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AustinCane86

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No chance in **** we can afford him but **** is this guy good. Quick, aggressive defense and up-tempo offense with a bunch of 3 star kids to boot
 
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Dude, we better start looking at good D2, or smaller D1 good coaches. A big time coach is not coming here. Nothing at all to gain for them.
 
I agree no chance we get Patterson, but the biggest thing I like about him right now.. He is missing literally all of his defense. I think 8 starters down last week, they got into a shoot out with TTU, but he won. Not sure how many he is missing this week but they keep getting it done. Same thing last year.

Yet, through all of this, he has not made 1 excuse. He keeps getting the job done. But Al Golden loses by 11 and acts like we were a field goal away and blames the wind. Imagine us going the entire game without Bush & Carter. Throw in Owens, Grace, Chad, Heurt, Corn, Kirby, and Kamalu and that is what Patterson is winning with. Cincy would have laid 80 points on us.
 
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There was a time when he had an interview scheduled with UM for the vacant HC job.
But our administration in all its wisdom decided to hire Randy Shannon before the interview.
What could have been if they had waited.
 
LuCane said:
The idea is to find the next Patterson.
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Lu, I agree, but to find the next Patterson, we need to stabilize and rebuild the program before we take another chance.

The reason I'm pulling for hiring Butch, is that he can recover the program, stock it three deep, and probably have us in the National Championship game in three years. Butch can put us back in the top like Schnellenberger did.

THEN, in five or six years, when Butch is ready to retire - we have options. Lots of options. We have an NFL stocked team, three deep, we have a new revival and new pride, we have a new energy - and THEN we can find the next Jimmy Johnson.

But we cannot afford another gamble - and loss. We've gambled and lost three times in a row.

No one knows UM football better than Butch. He knows exactly what he can do here, he knows the culture, he knows the recruiting barrel, and he knows how to stock the team with coordinators, position coaches, and best of all - athletes.

He's the only "sure thing" that anyone can point to. And he's a program builder. Proven program builder.

Right now, we need "PROVEN."
 
UMFarArcher said:
LuCane said:
The idea is to find the next Patterson.
Click to expand...

Lu, I agree, but to find the next Patterson, we need to stabilize and rebuild the program before we take another chance.

The reason I'm pulling for hiring Butch, is that he can recover the program, stock it three deep, and probably have us in the National Championship game in three years. Butch can put us back in the top like Schnellenberger did.

THEN, in five or six years, when Butch is ready to retire - we have options. Lots of options. We have an NFL stocked team, three deep, we have a new revival and new pride, we have a new energy - and THEN we can find the next Jimmy Johnson.

But we cannot afford another gamble - and loss. We've gambled and lost three times in a row.

No one knows UM football better than Butch. He knows exactly what he can do here, he knows the culture, he knows the recruiting barrel, and he knows how to stock the team with coordinators, position coaches, and best of all - athletes.

He's the only "sure thing" that anyone can point to. And he's a program builder. Proven program builder.

Right now, we need "PROVEN."
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I respectfully disagree - not about Butch necessarily, but about needing to stabilize the program and then go for the "next" Patterson. I think we're at a legitimate crossroads as a program. This is the opportunity to decide what kind of program we want to become for the next decade. We have a new university President, are at a program low in the modern era, and have tried various alternatives: the "internal" candidate preferred by the players, the coordinator candidate, the "South Florida" guy, the "outsider CEO," etc.

To return to our roots (and that means the "cutting edge" brand that made this program great), we need to build this from the ground up in terms of mentality and culture. Maybe that's Butch, if he's up for that and has a plan. Maybe that's someone else. I don't know enough to comment. What I do know is that we have a tremendous opportunity here and it should not be lost by being reactionary.
 
Torocane said:
There was a time when he had an interview scheduled with UM for the vacant HC job.
But our administration in all its wisdom decided to hire Randy Shannon before the interview.
What could have been if they had waited.
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B/C randy "had Miami ties" and was "a good recruiter"........

One day, I pray, we learn what actually matters when hiring a coach.
 
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LuCane said:
UMFarArcher said:
LuCane said:
The idea is to find the next Patterson.
Click to expand...

Lu, I agree, but to find the next Patterson, we need to stabilize and rebuild the program before we take another chance.

The reason I'm pulling for hiring Butch, is that he can recover the program, stock it three deep, and probably have us in the National Championship game in three years. Butch can put us back in the top like Schnellenberger did.

THEN, in five or six years, when Butch is ready to retire - we have options. Lots of options. We have an NFL stocked team, three deep, we have a new revival and new pride, we have a new energy - and THEN we can find the next Jimmy Johnson.

But we cannot afford another gamble - and loss. We've gambled and lost three times in a row.

No one knows UM football better than Butch. He knows exactly what he can do here, he knows the culture, he knows the recruiting barrel, and he knows how to stock the team with coordinators, position coaches, and best of all - athletes.

He's the only "sure thing" that anyone can point to. And he's a program builder. Proven program builder.

Right now, we need "PROVEN."
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I respectfully disagree - not about Butch necessarily, but about needing to stabilize the program and then go for the "next" Patterson. I think we're at a legitimate crossroads as a program. This is the opportunity to decide what kind of program we want to become for the next decade. We have a new university President, are at a program low in the modern era, and have tried various alternatives: the "internal" candidate preferred by the players, the coordinator candidate, the "South Florida" guy, the "outsider CEO," etc.

To return to our roots (and that means the "cutting edge" brand that made this program great), we need to build this from the ground up in terms of mentality and culture. Maybe that's Butch, if he's up for that and has a plan. Maybe that's someone else. I don't know enough to comment. What I do know is that we have a tremendous opportunity here and it should not be lost by being reactionary.
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We're on the same page.

We agree that we don't need a player-determined internal candidate, no more coordinator candidates, no more South Florida guys, and sure as **** no more outsider CEO's from Jersey.

This program has just about bled out.

I just think of all the alternate candidates brought up lately, the safest, most logical choice is Butch.

Butch has been all over the country with ESPN, and he spends time with teams around the nation, with coaches around the nation, and probably knows some top coordinators and position coaches better than active coaches who are very busy stomping out team fires.

There's a lot of advantage to getting around the nation, watching different teams at practice and play, talking to coaches, and seeing what everyone out there is doing.

We do have a tremendous opportunity. And we better not **** it up.
 
LuCane said:
The idea is to find the next Patterson.
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correct, but do you think a not-even-glorified ticket salesman is the person that is going to find him.

as you said, we have to get to the root cause, the situs of which resides within the BOT. until the BOT modifies its attitude towards the program, we are screwed. the first sign that they are moving in the correct direction is to fire blake james and hire a seasoned AD with CEO type experience, vision, b@lls, passion. that person might be able to find us the next Patterson or the next X.

the campaign against Golden needs to shift strategy and aim for the BOT. if you are going to embarass anyone, embarrass them, they wont take that too lightly and are not in a position to be embarrassed.

the pressure needs to be re-directed to them.
 
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