Bring him (Mark Stoops) to me!

[DTP]

It's funny when people say Miami is different because the expectations are different and Stoops wouldn't meet that expectation. What are the expectations at Miami exactly? On CIS, it's NC's, but for the BOT/AD it's clearly not.
If the BOT really expects 7 win seasons, why even make a coaching change? I’m sure Manny could have us a consistent 7-6 program.
So to try and hold Stoops to some standard that only exists in the minds of dudes on a message board is not reality.
We as fans should hold all potential coaching hires to a higher standard than 7-6. Obviously the standards shouldn’t be ridiculous but expecting our team to be in the 9-10 win range with regularity and being a regular contender for conference championships isn’t outrageous.

Think about this, if Stoops was the coach this year, we would win the ACC, we would be in the playoffs and depending on the match up, possibly playing in the NC game. Dude is more than capable of winning at Miami.

It’s possible but it’s also pure hyperbole. You can literally make this same comment about any halfway decent coach in America.

 

[MainLineCane]

Fair enough. It doesn't you cost you anything to be wrong and I won't get a prize for being right.

SO SO TRUE.

 

[supacane]

I don't understand why we're crowning this guy. He's 54-50 for his career. Has only surpassed 8 wins once in his career. And sure he beat UF, but his QB only threw for 87 yards in that game.

How is this coach going to take us out of mediocrity when he has lived in mediocrity his entire career? If he was as good as people are touting him to be, he would've been poached by another SEC school already.


Year Team Overall Conference Standing Bowl/playoffs Coaches# AP°
Kentucky Wildcats (Southeastern Conference) (2013–present)
2013 Kentucky 2–10 0–8 7th (Eastern)
2014 Kentucky 5–7 2–6 6th (Eastern)
2015 Kentucky 5–7 2–6 T–4th (Eastern)
2016 Kentucky 7–6 4–4 T–2nd (Eastern) L TaxSlayer
2017 Kentucky 7–6 4–4 T–3rd (Eastern) L Music City
2018 Kentucky 10–3 5–3 T–2nd (Eastern) W Citrus 11 12
2019 Kentucky 8–5 3–5 T–4th (Eastern) W Belk
2020 Kentucky 5–6 4–6 4th (Eastern) W Gator
2021 Kentucky 5–0 3–0 (Eastern)
Kentucky: 54–50 27–42
Total: 54–50
#Rankings from final Coaches Poll.
°Rankings from final AP Poll.

He is gonna get us better by using better athletes against weaket competition. Look at their rosters during those years. Its Kentucky, context matter. He is a experienced HC, coached here and coached FSU defense to the national title. Soon as he left FSU went into a tail spin. Also the breeding softness i spoke about that **** be out the window on Diaz's head.

 

[88]

Regardless of last week

Mullen winning % at MSU .600
Stoops at Kentucky .510

You can split hairs and say MSU is slightly better than Kentucky... but they also play in a way easier division.

There's enough data there to prove we'd be making a hire we know for sure isn't as good as Mullen. Not an exciting hire imo.

Look at the larger data, don't get caught up in one game, or a hot run.

If we're so pathetic at this point where thats the best we can do then what can you do?

 

[supacane]

You've got to ask yourself ONE question

SERIOUSLY....Other than him possibly being a complete idiot....Why TF would he, in his right mind, leave UK to come here??

He taken Kentucky as far as he can take them. He thinks he can not look like total *** with the 13th best roster in the nation when he is undefeated with the 31st. He wanna face UF and Bama with closer gap in talent than being severly overmatched at Kentucky. Maybe.....

 

[moshated305]

On the fence here. Upgrade for sure but can he lock down SoFla? What about the offense? Team will be tough, physical and always prepared (they've won 3 straight bowl games). But I don't think he's a championship caliber coach which is obviously what we are looking for.

 

[supacane]

Regardless of last week

Mullen winning % at MSU .600
Stoops at Kentucky .510

You can split hairs and say MSU is slightly better than Kentucky... but they also play in a way easier division.

There's enough data there to prove we'd be making a hire we know for sure isn't as good as Mullen. Not an exciting hire imo.

Look at the larger data, don't get caught up in one game, or a hot run.

If we're so pathetic at this point where thats the best we can do then what can you do?

Stoops demeanor is what i want, not Mullen's aloof attitude.

