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Richt won ACC Coach of the Year last season, and this board has been filled with calls for him to be fired after starting this year 0-1.

OP is obviously right. Just hypothetically if you did fire him now, nobody is taking this job (and the school isn't gong to hire a 68 year old Butch,) get over it) with such unreal expectations, and recruiting for 2019 and 2020 would be destroyed.
 
TheRichtShow said:
Richt won ACC Coach of the Year last season, and this board has been filled with calls for him to be fired after starting this year 0-1.

OP is obviously right. Just hypothetically if you did fire him now, nobody is taking this job (and the school isn't gong to hire a 68 year old Butch,) get over it) with such unreal expectations, and recruiting for 2019 and 2020 would be destroyed.
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Mark Richt is in his 18th year of being a Head Coach at a major CFB program.

He has not won a National Championship.

If it hasn't happened by now, it isn't ever going to.
 
Silver King said:
And some idiots think that over the last 15 years Miami was a program with full scholarships, in good standing with NCAA, could play in Bowl games, and were so competitive the great athletes were lining up and knocking down the doors to get in. Urban Myere couldn't have done it, Saban coukdn;t have done it under those conditions. Oh yeah, and that the rest of College football didn't recruit the area like trains through Grand Central Station.

That's the same logic that gave us Randy Shanon and Golden.
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Didn't Urb take over at OSU while they were on probation and go undefeated even though they were ineligible for a bowl game? If Urb or Saban took this job 3 years ago when we were on pseudo probation, we would have 5*s starting all over the place by now. There would be a 0% chance a scrub like Rosier would be the QB. Dabo would be shaking in his boots about the upcoming ACCCG. So don't say nobody could have done it just because a second tier coach like Richt hasn't.
 
TheRichtShow said:
Richt won ACC Coach of the Year last season, and this board has been filled with calls for him to be fired after starting this year 0-1.

OP is obviously right. Just hypothetically if you did fire him now, nobody is taking this job (and the school isn't gong to hire a 68 year old Butch,) get over it) with such unreal expectations, and recruiting for 2019 and 2020 would be destroyed.
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This is the relevant issue. It isn't whether Richt was the ideal option (he obviously wasn't). The issue is whether we could get anybody better...and we couldn't without taking a risk on an unproven younger guy. Because we whiffed badly on that path twice in a row, we went the safe route. Under those circumstances hiring Richt made sense. But thinking he was suddenly going to be a zebra that changes his stripes after 15 years was always going to be extremely unlikely.
 
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The LSU game wasn't even the biggest game of his life as Cane's coach (ND, ACC Championship) let alone when he was at UGA (2012 SEC Championship).
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ND was great game but it was bigger win for us fans than mark. We took the Rock and made it the OB. ACC Championship was big, no doubt, since he could have gotten to playoffs, but nobody expected him to win. Winning the sec is his high point, yes. The return of The U is a historic opportunity beyond any of those things. WI game hurt badly but beating LSU would have erased it and land the ground for the return. It would have said last year was not a mirage, that we are in fact coming. Even a close bloody battle that ended in defeat would have been okay. But LSU left clean and only we were bloody. Like you, mark thinks he has nothing to prove. LSU proved that he will not.
 
I see absolutely NO emotion whatsoever....NONE.....No exuberance...No Nothing....just a Lobotomized stare....In the meantime...Saban...Urb...Dabo..etc...are 100% into the game....from A to Z.....
Not standing there like a statue, without a clue what down it is....
 
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Gatorhater said:
ND was great game but it was bigger win for us fans than mark. We took the Rock and made it the OB. ACC Championship was big, no doubt, since he could have gotten to playoffs, but nobody expected him to win. Winning the sec is his high point, yes. The return of The U is a historic opportunity beyond any of those things. WI game hurt badly but beating LSU would have erased it and land the ground for the return. It would have said last year was not a mirage, that we are in fact coming. Even a close bloody battle that ended in defeat would have been okay. But LSU left clean and only we were bloody. Like you, mark thinks he has nothing to prove. LSU proved that he will not.
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How can anybody refute your deep and penetrating daily negative analysis (attacks) after Miami lost to a very good SEC LSU team while playing in a stadium overflowing with LSU fans basically making it a home game for them? Then, the following week they posted 77 points while holding their admittedly inferior opponent scoreless. An ESPN talking head said; "If you are scoring 77 points on anybody while holding them scoreless means you are doing a whole lot of things right."

It's too bad you "football experts" weren't around at the beginning of the 1983 Canes championship football season, that saw them shellacked by Florida 28 to 3 in the opening game. Because if you were around you would have been calling for Schnellenberger to be fired (****, at that point he had never won a college football championship as head coach), the staff to be fired, the benching of Kosar, along with a sundry list of other changes that you "experts" would have demanded.

