Brethren: Some discussion on the offense?

[canedoit]

It's a shameless bump, but the other nights game was a coordinators wet dream. 9 in the box, single safety high...if you want to call ten yrds off the LOS, lined up over the gaurd at that depth high coverage? The route concepts are shlt and holy christmas, we saw Duke on a wheel route, down field.

Some one want to take a stab and identify WTF Coley's vision is? True FR or not, the passing game is just as weak in GM1 as it was in the spring game. The idea of running off tackle and pulling the weak side guard when facing nine man fronts isn't winning. I mean, at least go Pistol and give the RB a lead...Go play action off that and run the FB across the formation. Quit running curls outside the hash and for the love of god, give the QB an underneath cross to help his QB's on rollouts.

You've got to think that whoever is responsible for scout team, isn't properly preparing the 1s and 2s for what they're seeing on gameday. It may also be time for Coley to stop waving a gardening Rake in the air during QB drills.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guIqEU4tS5o

 

[NinoCane]

It's a shameless bump, but the other nights game was a coordinators wet dream. 9 in the box, single safety high...if you want to call ten yrds off the LOS, lined up over the gaurd at that depth high coverage? The route concepts are shlt and holy christmas, we saw Duke on a wheel route, down field.

Some one want to take a stab and identify WTF Coley's vision is? True FR or not, the passing game is just as weak in GM1 as it was in the spring game. The idea of running off tackle and pulling the weak side guard when facing nine man fronts isn't winning. I mean, at least go Pistol and give the RB a lead...Go play action off that and run the FB across the formation. Quite running curls outside the hash and for the love of god, give the QB an underneath cross to help his QB's on rollouts.

You've got to think that whoever is responsible for scout team, isn't properly preparing the 1s and 2s for what they're seeing on gameday. It may also be time for Coley to stop waving a gardening Rake in the air during QB drills.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guIqEU4tS5o

it was hands down the worst play calling i've ever seen in my life.

when we ran play action they bit every time. they were super aggresive and were putting 9 in the box at all times. what did we do? run right into it. 6 straight times. three and outs.

if we are too scared to let kaaya throw, why put him out there?

 

[canedoit]

It's OK to run in to 9 man fronts, to keep things honest and help develop a play action threat, particularly when you've got a kick *** RB. But running zone stretches and off tackle runs with no lead is sure to produce a negative yardage play more often than not.

There's zero threat of a read option play with Kayaa, so...give the RB a freakin lead blocker and work the FB into the flat on play action once or twice. Coley gave a clinic this summer and if anyone wants to check it out, it's on youtube.

 

[LuCane]

Solid thread and one of the reasons I don't really care about results in certain games. Someone posted "we scored 77 points!" Another posted that results were ok.

None of it matters unless it carries over into the games we need to win. The Coley issue is real. No idea what he'll grow into, but right now, he's running the least cohesive offense I've ever seen at UM. It is all over the place in terms of sets, personnel groupings, identity and asking players to do things outside of their strengths.

 

[canedoit]

Solid thread and one of the reasons I don't really care about results in certain games. Someone posted "we scored 77 points!" Another posted that results were ok.

None of it matters unless it carries over into the games we need to win. The Coley issue is real. No idea what he'll grow into, but right now, he's running the least cohesive offense I've ever seen at UM. It is all over the place in terms of sets, personnel groupings, identity and asking players to do things outside of their strengths.

We are of one mind in this dept. I never thought I would see an offense worse than Patrick Nix...but at least you could see what he was doing. His bubble screens alone are superior to anything Coley is doing. And Whipple? His offense obliterates this current situation.

 

[terdferguson]

It's really sad and frustrating because of the weapons we have at the skill positions. What a waste.

 

[AUcane]

It's OK to run in to 9 man fronts, to keep things honest and help develop a play action threat, particularly when you've got a kick *** RB. But running zone stretches and off tackle runs with no lead is sure to produce a negative yardage play more often than not.

