Can’t Put Lipstick on a Pig and Think She’ll Win the Beauty Pageant.

[WeBallinBoyz]

Real quick, I want to start by saying that there is no excuse for some of Mario’s hires, or the manner in which we’ve lost to teams that are (on paper) inferior. The money we’ve spent compared to the results is absolutely hysterical. Gattis is a full-fledged failure, Addae is a liability both on and off the field, Steele isn’t too far behind (3rd and 13 and 4th and 9, we’re dropping our secondary 20 yds deep? WHY???), Ponce is useless, etc. That’s 100% on Mario, and he’ll have to certainly make changes in the off-season if we expect to right the ship.

But for those who are calling for Mario’s head or blaming the coaches 100%…I mean guys: the product is right there in front of you. You seriously can’t tell me that these kids aren’t deserving of blame?

We were led to believe that these players had turned the corner in the off-season and fall. Y’all know the usual culprits by now - well that ends today. This roster reeks of Manny pu$$yism - they quit at the First sign of adversity, missed tackles galore, terrible angles, dropped passes…I mean it’s glaringly apparent that 70% of these guys aren’t good. Same mistakes as teams in the past. In fact all those ballers everyone loves to hype up - Ke’Shawn, Knighton, Garcia, Campbell, Tae, JWill, Seymore, etc. - they all stink. So yes - Mario is to blame for A LOT of these issues. But this team is rotten, from their work ethic (or lackthereof, plenty of validating posts on that) to their football IQ (yeah, most of these guys are idiots and don’t care) to their actual talent. There’s no denying it anymore. Trash only has a certain ceiling.

Everyone wants a quick fix - well guess what, it ain’t happening. Firing Mario? You’re an idiot if you think that’ll solve something. The Pac-12 isn’t elite, but it’s a better conference than the ACC - that’s just a fact. If he can build a program there, he can build one here. Mario has faults, and he needs to overhaul a lot of mistakes in season 1 rapidly - but make no mistake he can win here.

(Lane could have too, just wanted to sneak that in one last time…chooo chooo mf’s).

This is going to take a long time, 2+ recruiting classes realistically. And I don’t want to hear any excuses about wins being a deterrent in recruiting if Mario is so elite. There is no room for error, no 3-star S. FLA crapshoots. We need guys ready to play now. Until then, let’s just hope Mario makes the necessary changes - starting with the OC, all the way down to asking 20-25 players to kick rocks.

Attack the portal like Sparty did and open up the check book - we’re going to need it.

 

[Zbrod95]

Dudes don’t understand. Kiffin, Stoops, Leipold, whoever would be 3-4 here.

This team has a bunch of losers on it’s wh’s behavior was allowed to grow because they had an even bigger loser in a HC with Diaz. They play like it and you can bet they probably prepare like it as well. You can go and say “oh Duke has a new coach” or whatever you want. Did that Duke team look like they had a bunch of losers out there? Did they lose all hope and pout after that fumble? Nope. Our guys did though.

That’s why that “it’s the coaches” argument is a bunch of bull****. Name one time Oregon absolutely quit on Mario. I‘ll sit here and wait. All of the sudden though he at Miami and it’s his fault that he‘s surrounded by weak minded dweebs. These losers have quit in 3 games this year but yet “it’s the coaches” when this staff literally has NCAA championship coaches on it.

It’s going take years to wipe the loser stench out of the Hecht.

 

[ddann]

I don’t get the whole either/or thing here. It can be the coaches AND the players.

The players fumbled, missed tackles, dropped passes, etc.

But the coaches’ job is to clean that stuff up and get the players ready to execute their assignments.

Again, the teams Miami is losing to (with the exception of aTm), would kill to have Miami’s players on their roster.

 

[Cribby]

Dudes don’t understand. Kiffin, Stoops, Leipold, whoever would be 3-4 here.

This team has a bunch of losers on it’s wh’s behavior was allowed to grow because they had an even bigger loser in a HC with Diaz. They play like it and you can bet they probably prepare like it as well. You can go and say “oh Duke has a new coach” or whatever you want. Did that Duke team look like they had a bunch of losers out there? Did they lose all hope and pout after that fumble? Nope. Our guys did though.

