"Butch can't carry Saban's jockstrap"?

[Meat]

Saban is a better coach then Butch no doubt, at evals they r both the top of the food chain

Tell me how is Saban good at "evals?"

It's not hard to see that a kid has 5 stars on rivals and then drop a bag. That's not an "eval"

 

[Coach Macho]

I've seen plenty of orange-and-green delusion on here over the years but this is near the top.

You're talking about a guy who's 216-62 as a college head coach. LOL (125-20 at Alabama)

As far him buying players...
He took Bama from 6-6 to 12-2 in one year. Then 14-0 in only his 3rd season. So his impact at Bama was immediate and far too soon for his "bought players" to even make an impact.
He's only lost more than 2 games ONCE during his tenure at Bama. (a 10-3 season with a bowl win)
The guy has FIVE national championships on his resume. LOL

And Butch isn't even in Saban's stratosphere when it comes to X's and O's. He's been a defensive guru since his days with the Browns. He's invented concepts that still are forward-thinking til this day. (rip/liz match, pattern matching coverage)

Butch was bad at UNC despite being loaded with NFL talent. (he is an ace recruiter/evaulator) He also got them in trouble. And Butch was even worse in the NFL than Saban was.


I can't believe this is even a discussion. It's one thing to be a fan, it's another thing to be blindly naive.

Go suck off Nick Saban and Alabaga somewhere else.

Let me guess... you took a coaching clinic with Nick Saban and he spat out some BS about "pattern matching" and now you think he's some kind of guru lol.


Butch's NFL career takes a giant steaming dump all over Nick Saban's pathetic pro career. Butch Davis won a Super Bowl with the Dallas Cowboys as the DC under Jimmy Johnson. The '93 Cowboys were one of the greatest teams in NFL history.

Butch took over a Miami team in shambles and under sanctions, and he built the greatest college football team of all time.

Yes, Saban BUYS players. It's kind of hard to lose more than three games when you're landing the #1 class five years in a row.

Nick Saban is basically Larry Coker.

This is embarrassingly dumb. Too dumb to even address.

I've heard some silly **** on here over the years but Butch > Saban trumps them all. LMAO

Nick Saban is Larry Coker. LMAO

 

[Coach Macho]

Only a true Cane homer could ever think that Butch is on Saban's level.

C'mon now. He's not even Miami's GOAT coach but yall wanna compare him to one of the GOAT college football coaches of all-time.

Like him or not, Saban is a god **** beast. Look at his coaching tree for christ sake.

Saban takes a bought and paid for 5* and just plugs him in to the next guy's spot. Butch took unranked kids or kids in totally different positions and made them beasts. I would take Butch 2000 over any Saban year. His coaching tree would be pretty **** impressive as well with more time.

Butch Davis coaching tree:

Chuck Pagano - Indianapolis Colts, head coach
Greg Schiano - Tampa Bay Bucs, head coach
Rob Chudzinski - Cleveland Browns, head coach

Mario Cristobal - Oregon Ducks, head coach
Curtis Johnson - Tuland, head coach
Randy Shannon - Miami Hurricanes, head coach
Larry Coker - Miami Hurricanes, head coach


And that's off the top of my head. Dude's coaching tree produced 3 NFL head coaches and 4 NCAA head coaches, just off the top of my head. That ***** all over Nick Sabag's coaching tree.

Who coached under Saban, Will Muschamp? lol.

Breaking Down Nick Saban'''s Impressive Coaching Tree | Bleacher Report

And Saban coached under Bill Belichick when he was with the Browns. They had one of the best defenses in the NFL.


Those guys you named coached with Butch forever ago!
The guys that coach under Saban get bigger jobs as soon as they leave him. SMH

 

[deleted3746]

2 years later and OP is still a delusional dumb ***.

Taking over in East Lansing with a program that was nothing prior.

vs

Taking over in Miami with a program that had played for 3 NC in the 4 previous years located in the richest talent area. The team just played Nebraska for the NC the year prior. Had plenty of NFL talent and a brand.

These #BoRtchDavidians act like BoRtch has done something the last 18 years.

LOL...took Ron Turner 3 years to win 8 games, Butch did it in one.

So you're saying BoRtch's best accomplishment the last 18 years is winning 8 games at FIU?