By the way; the previous season the Schnellenberger coached Canes posted a 7 and 4 record, having lost to Florida, Florida State, Notre Dame, and Maryland. Certainly, in your intellectually stunted world, Schnellenberger should have been fired then and there, along with the entire staff.

Also, it took that bum Schnellenberger 5 years to win a championship...fire the bum (and the staff)!!

Then, immediately after winning College Football's National Championship, some country bumpkin named Jimmie Johnson became the head coach and won 8 games...and lost 5!! All during that 1985 season you "self-anointed football experts" would have fired the head coach (fun fact: that same coach went on to win several Super Bowls), all of his assistants, every starter, the cheerleaders and the hot dog vendors. One of your deep thinking reasons for firing Johnson would have been the fact he had not won a National Championship...and that means he never will!
 
MIA42178 said:
I like to give people a chance to prove me wrong

But seriously. Allowing Richt to hire his inexperienced son to QB coach is yet another epic blunder by Blake James
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We were so desperate we gave Richt total control. It's really no different than Golden hiring his best friend as DC. As soon as you hire someone you can't fire (in any business), you got problems.
 
Earnest T. Bass said:
How can anybody refute your deep and penetrating daily negative analysis (attacks) after Miami lost to a very good SEC LSU team while playing in a stadium overflowing with LSU fans basically making it a home game for them? Then, the following week they posted 77 points while holding their admittedly inferior opponent scoreless. An ESPN talking head said; "If you are scoring 77 points on anybody while holding them scoreless means you are doing a whole lot of things right."

It's too bad you "football experts" weren't around at the beginning of the 1983 Canes championship football season, that saw them shellacked by Florida 28 to 3 in the opening game. Because if you were around you would have been calling for Schnellenberger to be fired (****, at that point he had never won a college football championship as head coach), the staff to be fired, the benching of Kosar, along with a sundry list of other changes that you "experts" would have demanded.

By the way; the previous season the Schnellenberger coached Canes posted a 7 and 4 record, having lost to Florida, Florida State, Notre Dame, and Maryland. Certainly, in your intellectually stunted world, Schnellenberger should have been fired then and there, along with the entire staff.

Also, it took that bum Schnellenberger 5 years to win a championship...fire the bum (and the staff)!!

Then, immediately after winning College Football's National Championship, some country bumpkin named Jimmie Johnson became the head coach and won 8 games...and lost 5!! All during that 1985 season you "self-anointed football experts" would have fired the head coach (fun fact: that same coach went on to win several Super Bowls), all of his assistants, every starter, the cheerleaders and the hot dog vendors. One of your deep thinking reasons for firing Johnson would have been the fact he had not won a National Championship...and that means he never will!
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Schnelly won his title after being a HC for 5 years. Took Jimmy 9 years. Can you find me one CFB head coach who took 18+ years to win a title?

Edit: Found one...Bobby Bowden. Point being it's very rare.
 
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The people asking for Richt to be fired are the same as the idiots at Clemson that would have fired Dabo when he went 6-7 the year before they became dominant. I know we've been waiting a decade, but rebuilding takes time.

Think about this: After the 2010 season, Clemson still hadn't won **** since '81 and at that point Dabo finished 3 seasons where he went: 4-3, 9-4, & 6-7. The next year he went 10-4 (with a loss in the orange bowl as well). It wasn't until 2016 he won the natty. His 9th season! And people want to get rid of someone because he can't do it in 3 or 4 like Saban and Baga.

Say what you want about how dirty Saban is, but he will likely go down as the best HC in CFB for the next 100 years. He's an outlier and should never be the measuring stick for any other school's progress. We can't compete with the money that Baga and it's fanbase put into football. But, running a program like Clemson does is something that is achievable and that should be our goal. You bag a couple of elite kids and build around them, hire good assistants and try to get them paid well enough to stay, and build from there.

Richt isn't perfect but he is the best coach we're gonna find for while. He's a proven winner, good at recruiting, and considered a great to elite coach. If you get rid of him, we'd probably spend the next 10-15 years trying to find that unproven elite coach who would inevitably get poached when schools like Bama go looking for their next coach. All the problems we have now are fixable once Richt stops being stubborn. The problems we'd have if we fired him and repeated the cycle that is finding a hidden gem coach are much, much worse and would take a lot longer to fix.
 
TheRichtShow said:
Richt won ACC Coach of the Year last season, and this board has been filled with calls for him to be fired after starting this year 0-1.

OP is obviously right. Just hypothetically if you did fire him now, nobody is taking this job (and the school isn't gong to hire a 68 year old Butch,) get over it) with such unreal expectations, and recruiting for 2019 and 2020 would be destroyed.
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two FIU kids just got shot in a drive bye. butch is never coming back.
 
