Can a new coach resend a recent scholarship?

[GojiraCane]

You can send scholarships as frequently as you'd like.

More importantly, scholarships are renewable on an annual basis. You can pull scholarships (as happens all the time, such as for disciplinary reasons).

However, if you start pulling scholarships solely based on performance, the P.R. blowback will be comparable to Hurricane Andrew.

Manny's pretty creative and aggressive, but I don't think he is angling to be the first Division I coach to pull the scholarships from kids who have done everything they are supposed to do, academically and personally, but are simply not as good on the field as we anticipated.

Hey, OP, have you tried sticking your head in an alligator's mouth? Just curious.

To be fair, wasn’t that exactly what Butch Davis was doing ruthlessly in North Carolina? Pulling scholarships from numerous players each year based on performance? I could be wrong, but I recall that being a point of contention in 2010

 

[CashMoneyCane]

I could be wrong, but I believe the LOI is a legally binding contract. So not sure after signing by both parties if it can be rescinded.
Someone on here may be able to explain in further detail the legalities of LOI's for both parties.

You're wrong. It might be binding by NCAA bylaws, but the actual law has nothing to do with it. Besides, what if a kid signs the LOI when he's 17? Immediately null and void.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Can a new Dean of Students rescind OP's diploma?

That's a big assumption. Diploma?

 

[TheOriginalCane]

You're wrong. It might be binding by NCAA bylaws, but the actual law has nothing to do with it. Besides, what if a kid signs the LOI when he's 17? Immediately null and void.

VoidABLE, not null-and-void. But the NCAA requires a parent to co-sign if the recruit is under 17. So, binding.

 

[Miami Nights]

Let be real. We have 4-5 kids who signed early who frankly don’t deserve a scholarship here at Miami. We were grasping at straws near the end bc the ship was sinking.
Is it even possible for a brand new coach to come in and say thanks but no thanks and cut the kids free? It would be better for both parties. They won’t ever see the field here.

If I were the HC and I felt we had guys committed who don't belong I'd try to get them to leave or something. *** trying to be nice I'm trying to win. Otherwise give them a year or whatever to prove themselves and if they don't scissors.

 

[CashMoneyCane]

VoidABLE, not null-and-void. But the NCAA requires a parent to co-sign if the recruit is under 17. So, binding.

Again, NCAA jurisdiction. I seriously doubt an LOI would hold up at all in a court of law. The consideration is dubious at best.

 

[HighSeas]

Let be real. We have 4-5 kids who signed early who frankly don’t deserve a scholarship here at Miami. We were grasping at straws near the end bc the ship was sinking.
Is it even possible for a brand new coach to come in and say thanks but no thanks and cut the kids free? It would be better for both parties. They won’t ever see the field here.

 

[TemplarCane]

From the NCAA site.

Many athletics scholarships, like most merit-based scholarships, are granted for one academic year. However, Division I schools are allowed to provide multi-year scholarships. Allowing these schools to award scholarships for longer than a single year gives student-athletes greater assurance their education will continue even if they suffer an injury, their athletics performance does not live up to expectations or the coaching staff changes. If a school plans to reduce or not renew a student-athlete’s aid, the school must provide the student-athlete an opportunity to appeal. In most cases, coaches decide who receives a scholarship, what it will cover and whether it will be renewed.

Is a scholarship a binding contract between a student-athlete and a school?

No. The scholarship is an agreement between the school and the student-athlete with expectations on both sides, but the agreement is completely separate from transfer regulations. A student-athlete may choose to transfer at any time. With multi-year scholarships now available for Division I schools, those colleges and universities have the option to offer athletics financial aid for more than one year. Such an agreement requires the school to provide financial aid to the student-athlete in accordance with the terms and conditions of the agreement. However, the agreement does not bind the student-athlete to the institution any more than the current transfer rules – he or she may transfer during the term of the award.

If a student-athlete signs a National Letter of Intent, he or she cannot transfer during the initial year of competition without penalty.

Can a coach cancel a student-athlete’s scholarship?

Depending on various circumstances, a school can choose not to renew or cancel a student-athlete’s scholarship. The school has the choice to reduce or cancel the scholarship at the end of the period of the award. The school could also cancel the scholarship during the period of the award under the following circumstances:

• Student-athlete becomes ineligible
• Student-athlete commits fraud
• Misconduct
• Quits the team for personal reasons

 

[TheOriginalCane]

To be fair, wasn’t that exactly what Butch Davis was doing ruthlessly in North Carolina? Pulling scholarships from numerous players each year based on performance? I could be wrong, but I recall that being a point of contention in 2010

Nope.

He may have done a bunch of things, put pressure on guys, etc., but he did not literally pull any scholarships FOR NO REASON.

And it usually doesn't help anyhow, since the IC rules have been passed.

After all, you could pull ALL 85 SCHOLARSHIPS AT ONCE, and you'd only be able to give out 25 to new guys.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Again, NCAA jurisdiction. I seriously doubt an LOI would hold up at all in a court of law. The consideration is dubious at best.

Actually, I think the consideration part would hold up. The player is getting financial benefits for at least 1 year. The school is foregoing the ability to give that scholarship to someone else. Consideration can be "not doing something" that one could otherwise do.

I think there is adequate consideration.

On the other hand, think about this. Usually contracts have to be in writing if they are longer than 1 year. But if the LOI is really just for the first year...anyhow, I DO happen to think that the NCAA stuff is a hot load of sh!it, so maybe we should be avoiding the analysis of their garbage under normal contract construction logic.

 

[CashMoneyCane]

so maybe we should be avoiding the analysis of their garbage under normal contract construction logic.

Exactly my point.

As for consideration, I was actually thinking more from the standpoint of the player. What EXACTLY does the school get that is quantifiable? I suppose "does not play intercollegiate football anywhere else" would work, but again that goes back to duration of contract.

I would not expect any LOI to ever hold up in a court of law.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Exactly my point.

As for consideration, I was actually thinking more from the standpoint of the player. What EXACTLY does the school get that is quantifiable? I suppose "does not play intercollegiate football anywhere else" would work, but again that goes back to duration of contract.

I would not expect any LOI to ever hold up in a court of law.

Based on the 1-year contract, what the school is getting is (essentially) 1 year of exclusivity.

Yes, it is possible for the kid to spurn the "contract" and never show up on campus, but in that case, he would not be able to play anywhere else for 1 year.

 

[LustNCanes]

Yes, a coach can resend a scholarship, ONLY if they have a fax machine to send it!

Or by Mail, which would take a little longer to receive, if it's in state. But if it's OUT of state meaning that it's not in Florida, it will take a lot longer to receive the resended scholarship. BUT, if the coach is smart AND WISE, he would RESEND it overnight next day air , MEANING the student athlete will receive it the next DAY. For ex: If he sends it on Thursday they will receive it on Friday, unless it's a holiday then the athlete will receive it on Monday, so technically that's NOT overnight..... Umm, yes, Umm, what was your question, again...