That’s why that “it’s the coaches” argument is a bunch of bull****. Name one time Oregon absolutely quit on Mario. I‘ll sit here and wait. All of the sudden though he at Miami and it’s his fault that he‘s surrounded by weak minded dweebs. These losers have quit in 3 games this year but yet “it’s the coaches” when this staff literally has NCAA championship coaches on it.

It’s going take years to wipe the loser stench out of the Hecht.

Mario needs a big talent advantage to make up for his deficiencies as a game day coach. We knew that coming in. Yes the roster and culture isn’t great but Mario can’t over come that with great coaching. He recruits very well and brings toughness. It’ll take him longer than say a great X O coach to fix this. Imo longterm it’ll be worth it when the roster is flipped but Mario isn’t the type to come in and jump start a team quickly with coaching. He’s a poor man’s Butch.

 

[Zbrod95]

I don’t get the whole either/or thing here. It can be the coaches AND the players.

The players fumbled, missed tackles, dropped passes, etc.

But the coaches’ job is to clean that stuff up and get the players ready to execute their assignments.

Again, the teams Miami is losing to (with the exception of aTm), would kill to have Miami’s players on their roster.

Again, did you ever think that they are playing the most prepared guy and they’re still playing like this?

 

[contract]

Forget beauty pageants. This pig can't give it away to the last drunk at the bar at closing time.

 

[HughFreezemyCuckoldYesPlz]

It's both the players and the coaches. Stop blaming the players. Too many programs wanted a lot of the players on our roster.

Almost no returning player has developed and there's been no improvement. Losing to MTSU and Duke (yes, Elko improved them but they are still mediocre) is not lipstick on a pig. It's bad coaching as well.

 

[JimmyJohnsonsHair]

We have more talent on our roster than Duke and MTSU. We lost (badly) to both of those teams. Enough with the excuses. Produce results or GTFOH.

 

[ddann]

Again, did you ever think that they are playing the most prepared guy and they’re still playing like this?

If so, then maybe they need a new definition for the word “prepared.”

 

[DiegoCane]

Dudes don’t understand. Kiffin, Stoops, Leipold, whoever would be 3-4 here.

This team has a bunch of losers on it’s wh’s behavior was allowed to grow because they had an even bigger loser in a HC with Diaz. They play like it and you can bet they probably prepare like it as well. You can go and say “oh Duke has a new coach” or whatever you want. Did that Duke team look like they had a bunch of losers out there? Did they lose all hope and pout after that fumble? Nope. Our guys did though.

That’s why that “it’s the coaches” argument is a bunch of bull****. Name one time Oregon absolutely quit on Mario. I‘ll sit here and wait. All of the sudden though he at Miami and it’s his fault that he‘s surrounded by weak minded dweebs. These losers have quit in 3 games this year but yet “it’s the coaches” when this staff literally has NCAA championship coaches on it.

It’s going take years to wipe the loser stench out of the Hecht.

This is some impressive Mario homerism right here. I’m impressed.

 

[Zbrod95]

Mario needs a big talent advantage to make up for his deficiencies as a game day coach. We knew that coming in. Yes the roster and culture isn’t great but Mario can’t over come that with great coaching. He recruits very well and brings toughness. It’ll take him longer than say a great X O coach to fix this. Imo longterm it’ll be worth it when the roster is flipped but Mario isn’t the type to come in and jump start a team quickly with coaching. He’s a poor man’s Butch.

I think the culture is being severely underplayed. I‘m only saying it because I know Corey and Chris. Chris would tell me **** that blew my ******* mind about a lot of these guys. I talked to him Tuesday and he told me how UNC is a night to day difference. UNC! a bunch of ******* 3 stars care more about winning than these losers.

 

[88]

Mario needs a big talent advantage to make up for his deficiencies as a game day coach. We knew that coming in. Yes the roster and culture isn’t great but Mario can’t over come that with great coaching. He recruits very well and brings toughness. It’ll take him longer than say a great X O coach to fix this. Imo longterm it’ll be worth it when the roster is flipped but Mario isn’t the type to come in and jump start a team quickly with coaching. He’s a poor man’s Butch.

He’ll load the cupboard for the next coach, who hopefully, finally, is an offensive modern x and o type.

 

[HughFreezemyCuckoldYesPlz]

Mario needs a big talent advantage to make up for his deficiencies as a game day coach. We knew that coming in. Yes the roster and culture isn’t great but Mario can’t over come that with great coaching. He recruits very well and brings toughness. It’ll take him longer than say a great X O coach to fix this. Imo longterm it’ll be worth it when the roster is flipped but Mario isn’t the type to come in and jump start a team quickly with coaching. He’s a poor man’s Butch.