Umbra said:
The people asking for Richt to be fired are the same as the idiots at Clemson that would have fired Dabo when he went 6-7 the year before they became dominant. I know we've been waiting a decade, but rebuilding takes time.

Think about this: After the 2010 season, Clemson still hadn't won **** since '81 and at that point Dabo finished 3 seasons where he went: 4-3, 9-4, & 6-7. The next year he went 10-4 (with a loss in the orange bowl as well). It wasn't until 2016 he won the natty. His 9th season! And people want to get rid of someone because he can't do it in 3 or 4 like Saban and Baga.

Say what you want about how dirty Saban is, but he will likely go down as the best HC in CFB for the next 100 years. He's an outlier and should never be the measuring stick for any other school's progress. We can't compete with the money that Baga and it's fanbase put into football. But, running a program like Clemson does is something that is achievable and that should be our goal. You bag a couple of elite kids and build around them, hire good assistants and try to get them paid well enough to stay, and build from there.

Richt isn't perfect but he is the best coach we're gonna find for while. He's a proven winner, good at recruiting, and considered a great to elite coach. If you get rid of him, we'd probably spend the next 10-15 years trying to find that unproven elite coach who would inevitably get poached when schools like Bama go looking for their next coach. All the problems we have now are fixable once Richt stops being stubborn. The problems we'd have if we fired him and repeated the cycle that is finding a hidden gem coach are much, much worse and would take a lot longer to fix.
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richt also never had this recruiting base before.
 
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tcgrad1014 said:
Didn't Urb take over at OSU while they were on probation and go undefeated even though they were ineligible for a bowl game? If Urb or Saban took this job 3 years ago when we were on pseudo probation, we would have 5*s starting all over the place by now. There would be a 0% chance a scrub like Rosier would be the QB. Dabo would be shaking in his boots about the upcoming ACCCG. So don't say nobody could have done it just because a second tier coach like Richt hasn't.
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didnt he replace jim tressel? thats not the same as replacing golden
 
Mahoney-Pearson said:
Most D-cords are gonna play run 1st & 2nd. The reason for our success running is because Richt schemes it up with draws or on non-obvious running downs. Our o-line still isn't where it needs to be to push teams off the ball and to me we're still about a 1-2 years away from being able to do that. Hopefully some of the young guys we have develop and we can continue to land high-end plug and play recruits like Neal, who would go a long way toward solidifying our rotation.

As far as Rosier, he's too limited to compensate for the short-comings of the o-line and I hope we see a more fluid rotation at QB moving forward.

As much criticism as Richt takes I'm looking forward to what he does with the QBs over the next several games and look forward to seeing Jarren with the 1s.
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In today's football landscape...not really. They aren't playing run when you're lining up 3-4 wide...Miami is already having success in the limited opportunities they are running on down and distances above five (basically, 1st and 2nd down). I'm saying...do it more.

I realize our OL is ****, but Richt needs to "scheme it up" with more rush attempts on these non-obvious running downs...which, if you saw the LSU game, is a lot of our second and third down opportunities.

Our statistical model in the run game is eerily similar to Purdue. I know our OL is bad...but its not as bad nor does it lack the player quality as f'n Purdue. Yet, we are getting Purdue results. That's not ok. But, that is the reality of our offense right now...truly...Purdue.

So, in a thread that is talking about Richt being fired and the question was raised...SO WHO DO WE REPLACE HIM WITH...I guess my answer would be Jeff Brohm...we'd get the same result at this point.
 
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Consigliere said:
I don't think there are many coaches who coached, as an HC for 15+ years, and then won big all of the sudden. I am not sure if there are any coaches who have substantially exceeded their resume after such a big sample. Even if there were some, that doesn't mean that Richt is going to be one of them.
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Mack Brown. Got his first “P5” job in 1988. All he had to do was find Vince Young, and... poof. 2005 National Champion. ****, Dabo wasn’t exactly a savant before Richt messed up recruiting Watson (Clemson was turned into a verb, remember?). Can Richt find a Young / not whiff on a Watson? Maybe. Give him 6 years, let him stock the cupboard, maybe find lightning, and then find our Kirby Smart.
 
Silver King said:
And some idiots think that over the last 15 years Miami was a program with full scholarships, in good standing with NCAA, could play in Bowl games, and were so competitive the great athletes were lining up and knocking down the doors to get in. Urban Myere couldn't have done it, Saban coukdn;t have done it under those conditions. Oh yeah, and that the rest of College football didn't recruit the area like trains through Grand Central Station.

That's the same logic that gave us Randy Shanon and Golden.
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Completely went over your head.

Again, it is proven that a good coach can turn a program around in two seasons, regardless of the previous state of the program.
 
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