 227 Cleveland Browns Joaquin Gonzalez OT
2003 1 3 Houston Texans Andre Johnson WR
2003 1 15 Philadelphia Eagles Jerome McDougle DE
2003 1 23 Buffalo Bills Willis McGahee RB
2003 1 25 New York Giants William Joseph DT
2003 3 89 San Francisco 49ers Andrew Williams DE
2003 4 131 Philadelphia Eagles Jamaal Green DE
2003 5 150 New York Jets Matt Walters DT
2003 7 241 San Francisco 49ers Ken Dorsey QB
2004 1 5 Washington Redskins Sean Taylor DB
2004 1 6 Cleveland Browns Kellen Winslow TE
2004 1 12 New York Jets Jonathan Vilma LB
2004 1 17 Denver Broncos D.J. Williams LB
2004 1 19 Miami Dolphins Vernon Carey OT
2004 1 21 New England Patriots Vince Wilfork DT
2004 7 213 New York Jets Darrell McClover LB
2004 7 215 Chicago Bears Alfonso Marshall DB
2004 7 254 San Diego Chargers Carlos Joseph OT
2005 1 8 Arizona Cardinals Antrel Rolle DB
2005 2 55 Buffalo Bills Roscoe Parrish WR
2005 3 65 San Francisco 49ers Frank Gore RB
2005 3 86 Buffalo Bills Kevin Everett TE
2005 6 200 Denver Broncos Chris Myers OG
Total # of Players 58
Total 1st Rounders 26

North Carolina Players Recruited/Coached By Butch Davis

Year Round Pick Team Player Position
2008 1 29 San Francisco 49ers Kentwan Balmer DT
2008 7 221 Carolina Panthers Hilee Taylor LB
2009 1 29 New York Giants Hakeem Nicks WR
2009 2 64 Denver Broncos Richard Quinn TE
2009 3 83 New England Patriots Brandon Tate WR
2009 5 156 Atlanta Falcons Garrett Reynolds OT
2009 5 160 St. Louis Rams Brooks Foster WR
2010 4 127 Seattle Seahawks E.J. Wilson DE
2010 5 146 San Diego Chargers Cam Thomas DT
2011 1 14 St. Louis Rams Robert Quinn DE
2011 2 40 Dallas Cowboys Bruce Carter LB
2011 2 52 New York Giants Marvin Austin DT
2011 2 59 Cleveland Browns Greg Little WR
2011 4 100 Buffalo Bills Da'Norris Searcy DB
2011 5 133 Buffalo Bills Johnny White RB
2011 5 152 Houston Texans T.J. Yates QB
2011 6 171 Arizona Cardinals Quan Sturdivant LB
2011 7 218 Green Bay Packers Ryan Taylor TE
2012 1 16 New York Jets Quinton Coples DE
2012 2 52 Tennessee Titans Zach Brown LB
2013 1 7 Arizona Cardinals Jonathan Cooper OG
2013 1 28 Denver Broncos Sylvester Williams DT
2013 2 37 Cincinnati Bengals Giovani Bernard RB
2013 3 89 Houston Texans Brennan Williams OT
2013 7 214 Minnesota Vikings Travis Bond OG
2014 1 10 Detroit Lions Eric Ebron TE
2014 3 84 Arizona Cardinals Kareem Martin DE
2014 4 111 Cincinnati Bengals Russell Bodine C
2014 4 128 Carolina Panthers Tre Boston DB
2014 7 225 Minnesota Vikings Jabari Price DB
Total # of Players 30
Total 1st Rounders 7

North Carolina had more players drafted during Butch Davis' tenure than in the previous decade. Miami was more consistent. You only have to go back roughly 7 years (1988) to match the same draft total of Davis' tenure.

After Butch Davis players left, it wouldn’t be until 2017 than North Carolina would have a player taken in the NFL Draft (Mitch Trubisky QB Rd1 - Chicago Bears)

During the same time period Butch Davis was at North Carolina (2006 to 2011), Miami had three fewer players drafted (27). Only one of them - Kenny Phillips in 2008 - would be a first round pick. North Carolina had 7 first round picks during the same period.
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Drop The MF-ing Mic......
 