Can't every coach use this as their mantra: if I had elite players, I'd be better, too? I know Mario is a great recruiter, but more has to be brought to the table, given his salary and the investment besides recruiting.

 

[TitansHope]

Dudes don’t understand. Kiffin, Stoops, Leipold, whoever would be 3-4 here.

This team has a bunch of losers on it’s wh’s behavior was allowed to grow because they had an even bigger loser in a HC with Diaz. They play like it and you can bet they probably prepare like it as well. You can go and say “oh Duke has a new coach” or whatever you want. Did that Duke team look like they had a bunch of losers out there? Did they lose all hope and pout after that fumble? Nope. Our guys did though.

That’s why that “it’s the coaches” argument is a bunch of bull****. Name one time Oregon absolutely quit on Mario. I‘ll sit here and wait. All of the sudden though he at Miami and it’s his fault that he‘s surrounded by weak minded dweebs. These losers have quit in 3 games this year but yet “it’s the coaches” when this staff literally has NCAA championship coaches on it.

It’s going take years to wipe the loser stench out of the Hecht.

100%. people saying lane would be 5-1 here or w/e are off their rocker and have no idea how deep the rot goes in this program. the fact of the matter is our most experienced upperclassmen who we should be leaning on are also, with very few exceptions, our absolute worst players. guys will say "oh we have all these top recruits" and sure, but have they literally ever played like it in their entire careers? no! the star rankings don't matter if we can't evaluate or develop, and we sure as **** have not been evaluating or developing these past several years.

do i think mario could have done better than 3-4 thus far? yes. absolutely a lot of this is on him. but people's expectations are ridiculous. we literally *do not have* a good unit on offense right now! OL is terrible. WRs minus young are terrible. RBs because of injury are mediocre (and terrible w/o parrish). TEs are mediocre. do i think mario and gattis could've opened things up a bit earlier and helped their QB better than they did? absolutely. do i think it would've definitively flipped any of our losses? maybe, but it's the furthest thing from a sure bet, because the players and culture are just *bad*.

 

[TrumpyCane]

Mario needs a big talent advantage to make up for his deficiencies as a game day coach. We knew that coming in. Yes the roster and culture isn’t great but Mario can’t over come that with great coaching. He recruits very well and brings toughness. It’ll take him longer than say a great X O coach to fix this. Imo longterm it’ll be worth it when the roster is flipped but Mario isn’t the type to come in and jump start a team quickly with coaching. He’s a poor man’s Butch.

Serious question

How does “gameday coaching” have to do with anything? The guy doesn’t call plays, he’s responsible for what exactly? When to call TO, tho I’m sure the coordinators might have influence on that as well

The fact is he hired two ****** coordinators starting with Gattis who might almkst ne as bad as Enos but even Enos at least put up 40 on a ACC team with a pothead at QB

Then you have Steele who’s 99 years old and thinks Flagg should be in on 3rd downs covering anything

 

[Zbrod95]

This is some impressive Mario homerism right here. I’m impressed.

It has nothing to do with homerism. When you got a friend of yours at UNC telling you how a bunch of 3 stars from the sticks care more about winning than a team that has 3 top 15 classes that’s not on coaching.

 

[ddann]

Mario needs a big talent advantage to make up for his deficiencies as a game day coach. We knew that coming in. Yes the roster and culture isn’t great but Mario can’t over come that with great coaching. He recruits very well and brings toughness. It’ll take him longer than say a great X O coach to fix this. Imo longterm it’ll be worth it when the roster is flipped but Mario isn’t the type to come in and jump start a team quickly with coaching. He’s a poor man’s Butch.

A poor man’s Ron Zook?

 

[nickster]

What games are you watching ? Coaches are PAID to teach techniques and develop players. This head coach and staff has failed miserably. You are another slurper that thinks Mario can coach. He hasn't coached one good game yet and he is getting millions of dollars. WAKE UP

 

[ddann]

It has nothing to do with homerism. When you got a friend of yours at UNC telling you how a bunch of 3 stars from the sticks care more about winning than a team that has 3 top 15 classes that’s not on coaching.

It’s the coaches’ job to make them care.

 

[UMJay]

When was the last time we outcoached the opposing team?