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AustinCane6688

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Unfortunately for him, he's going to be the first guy sh*t canned and it will happen at some point THIS SEASON. We lead the NATION in sacks allowed. That's a fireable offense by itself.
 
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RemainMack said:
Yep. And near halfway point showing no improvement pass or run blocking.
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I'm trying to remain objective and realistic. Manny isn't getting fired unless we lose out. He's definitely on the hot seat going into next year. Assuming we limp to the finish, I think he may end up overhauling the defensive side of the ball and cuts bait with Barry. Buys himself some more time. Still think there's a chance Enos gets a HC gig somewhere so he might be gone too.
 
AustinCane6688 said:
I'm trying to remain objective and realistic. Manny isn't getting fired unless we lose out. He's definitely on the hot seat going into next year. Assuming we limp to the finish, I think he may end up overhauling the defensive side of the ball and cuts bait with Barry. Buys himself some more time. Still think there's a chance Enos gets a HC gig somewhere so he might be gone too.
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How could Enos get a HC gig? Based on what?
 
AustinCane6688 said:
I'm trying to remain objective and realistic. Manny isn't getting fired unless we lose out. He's definitely on the hot seat going into next year. Assuming we limp to the finish, I think he may end up overhauling the defensive side of the ball and cuts bait with Barry. Buys himself some more time. Still think there's a chance Enos gets a HC gig somewhere so he might be gone too.
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Until he proves it otherwise I dont believe Manny will touch his boys of the defensive staff.
He has that Golden Dorito love thing with them.
 
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RemainMack said:
How could Enos get a HC gig? Based on what?
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Not saying it will be at a big program but retreads get jobs all the time in this industry. He's also got Bama (Tua, Hurts, etc.) on his resume and in 5 games, our QB's have collectively completed nearly 70 pct of their passes and have thrown 12 TD's to 4 INT's. Someone in the Group of 5 is going to consider him.
 
Torocane said:
Until he proves it otherwise I dont believe Manny will touch his boys of the defensive staff.
He has that Golden Dorito love thing with them.
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If this was year 1 then I'd agree with you but It's year 4 and these guys continue to sh*t the bed on the recruiting trail and now on Saturday's. Maybe he keeps Baker on in some capacity but he was on the fence about retaining Rumph to begin with, Stroud is not a permanent solution as DL coach and I sincerely hope he doesn't plan on hitching his wagon to guys like Banda and Patke.
 
AustinCane6688 said:
If this was year 1 then I'd agree with you but It's year 4 and these guys continue to sh*t the bed on the recruiting trail and now on Saturday's. Maybe he keeps Baker on in some capacity but he was on the fence about retaining Rumph to begin with, Stroud is not a permanent solution as DL coach and I sincerely hope he doesn't plan on hitching his wagon to guys like Banda and Patke.
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You see that.....I see that.....just about everyone sees that......but I dont think Manny sees that when he looks at his boys. I think he will twist the stats to find a way to defend them.
 
AustinCane6688 said:
Not saying it will be at a big program but retreads get jobs all the time in this industry. He's also got Bama (Tua, Hurts, etc.) on his resume and in 5 games, our QB's have collectively completed nearly 70 pct of their passes and have thrown 12 TD's to 4 INT's. Someone in the Group of 5 is going to consider him.
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And what are our offensive rankings? How do we play and adapt against any sort of defensive game planning? What have his offensive rankings been year after year as an OC? There is already a thread pointing out how awful he has been relative to other years preceding or succeeding him when he has been an OC.

And Tua? He was there one year as a qb coach only. Tua would be amazing with anyone. Their talent, infrastructure and program development is why Enos looked better than he actually is.

If you mean FIU or Bojangles tech, then sure.
 
RemainMack said:
And what are our offensive rankings? How do we play and adapt against any sort of defensive game planning? What have his offensive rankings been year after year as an OC? There is already a thread pointing out how awful he has been relative to other years preceding or succeeding him when he has been an OC.

And Tua? He was there one year as a qb coach only. Tua would be amazing with anyone. Their talent, infrastructure and program development is why Enos looked better than he actually is.

If you mean FIU or Bojangles tech, then sure.
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Chill man Bojangles is way too good to be mentioned in the same breath as any of our coaches
 
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Gsugradcanefan said:
And folks on here thought he was a good hire with his NFL "pedigree" having been the o-line coach for Tampa Bay 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Just a reminder that Butch Barry was the assistant OL coach for the Bucs. He was not over the room there. Assistant for one of the worst OL in the NFL last year and his only college experience was at CMU... for 2 whole years. He coached TEs before that. He’s a ******* bum. After the service academy joker, this was the worst hire of the bunch. Comedy hour in Coral Gables
 
When you hire a staff full of bums who have never accomplished anything at any level this is what you get. Pud Foster has been a toilet for 2 years, and Vag Tech wasn’t sacking anyone. I think they almost doubled their entire season total of sacks today.
 
Cant fully blame this dude with the talent he walked into.

The thing is....im not sure how they thought losing Boulware (should of talked him out of that move) and Mahoney and we would get better??

That to add guys like St.Louis.

The previous OL coach couldnt recruit a Tackle to save his life. And even if he stayed he was filling last years class with stooges. My observance was last year Tackle he had pinned as some sort of bookend in Michael Tarquin. He eventually went to UF....but that kid could barely get out of his stance when i saw him and had a train ran on him at Paradise camp by any end worth a sh*t no matter their grade level )(10th graders included)

There is NOTHING Barry can do to make them soft mfers tough...or make Donaldosn be able to move his feet at this point. Zion Nelson to me is a wash i really dont care what he does as he is a guy that is literally group of 5 level and at any ther school in the big 3 would be shirting this year. Yet he likely is the best we can stick out wide and HE IS getting his *** whopped.

The problem i REALLY see though...is in recruiting i dont see them after ANY JUCOS or having a shot at any plug n play 4 or 5 star type recruits...and just lost the best OT in south florida today to Uf
 
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