LPK2006 said:
I don't dislike Butch at all, and would have been fine with him being our coach again. I just want to point out that as I recall, an awful lot of our fans wanted to run him off from 1995-1999......probably some of the same people who are now his biggest fans.
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Looks like those same fans like to run off coaches. Davis for most of his stay here. Coker Shannon golden and now Richt. I’m not defending any of the above Coaches, but haters will always be haters. Miserable malcontents.
 
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HurricaneU said:
For fun....

Source: Football Statistics and History | The Football Database

Miami Players Recruited/Coached Under Butch Davis

Year Round Pick Team Player Position
1997 1 15 Miami Dolphins Yatil Green WR
1997 1 17 Washington Redskins Kenard Lang DE
1997 1 18 Tennessee Oilers Kenny Holmes DE
1997 4 111 Cincinnati Bengals Tremain Mack DB
1997 5 133 Atlanta Falcons Marcus Wimberly DB
1997 5 148 Washington Redskins Twan Russell LB
1997 6 192 New England Patriots Tony Gaiter WR
1997 7 211 Seattle Seahawks Carlos Jones DB
1998 1 10 Baltimore Ravens Duane Starks DB
1998 3 74 Atlanta Falcons Jammi German WR
1999 1 4 Indianapolis Colts Edgerrin James RB
1999 5 135 Cincinnati Bengals Nicolas Luchey RB
1999 7 245 Cincinnati Bengals Scott Covington QB
2000 1 14 Green Bay Packers Bubba Franks TE
2000 2 56 Minnesota Vikings Michael Boireau DE
2000 3 90 Tampa Bay Bucs Nate Webster LB
2000 5 148 Baltimore Ravens Richard Mercier OG
2000 7 227 Oakland Raiders Mondriel Fulcher TE
2001 1 11 Carolina Panthers Dan Morgan LB
2001 1 12 St. Louis Rams Damione Lewis DT
2001 1 16 New York Jets Santana Moss WR
2001 1 30 Indianapolis Colts Reggie Wayne WR
2001 3 65 Cleveland Browns James Jackson RB
2001 6 200 New England Patriots Leonard Myers DB
2001 7 245 Cleveland Browns Andre King WR
2002 1 7 Minnesota Vikings Bryant McKinnie OT
2002 1 14 New York Giants Jeremy Shockey TE
2002 1 17 Oakland Raiders Phillip Buchanon DB
2002 1 24 Baltimore Ravens Ed Reed DB
2002 1 27 San Francisco 49ers Mike Rumph DB
2002 2 51 Denver Broncos Clinton Portis RB
2002 4 116 Atlanta Falcons Martin Bibla OG
2002 4 135 Green Bay Packers Najeh Davenport RB
2002 6 183 Indianapolis Colts James Lewis DB
2002 7 226 New York Giants Daryl Jones WR
2002 7 227 Cleveland Browns Joaquin Gonzalez OT
2003 1 3 Houston Texans Andre Johnson WR
2003 1 15 Philadelphia Eagles Jerome McDougle DE
2003 1 23 Buffalo Bills Willis McGahee RB
2003 1 25 New York Giants William Joseph DT
2003 3 89 San Francisco 49ers Andrew Williams DE
2003 4 131 Philadelphia Eagles Jamaal Green DE
2003 5 150 New York Jets Matt Walters DT
2003 7 241 San Francisco 49ers Ken Dorsey QB
2004 1 5 Washington Redskins Sean Taylor DB
2004 1 6 Cleveland Browns Kellen Winslow TE
2004 1 12 New York Jets Jonathan Vilma LB
2004 1 17 Denver Broncos D.J. Williams LB
2004 1 19 Miami Dolphins Vernon Carey OT
2004 1 21 New England Patriots Vince Wilfork DT
2004 7 213 New York Jets Darrell McClover LB
2004 7 215 Chicago Bears Alfonso Marshall DB
2004 7 254 San Diego Chargers Carlos Joseph OT
2005 1 8 Arizona Cardinals Antrel Rolle DB
2005 2 55 Buffalo Bills Roscoe Parrish WR
2005 3 65 San Francisco 49ers Frank Gore RB
2005 3 86 Buffalo Bills Kevin Everett TE
2005 6 200 Denver Broncos Chris Myers OG
Total # of Players 58
Total 1st Rounders 26