 

[Coach Macho]

Coaching tree
Over the years, many former assistant coaches under Saban have gone on to take head coaching positions in both the NFL and at FBS schools. Current Dallas Cowboys head coach Jason Garrett was quarterbacks coach for the Miami Dolphins while Saban was head coach.[49] Most notable from Saban's LSU tenure are Jimbo Fisher, Will Muschamp, Mike Haywood, Derek Dooley, and Miami Dolphins head coach Adam Gase was a graduate assistant and recruiting assistant at LSU under Saban from 2000–2002. Bobby Williams, current assistant coach at Alabama took over as head coach at Michigan State University after Saban left for LSU. Another assistant from his time at Michigan State University, Mark Dantonio, is currently Michigan State's head coach. Jim McElwain, Saban's offensive coordinator at Alabama from 2008 through 2011, served as the football coach at Colorado State University from 2012 to 2014, and was the head coach at the University of Florida. Jeremy Pruitt, a defensive assistant and recruiting coordinator under Saban at Alabama from 2009 to 2012 and the defensive coordinator again under Saban at Alabama starting in 2016, was named the defensive coordinator for Florida State University on December 20, 2012, and on January 14, 2014, was named the defensive coordinator for the Georgia Bulldogs at the University of Georgia. On December 7, 2017, Pruitt was named head coach for the Tennessee Volunteers, his first head coaching job.[50] Former Alabama defensive coordinator Kirby Smart took the head coaching position at the University of Georgia replacing Mark Richt at the beginning of the 2016 season.[51][52] While coaching in Toledo, Saban turned down an application from future NCAA multiple national championship head coach Urban Meyer, who was looking for any coaching job on Saban's staff.[53]

Saban is from the Bill Belichick coaching tree, having worked as his defensive coordinator during Belichick's tenure as head coach of the Cleveland Browns.

 

[Coach Macho]

Jimbo Fisher
Kirby Smart
Mark Dantonio

All are head coaches of top level programs.

Jeremy Pruitt is one of the best defensive minds in college football and an up-and-coming head coach.

Bill Belichick is the best football coach in the world.



You people are delusional.

 

[TheEye]

Saban is a better coach then Butch no doubt, at evals they r both the top of the food chain

Tell me how is Saban good at "evals?"

It's not hard to see that a kid has 5 stars on rivals and then drop a bag. That's not an "eval"

Do you honestly think Butch Davis has a clean record behind the scenes?

 

[StoneWallLoungeCane]

Saban is a better coach then Butch no doubt, at evals they r both the top of the food chain

Tell me how is Saban good at "evals?"

It's not hard to see that a kid has 5 stars on rivals and then drop a bag. That's not an "eval"

Do you honestly think Butch Davis has a clean record behind the scenes?

No. Clearly, guys like Marvin Austin weren’t 5 stars and never benefitted from any curious benefits. Just a great Butch evaluation on his way to 8-5.

 

[Canez1]

Saban is a better coach then Butch no doubt, at evals they r both the top of the food chain

Tell me how is Saban good at "evals?"

It's not hard to see that a kid has 5 stars on rivals and then drop a bag. That's not an "eval"

^Exactly!

 

[Coach Macho]

Saban is a better coach then Butch no doubt, at evals they r both the top of the food chain

Tell me how is Saban good at "evals?"

It's not hard to see that a kid has 5 stars on rivals and then drop a bag. That's not an "eval"

^Exactly!

Yeah! Exactly!
That's exactly how it's done! LOL SMH

 

[Zbrod95]

When you hop onto Tapatalk and this is the first thing you see...

 

[BigDikCane]

Saban can't **** with Dabo...

 

[duke4heisman]

Coaching tree
Over the years, many former assistant coaches under Saban have gone on to take head coaching positions in both the NFL and at FBS schools. Current Dallas Cowboys head coach Jason Garrett was quarterbacks coach for the Miami Dolphins while Saban was head coach.[49] Most notable from Saban's LSU tenure are Jimbo Fisher, Will Muschamp, Mike Haywood, Derek Dooley, and Miami Dolphins head coach Adam Gase was a graduate assistant and recruiting assistant at LSU under Saban from 2000–2002. Bobby Williams, current assistant coach at Alabama took over as head coach at Michigan State University after Saban left for LSU. Another assistant from his time at Michigan State University, Mark Dantonio, is currently Michigan State's head coach. Jim McElwain, Saban's offensive coordinator at Alabama from 2008 through 2011, served as the football coach at Colorado State University from 2012 to 2014, and was the head coach at the University of Florida. Jeremy Pruitt, a defensive assistant and recruiting coordinator under Saban at Alabama from 2009 to 2012 and the defensive coordinator again under Saban at Alabama starting in 2016, was named the defensive coordinator for Florida State University on December 20, 2012, and on January 14, 2014, was named the defensive coordinator for the Georgia Bulldogs at the University of Georgia. On December 7, 2017, Pruitt was named head coach for the Tennessee Volunteers, his first head coaching job.[50] Former Alabama defensive coordinator Kirby Smart took the head coaching position at the University of Georgia replacing Mark Richt at the beginning of the 2016 season.[51][52] While coaching in Toledo, Saban turned down an application from future NCAA multiple national championship head coach Urban Meyer, who was looking for any coaching job on Saban's staff.[53]

Saban is from the Bill Belichick coaching tree, having worked as his defensive coordinator during Belichick's tenure as head coach of the Cleveland Browns.