 

[arizonacane]

C'mon bruh. He's been a head coach at Arizona in a time when pac 10 was on point & coaching at Kentucky in the sec... Even being competitive is impressive. On top of everything else what people fail to realize is what we need out of a coach has zero to do with his record & EVERYTHING to do with his approach. His philosophies & accountability. He literally just showed y'all everything y'all should want out of any coach...

Mike Stoops was the Arizona HC, not Mark. Kentucky has always been a mid-level SEC team. Not since Bear Bryant and Jerry Claiborne have they been a good team. Stoops is building something at Kentucky!

 

[Go Canes!!]

Most here have mentioned that Stoops would need to change his offensive philosophy if he were to become head coach here

You want to take a $40 million gamble on a coach you’re asking to change before he even steps foot on campus?

 

[supacane]

On the fence here. Upgrade for sure but can he locked down SoFla? What about the offense? Team will be tough, physical and always prepared (they've won 3 straight bowl games). But I don't think he's a championship caliber coach which is obviously what we are looking for.

We don't need to worry about championships. We need stability and a culture change. Like a 180 from whats been for 15 years. When he left FSU.....they quickly went down hill..

 

[Bird4um]

You've got to ask yourself ONE question

SERIOUSLY....Other than him possibly being a complete idiot....Why TF would he, in his right mind, leave UK to come here??

He is tired of the SEC and he has a shot at winning the weak ACC if he knows he is a good coach.

 

[88]

Stoops demeanor is what i want, not Mullen's aloof attitude.

What you're going to get are the results. The data's right there with a good sample size

 

[Mr. Dynasty1]

You want to take a $40 million gamble on a coach you’re asking to change before he even steps foot on campus?

If he’s not interested in changing that offense then you pass on him. These are the the questions an AD should be asking while meeting with a coach. If a coach isn’t willing to be flexible in philosophy then we don’t need that coach. The greatest CFB opened his mind on offensive philosophy, no other coach can be above doing the same.!

Not sure how you got to $40 million though

 

[clg003]

Not change who you are but update the offensive philosophy. Don't understand why that is so far fetched to inquire about while meeting with a coach? Especially if you feel it would benefit your current roster and entice more offensive recruits. Also, Stoops may not be married to the scheme just runs its because it fits the players he's been able to get there?

Um.... so this is your hiring strategy... cool...

 

[BeachCanes]

He wouldn't even leave Kentucky for Miami. You all have to temper expectations and realize last time we had a coaching search we were on names like Randy Edsall and Al Golden.

 

[TOcane]

Coastal Carolina is in the top 25. So is Wake forest. A while back Boise st was a frequent visitor to the top 10. Saban could rehab Kentucky. May not make them champions but he'd have them competing at a very high level. None have pedigrees or killed it in recruiting.

That is not a “power”. Boise was a SOS outlier like UCF. Wake Forest is getting there now and who knows how long that will be. Coastal Carolina is not going to stay there either. Saban before he won a championship is not turning Kentucky into a top 5 team. Their resources are not on a LSU level and what they get goes to basketball. I’m not defending Stoops, I’m indifferent to him. I do agree with your points on how quickly we make coaching changes.

 

[supacane]

What you're going to get are the results. The data's right there with a good sample size

Yeah with the different players and caliber athletes you get the same results? I seen what he did with Miami Dbs and FSU defense with elite athletes. Sorry not buying that ****. This is not some inexperienced dude who coached at Temple..

 

[TOcane]

He is tired of the SEC and he has a shot at winning the weak ACC if he knows he is a good coach.

This. If we played disciplined football and win games we are supposed to we can build and have the easiest path to the CFP in its current state.

 

[Go Canes!!]

If he’s not interested in changing that offense then you pass on him. These are the the questions an AD should be asking while meeting with a coach. If a coach isn’t willing to be flexible in philosophy then we don’t need that coach. The greatest CFB opened his mind on offensive philosophy, no other coach can be above doing the same.!

Not sure how you got to $40 million though

$25-$30 million just for his contract, $5-$8 million minimum for Manny’s buyout, buyouts for current assistants, plus new contracts for new assistants.

$40 million may be low.

 

[Mr. Dynasty1]

Um.... so this is your hiring strategy... cool...

Not sure if you are slightly delayed which is possible so I’ll use small words:

In interview, if coach no want to change one thing holding him back, don’t hire coach. Don’t wait until hired to tell him to change