North Carolina Players Recruited/Coached By Butch Davis

Year Round Pick Team Player Position
2008 1 29 San Francisco 49ers Kentwan Balmer DT
2008 7 221 Carolina Panthers Hilee Taylor LB
2009 1 29 New York Giants Hakeem Nicks WR
2009 2 64 Denver Broncos Richard Quinn TE
2009 3 83 New England Patriots Brandon Tate WR
2009 5 156 Atlanta Falcons Garrett Reynolds OT
2009 5 160 St. Louis Rams Brooks Foster WR
2010 4 127 Seattle Seahawks E.J. Wilson DE
2010 5 146 San Diego Chargers Cam Thomas DT
2011 1 14 St. Louis Rams Robert Quinn DE
2011 2 40 Dallas Cowboys Bruce Carter LB
2011 2 52 New York Giants Marvin Austin DT
2011 2 59 Cleveland Browns Greg Little WR
2011 4 100 Buffalo Bills Da'Norris Searcy DB
2011 5 133 Buffalo Bills Johnny White RB
2011 5 152 Houston Texans T.J. Yates QB
2011 6 171 Arizona Cardinals Quan Sturdivant LB
2011 7 218 Green Bay Packers Ryan Taylor TE
2012 1 16 New York Jets Quinton Coples DE
2012 2 52 Tennessee Titans Zach Brown LB
2013 1 7 Arizona Cardinals Jonathan Cooper OG
2013 1 28 Denver Broncos Sylvester Williams DT
2013 2 37 Cincinnati Bengals Giovani Bernard RB
2013 3 89 Houston Texans Brennan Williams OT
2013 7 214 Minnesota Vikings Travis Bond OG
2014 1 10 Detroit Lions Eric Ebron TE
2014 3 84 Arizona Cardinals Kareem Martin DE
2014 4 111 Cincinnati Bengals Russell Bodine C
2014 4 128 Carolina Panthers Tre Boston DB
2014 7 225 Minnesota Vikings Jabari Price DB
Total # of Players 30
Total 1st Rounders 7

North Carolina had more players drafted during Butch Davis' tenure than in the previous decade. Miami was more consistent. You only have to go back roughly 7 years (1988) to match the same draft total of Davis' tenure.

After Butch Davis players left, it wouldn’t be until 2017 than North Carolina would have a player taken in the NFL Draft (Mitch Trubisky QB Rd1 - Chicago Bears)

During the same time period Butch Davis was at North Carolina (2006 to 2011), Miami had three fewer players drafted (27). Only one of them - Kenny Phillips in 2008 - would be a first round pick. North Carolina had 7 first round picks during the same period.
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Just imagine if you'd been able to include those that Butch evaluated and recruited under Jimmy Johnson.

Jimmy cut Butch loose every Thursday to do his thing.

For reason.
 
UMFarArcher said:
Just imagine if you'd been able to include those that Butch evaluated and recruited under Jimmy Johnson.

Jimmy cut Butch loose every Thursday to do his thing.

For reason.
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Think I saw two D-Lineman drafted in that time period but he may have been responsible for recruiting other positions. Harder to track as positition coach.

Was Butch recruiting coordinator under Jimmy?
 
Hemsleysalmons said:
And accept for 2000 his overall record stinks at us and unc. With all the nfl players he had on his teams he underperformed as a coach. Decent recruiter lousy x and o man. His botch psyseudonym was earned.
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I certainly won't defend him as a HEAD coach but to say decent recruiter im sorry but you lost my attention. In this day and age with data bases being what they are holy jeezus would it be too easy for him. Al the same I'm perfectly happy with cmr as our head coach & I dont believe at this point butch wouldve been the right man for the job. I gaurentee if he got the job he wouldnt have been gave the same budget cmr was for his staff.
 
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HurricaneU said:
Think I saw two D-Lineman drafted in that time period but he may have been responsible for recruiting other positions. Harder to track as positition coach.

Was Butch recruiting coordinator under Jimmy?
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Pretty much. As has been stated - Butch left on Thursdays to go evaluate and recruit for Jimmy. Jimmy of course always had the last say - but Butch Davis was the magic for the talent we pulled in. Recognized as such by Jimmy, and on starting on Thursdays - that was his prime directive.

Butch also had a lot of input when Jimmy took over the Cowboys on acquiring personnel.
 
I think the best scenario would be if a smaller school hired Diaz away and then Richt hires Butch as defensive coordinator/head of recruiting. Would this satisfy everyone???
 
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