Several of Davis' assistant coaches from his head coaching positions have gone on to be NFL and college football head coaches. Three of the coordinators from his time at the University of Miami would go on to be head coaches at either the NCAA or NFL level. Special teams coach Chuck Pagano is head coach of the Indianapolis Colts, Greg Schiano would go on to become the head coach of Rutgers and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and Larry Coker became the head coach of the University of Miami following Davis' departure and was formerly the head coach at The University of Texas at San Antonio. In addition to Pagano, Schiano, and Coker, former FIU head coach Mario Cristobal served under Davis as a graduate assistant from 1998 to 2000. Another assistant coach under Davis at Miami who would go on to become a head coach is Randy Shannon. Shannon served as the linebackers coach for Davis' first three years at Miami. Former Tulane football coach Curtis Johnson also was an assistant under Davis at UM. Johnson served as the wide receivers coach from 1996 to 2005. Davis' tight ends coach at the University of Miami was Rob Chudzinski, former head coach of the Cleveland Browns. Chudzinski worked in Cleveland when Davis was the head coach there serving as tight ends coach in 2004.

While with the Cleveland Browns and the North Carolina Tar Heels, three of Davis' assistant coaches went on to serve as head coaches in some capacity. Everett Withers replaced him as the head coach at North Carolina for the 2011 season. Withers is currently the head coach at Texas State University. The secondary coach in Cleveland under Davis, Todd Bowles served as the interim head coach of the Miami Dolphins in 2011 and is now the head coach for the New York Jets.[18] Davis' special teams coach in Cleveland in 2004, Taver Johnson, served as the interim head coach of Arkansas for a brief time during the spring following Bobby Petrino's departure and currently is the cornerbacks coach. Bruce Arians served as offensive coordinator for the Cleveland Browns under Davis from 2001-2003. After stints as the offensive coordinator for the Pittsburgh Steelers and Indianapolis Colts, Arians served as the interim head coach for the Colts and is now head coach of the Arizona Cardinals.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

Butch Davis is a football God!

 

[Coach Macho]

Coaching tree
Over the years, many former assistant coaches under Saban have gone on to take head coaching positions in both the NFL and at FBS schools. Current Dallas Cowboys head coach Jason Garrett was quarterbacks coach for the Miami Dolphins while Saban was head coach.[49] Most notable from Saban's LSU tenure are Jimbo Fisher, Will Muschamp, Mike Haywood, Derek Dooley, and Miami Dolphins head coach Adam Gase was a graduate assistant and recruiting assistant at LSU under Saban from 2000–2002. Bobby Williams, current assistant coach at Alabama took over as head coach at Michigan State University after Saban left for LSU. Another assistant from his time at Michigan State University, Mark Dantonio, is currently Michigan State's head coach. Jim McElwain, Saban's offensive coordinator at Alabama from 2008 through 2011, served as the football coach at Colorado State University from 2012 to 2014, and was the head coach at the University of Florida. Jeremy Pruitt, a defensive assistant and recruiting coordinator under Saban at Alabama from 2009 to 2012 and the defensive coordinator again under Saban at Alabama starting in 2016, was named the defensive coordinator for Florida State University on December 20, 2012, and on January 14, 2014, was named the defensive coordinator for the Georgia Bulldogs at the University of Georgia. On December 7, 2017, Pruitt was named head coach for the Tennessee Volunteers, his first head coaching job.[50] Former Alabama defensive coordinator Kirby Smart took the head coaching position at the University of Georgia replacing Mark Richt at the beginning of the 2016 season.[51][52] While coaching in Toledo, Saban turned down an application from future NCAA multiple national championship head coach Urban Meyer, who was looking for any coaching job on Saban's staff.[53]

Saban is from the Bill Belichick coaching tree, having worked as his defensive coordinator during Belichick's tenure as head coach of the Cleveland Browns.

Several of Davis' assistant coaches from his head coaching positions have gone on to be NFL and college football head coaches. Three of the coordinators from his time at the University of Miami would go on to be head coaches at either the NCAA or NFL level. Special teams coach Chuck Pagano is head coach of the Indianapolis Colts, Greg Schiano would go on to become the head coach of Rutgers and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and Larry Coker became the head coach of the University of Miami following Davis' departure and was formerly the head coach at The University of Texas at San Antonio. In addition to Pagano, Schiano, and Coker, former FIU head coach Mario Cristobal served under Davis as a graduate assistant from 1998 to 2000. Another assistant coach under Davis at Miami who would go on to become a head coach is Randy Shannon. Shannon served as the linebackers coach for Davis' first three years at Miami. Former Tulane football coach Curtis Johnson also was an assistant under Davis at UM. Johnson served as the wide receivers coach from 1996 to 2005. Davis' tight ends coach at the University of Miami was Rob Chudzinski, former head coach of the Cleveland Browns. Chudzinski worked in Cleveland when Davis was the head coach there serving as tight ends coach in 2004.

