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Bring him (Mark Stoops) to me!

Genghis Cane said:
He does more with less, which is a strange concept for us because we’ve had the exact opposite for 2 decades.

His job is the equivalent of Rutgers in the B1G, where every team he plays has a talent advantage.

For once in his career, give him a roster more talented than his opponents and let’s see what happens.
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Just adding some evaluation here....We can't ignore the fact that recruiting is part of his job. Having worse talent than most of the teams he plays is his fault. Is he a subpar recruiter?
 
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BS85 said:
Do they not get along?
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Nah. That's not it at all. Stoops is a very likeable dude. It's just stoops wouldn't want anyone else having power over him that doesn't come in under his reign other than an ad. On top of that it's another salary that isn't necessary. Lonzo is 100% necessary in this capacity with this regime because we currently don't have anyone capable to oversee the bad news bears of college football. But with a competent college football staff doesn't need oversight like that so long as theirs an ad in place who knows his job atleast to some extent.
 
Go Canes!! said:
$25-$30 million just for his contract, $5-$8 million minimum for Manny’s buyout, buyouts for current assistants, plus new contracts for new assistants.

$40 million may be low.
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That first part must be whats owed to him if he let go buy the University of Kentucky or something, no way does a school pay that for him alone.

You're Mr. 15-0, so I know that info you posted is wrong
 
TheEye said:
Stoops would kill to play against the Coastal instead of the SEC East. Why are people looking at his record when his SOS is lightyears ahead of ours!?
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Exactly. Sure the sec is normally hyped for the business of college football but people really don't seem to comprehend how bad the coastal has become. At this point vandy would skull**** us and they're bottom feeders. That basic Kentucky team would push our **** in like the vatos in training day... Y'all need to start understanding what you see on the field and how it compares to other situations throughout college.
 
arizonacane said:
Mike Stoops was the Arizona HC, not Mark. Kentucky has always been a mid-level SEC team. Not since Bear Bryant and Jerry Claiborne have they been a good team. Stoops is building something at Kentucky!
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Your absolutely right. Thank you for correcting me. I get confused between the three of them once in a blue.
 
Mr. Dynasty1 said:
That first part must be whats owed to him if he let go buy the University of Kentucky or something, no way does a school pay that for him alone.

You're Mr. 15-0, so I know that info you posted is wrong
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The first part is what it’s going to cost for his contract. Didn’t even factor in a buyout. He’s got a sweetheart deal at Kentucky:


1. “Have you ever seen Mark’s contract? Mark has the best ******* deal in the country.”

An SEC assistant told me this when I asked about Stoops petering out on FSU, a job most of us would assume to be on par with Oklahoma, the program that made his brother Bob famous — and a national champion.

Now, Stoops’ contract is very nice (his base salary increases annually; currently he’s due $4.6 million in 2020) but the assistant was specifically referring to this: Every time Kentucky wins seven games in the regular season, Stoops’ contract is automatically extended by one year.
 
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I’m sorry but he doesn’t move the needle. Done with defensive minded head coaches. Give me lane kiffin
 
Astcloud11 said:
Record does matter. I dont care what a coach does or how he runs his practice as long as he wins and graduates kids. Just like fans only complain about the turnover chain when the defense looks like ****
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That's cause fans are fans... Since when should cheerleaders dictate how a program is ran?
 
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EmilioEstevez said:
I don't understand why we're crowning this guy. He's 54-50 for his career. Has only surpassed 8 wins once in his career. And sure he beat UF, but his QB only threw for 87 yards in that game.

How is this coach going to take us out of mediocrity when he has lived in mediocrity his entire career? If he was as good as people are touting him to be, he would've been poached by another SEC school already.


Year Team Overall Conference Standing Bowl/playoffs Coaches# AP°
Kentucky Wildcats (Southeastern Conference) (2013–present)
2013 Kentucky 2–10 0–8 7th (Eastern)
2014 Kentucky 5–7 2–6 6th (Eastern)
2015 Kentucky 5–7 2–6 T–4th (Eastern)
2016 Kentucky 7–6 4–4 T–2nd (Eastern) L TaxSlayer
2017 Kentucky 7–6 4–4 T–3rd (Eastern) L Music City
2018 Kentucky 10–3 5–3 T–2nd (Eastern) W Citrus 11 12
2019 Kentucky 8–5 3–5 T–4th (Eastern) W Belk
2020 Kentucky 5–6 4–6 4th (Eastern) W Gator
2021 Kentucky 5–0 3–0 (Eastern)
Kentucky: 54–50 27–42
Total: 54–50
#Rankings from final Coaches Poll.
°Rankings from final AP Poll.
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Kentucky is a tough place to have a successful football program. They don't really have a solid recruiting base, and truthfully, they will always be second to their bb program. Plus, worst of all, they compete in the SEC. I think Stoops would be the most qualified hire we've had in decades and I think he could be a great programs here, with less hurdles than he's had at UK. Problem is, he needs a quality OC.
 
HurikaneMarc said:
All coaches who lose and get fired display lots of ineptitude. That's why they lose.

Question is are you ready to say that Manny's career is toast right now after his first 3 years ever as a head coach.
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As a head coach? Yes. Absolutely.

For reference, see “Shannon, Randy.”
 
Go Canes!! said:
$25-$30 million just for his contract, $5-$8 million minimum for Manny’s buyout, buyouts for current assistants, plus new contracts for new assistants.

$40 million may be low.
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Just read his contract. Stoops buyout is $1 million.

If they fire him he gets less than $3 million.

EDIT: Sorry that wasn't the most recent amendment. Still less than $2 million if he terminates his contract.
 
JayCane20 said:
Just read his contract. Stoops buyout is $1 million.

If they fire him he gets less than $3 million.
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He’s a couple of wins away from being automatically extended another year at close to $5 million.

That’s not a contract anyone in their right mind is leaving to come here.
 
Go Canes!! said:
He’s a couple of wins away from being automatically extended another year at close to $5 million.

That’s not a contract anyone in their right mind is leaving to come here.
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Probably true. Updated above - if we buy him out it would be less than $2 million. He signed a new amendment that increased it a little bit. But his salary is now $4.8m and in a couple years he'll be at $5.6m

With the expectation of going 6-6 or 7-5 every year. Doubt he leaves. Don't think we should pay that much for him either.
 
Go Canes!! said:
He’s a couple of wins away from being automatically extended another year at close to $5 million.

That’s not a contract anyone in their right mind is leaving to come here.
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We don’t need a coach who’s in his right mind. We need a coach who knows how to win.
 
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Astcloud11 said:
Just adding some evaluation here....We can't ignore the fact that recruiting is part of his job. Having worse talent than most of the teams he plays is his fault. Is he a subpar recruiter?
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His recruiting classes range from 25-37 over the last 5 years or so. Handful of 4 stars in each class. In the years prior to his arrival the classes were lower, mostly in the 40s and I saw a 115 as well. Within the SEC though, the classes are in the bottom 1/3. All at a basketball school in a non-talent rich state while competing against the big dogs.

Is he an ace recruiter? No but certainly not a liability especially if he hires a quality staff which I think he would do. He knows how to identify and develop though which is what we desperately need here. I don't think we would see a drop in recruiting compared to Manny. Right in the 12-15 range with potential to climb as we actually put a quality product on the field.

No coach is coming here that doesn't have faults or question marks surrounding them. I think Stoops is a low risk hire that checks a lot of the boxes we're looking for.
 
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