There's zero threat of a read option play with Kayaa, so...give the RB a freakin lead blocker and work the FB into the flat on play action once or twice. Coley gave a clinic this summer and if anyone wants to check it out, it's on youtube.

Yes.

Slow developing stretch, counters (using slow pulling guards) against 8-9 man fronts and even run blitzes over and over again is so frustrating to watch.

 

[canedoit]

It's OK to run in to 9 man fronts, to keep things honest and help develop a play action threat, particularly when you've got a kick *** RB. But running zone stretches and off tackle runs with no lead is sure to produce a negative yardage play more often than not.

There's zero threat of a read option play with Kayaa, so...give the RB a freakin lead blocker and work the FB into the flat on play action once or twice. Coley gave a clinic this summer and if anyone wants to check it out, it's on youtube.

Yes.

Slow developing stretch, counters (using slow pulling guards) against 8-9 man fronts and even run blitzes over and over again is so frustrating to watch.

I feel ya, Brutha. It's pathetic and beyond frustrating. If by the grace of the football gods, this dude knew wtf he was doing, we would have seen a couple FB dive plays and inside runs to, if anything, draw attention to the middle of the formation. I wouldn't even complain about going power I W/2 TE and pound the **** rock.

There's no evidence to believe Coley knows how to coordinate a power running scheme. Perhaps it's the hike the ball to duke and run a reverse to dorsett inside the ten.

 

[DaU83]

It's OK to run in to 9 man fronts, to keep things honest and help develop a play action threat, particularly when you've got a kick *** RB. But running zone stretches and off tackle runs with no lead is sure to produce a negative yardage play more often than not.

There's zero threat of a read option play with Kayaa, so...give the RB a freakin lead blocker and work the FB into the flat on play action once or twice. Coley gave a clinic this summer and if anyone wants to check it out, it's on youtube.

I agree it's OK, but you can't just keep doing it and hoping for the best. Do it to set up PA, fine, do it unsuccessfully a ton, not fine.

 

[canedoit]

It's OK to run in to 9 man fronts, to keep things honest and help develop a play action threat, particularly when you've got a kick *** RB. But running zone stretches and off tackle runs with no lead is sure to produce a negative yardage play more often than not.

There's zero threat of a read option play with Kayaa, so...give the RB a freakin lead blocker and work the FB into the flat on play action once or twice. Coley gave a clinic this summer and if anyone wants to check it out, it's on youtube.

I agree it's OK, but you can't just keep doing it and hoping for the best. Do it to set up PA, fine, do it unsuccessfully a ton, not fine.

Thing is, there really wasn't much of that at all. It was all off tackle, guards pulling, zone stretches, sweeps and a hb toss left/right. A couple runs appeared as designed middle, but it was really DE's and a blitzing outside backer forcing it inside.

QB sneaks with the linemen falling forward would have been better inside run calls than what we witnessed. Thank the gods for Duke, if not for his skill and effort, the rushing stats for the game would have been ultra ugly.

 

[OBLIVION]

Coley has no business being any type of coach on the college level. Yeah he can recruit with the best of them, but that ship will sail too. When his offenses keep looking like cow dung every week.

All them big time WR for 2016 will start looking elsewhere quickly.

Dude had the perfect defense last week to just torch and he did the opposite.

 

[rex karz]

Coley has no business being any type of coach on the college level. Yeah he can recruit with the best of them, but that ship will sail too. When his offenses keep looking like cow dung every week.

All them big time WR for 2016 will start looking elsewhere quickly.

Dude had the perfect defense last week to just torch and he did the opposite.

Extremely frustrating not seeing this wide receiver corps on the field together carving up the secondaries.

 

[canedoit]

Coley has no business being any type of coach on the college level. Yeah he can recruit with the best of them, but that ship will sail too. When his offenses keep looking like cow dung every week.

All them big time WR for 2016 will start looking elsewhere quickly.

Dude had the perfect defense last week to just torch and he did the opposite.

Absofreakinlutly....1 v 1 on the outside and not a single attempt. Three step drop, bang...Use the sideline to protect the QB and get some PI calls. Get that safety deeper and cheating to the single side.