While with the Cleveland Browns and the North Carolina Tar Heels, three of Davis' assistant coaches went on to serve as head coaches in some capacity. Everett Withers replaced him as the head coach at North Carolina for the 2011 season. Withers is currently the head coach at Texas State University. The secondary coach in Cleveland under Davis, Todd Bowles served as the interim head coach of the Miami Dolphins in 2011 and is now the head coach for the New York Jets.[18] Davis' special teams coach in Cleveland in 2004, Taver Johnson, served as the interim head coach of Arkansas for a brief time during the spring following Bobby Petrino's departure and currently is the cornerbacks coach. Bruce Arians served as offensive coordinator for the Cleveland Browns under Davis from 2001-2003. After stints as the offensive coordinator for the Pittsburgh Steelers and Indianapolis Colts, Arians served as the interim head coach for the Colts and is now head coach of the Arizona Cardinals.

LOL

 

[Dwinstitles]

Saban is a better coach then Butch no doubt, at evals they r both the top of the food chain

Tell me how is Saban good at "evals?"

It's not hard to see that a kid has 5 stars on rivals and then drop a bag. That's not an "eval"

^Exactly!

Yeah! Exactly!
That's exactly how it's done! LOL SMH

alot of the time saban finds a guy before they get the stars

 

[Meat]

Saban is a better coach then Butch no doubt, at evals they r both the top of the food chain

Tell me how is Saban good at "evals?"

It's not hard to see that a kid has 5 stars on rivals and then drop a bag. That's not an "eval"

^Exactly!

Yeah! Exactly!
That's exactly how it's done! LOL SMH

alot of the time saban finds a guy before they get the stars

LOL no.

 

[Meat]

Saban is a better coach then Butch no doubt, at evals they r both the top of the food chain

Tell me how is Saban good at "evals?"

It's not hard to see that a kid has 5 stars on rivals and then drop a bag. That's not an "eval"

Do you honestly think Butch Davis has a clean record behind the scenes?

I know that Butch Davis didn't use Rivals to evaluate recruits.

 

[Meat]

I've seen plenty of orange-and-green delusion on here over the years but this is near the top.

You're talking about a guy who's 216-62 as a college head coach. LOL (125-20 at Alabama)

As far him buying players...
He took Bama from 6-6 to 12-2 in one year. Then 14-0 in only his 3rd season. So his impact at Bama was immediate and far too soon for his "bought players" to even make an impact.
He's only lost more than 2 games ONCE during his tenure at Bama. (a 10-3 season with a bowl win)
The guy has FIVE national championships on his resume. LOL

And Butch isn't even in Saban's stratosphere when it comes to X's and O's. He's been a defensive guru since his days with the Browns. He's invented concepts that still are forward-thinking til this day. (rip/liz match, pattern matching coverage)

Butch was bad at UNC despite being loaded with NFL talent. (he is an ace recruiter/evaulator) He also got them in trouble. And Butch was even worse in the NFL than Saban was.


I can't believe this is even a discussion. It's one thing to be a fan, it's another thing to be blindly naive.

Go suck off Nick Saban and Alabaga somewhere else.

Let me guess... you took a coaching clinic with Nick Saban and he spat out some BS about "pattern matching" and now you think he's some kind of guru lol.


Butch's NFL career takes a giant steaming dump all over Nick Saban's pathetic pro career. Butch Davis won a Super Bowl with the Dallas Cowboys as the DC under Jimmy Johnson. The '93 Cowboys were one of the greatest teams in NFL history.

Butch took over a Miami team in shambles and under sanctions, and he built the greatest college football team of all time.

Yes, Saban BUYS players. It's kind of hard to lose more than three games when you're landing the #1 class five years in a row.

Nick Saban is basically Larry Coker.

This is embarrassingly dumb. Too dumb to even address.

I've heard some silly **** on here over the years but Butch > Saban trumps them all. LMAO

Nick Saban is Larry Coker. LMAO

In the sense that ANYONE could win with the talent he buys for Alabama, yes Nick Saban is Larry Coker.

 

[StoneWallLoungeCane]

Saban is a better coach then Butch no doubt, at evals they r both the top of the food chain

Tell me how is Saban good at "evals?"

It's not hard to see that a kid has 5 stars on rivals and then drop a bag. That's not an "eval"

Do you honestly think Butch Davis has a clean record behind the scenes?

I know that Butch Davis didn't use Rivals to evaluate recruits.

So when Butch was at UNC who are all of these guys he evaluated?