Breeding Softness.

[felix]

I picked out 6 teams, going into week 6 of the college football season.

Iowa, 42nd composite ranking, 3rd in the AP poll,

Cinci 53rd, 5th,

BYU 93rd, 10th.

Mich St, 36th, 11th

Ok St 46th, 12th

Kentucky, 31st, 14th.

Miami, 12, unranked, losing record.

Our players are soft. Diaz personality has been smeared onto them, they go on social media and complain about fans and them getting criticized. They complain about fans not showing up. Yet they don't talk about the pain fans sit through watching UNC beat us to sleep at home giving up 800 yards. They speak nothing of getting tougher, of not being blown out at home. They feel sorry for themselves. They post pictures of other schools stadiums, or people saying how loud it was at UGA

When we played ND in 2017, their players said thats the loudest place they have every played in, they are players who played in the big house and at Penn State. Give the fans something to show up for. No you don't have to win titles, toughness, fight, punch someone in the mouth to swing momentum. Our RBs inability to break tackles is emblematic of our lack of toughness.

Aint nobody gonna guilt trip me into going to watch a bad product that makes my weekends miserable. We have nothing to be proud of as canes fan. We are a national embarrassment. Every game i take the hour trip to go to, and i always of to take off work, i feel miserable for days. And for the people who think telling people who stop going that they have no right to complain, that's hurting Miami more than the fans. Cuz you rather anger over apathy and thats what comes next.

Manny Diaz has had 3 offseason to change the mentality of our players. They claim its recruiting, no u can change the mentality, u dont need recruits to do that. We don't have a talent problem, we have a softness problem. And its coming from the HC. The teams i wrote above have no business being where they are even if i don't expect them to maintain it all season, getting there with their talent is an achievement. Thats through coaching, training and conditioning. Fans cant teach you how to block and tackle. You can't be a 5th year SR still taking bad angles and busting coverages, as well as diving into stiff arms instead of driving your feet. No fan can teach you that. No fan can teach you how to pass off a DL stunt so you wont get the QB killed.

If you wanna say fans can affect recruits coming, fine, have it. I would say the on field play is more critical. But ok, keep that. The players on the field though. They are soft af.

The team I saw on Thursday night vs. Virginia was not soft and never gave up. I always like analysis done by people that neve played the game and spent time in a locker room. Certainly, deficiencies in coaching exist, but this team isn't soft, doesn't quit on each other or their coach. The same can't be said for the fans.

 

[puertorricane]

Toughness and softness is overrated. You win you are tough you lose you are soft?
It's not that simple. Doubt the players from any of the teams listed have come from tougher conditions than our players.
They have a better record, are coached better but that doesn't mean they are tougher.

 

[Gables Canes]

We are literally the exact OPPOSITE of what Miami football once was and should be.

 

[rok]

There's no team. It's a collection of individuals performing football-related activities as a reflex. These individuals are not striving to improve or achieve goals. Each year they cycle kids in and out who attend classes, lift weights together, kick rocks around the practice field together, and get their asses kicked a half dozen times a year on television. But there is no team. There's an idea that is the Hurricanes football team but it was lost somewhere around 2005. The program's on cruise control and there's no impedence in sight. This will go on forever.

 

[[]_[] swag]

Yup, Tucker looks like a boss, you can see Him comin', and He's from the Saban tree.

Reminds me of Mario. I don't care if he loses to a team he's not supposed to once a year. We need the culture he'll bring.

 

[supacane]

The team I saw on Thursday night vs. Virginia was not soft and never gave up. I always like analysis done by people that neve played the game and spent time in a locker room. Certainly, deficiencies in coaching exist, but this team isn't soft, doesn't quit on each other or their coach. The same can't be said for the fans.

I don't care who played or not played. Your toughness is shown against people you play against not middle aged overweight fans who you can pick up and smash. They spend their time whining on social media about fans and blah blah instead of learning how to take a proper angle to tackle and learning what the opposition is doing. Getting ran over and being the worse tackling team in the nation as well as cant run the ball with any consistency is the definition of soft. Im not putting one game in a microscope. This is Diaz entire tenure from losing to La Tech and FIU, road graded by UNC to being in a dog fight with App St and smashed by Mich St......soft.

 

[RVACane]

Soft coach picks soft recruits and u breed soft. Two elite level guys a class ain't enough to make other players good

 

[Rellyrell]

Imma go back to something I said in another thread:

I asked of u all, how is it that 247 have misevaluated all of our players, but hit the nail on the head w/ the all of the other recruits from other programs?

I don’t blame our kids, I blame this f’d up culture that they’ve been exposed to. Some scoffed at me when I said I can almost guarantee that Shaq would’ve been a 1st - 2nd round prospect had he went to Bama. What some don’t understand or maybe have forgotten, what made us so great was not just our players, but it was the culture the players were exposed to. Our practices were dang near game day, which is y I take the limited info provided during the off season regarding our current practices w/ a grain of salt.

The culture from the top all the way to the bottom is f’d. We have the talent, especially the younger kids. I hate seeing Elijah, Chantz, LT, Kinchens, Williams, X being stuck in “rotation.” I want these kids to have better.

 

[Canes Legacy]

We have a soft program which bleeds its way down. The players haven't quit. Are they undisciplined? Yes. Do they have good fundamentals? No. Do they "know how to win"? No. Is it their fault? No!

Players like James Williams and Leonard Taylor will go down the same path as all of the other talented young guys we've had over the years that never seem to get better. I don't want to get into a coach debate but imagine what JW and LT will look like under MC, or Stoops, or any other competent coaching staff out there.

 

[supacane]

Btw let me kinda go deeper on what i mean when i say soft. Cuz someone said something about people who aint played. We know football players can smash any random civilian with one punch and knock them senseless. Toughness starts in the mind. Its starts in the dog days of summer of gathering your teammates and running and running, outside of organized practice with the coaches. So you can be properly conditioned to deal with playing down here. Its the weight room. Its studying the playbook until you know not only your assignments but everyone elses. And sometimes the playbook needs to go. UNC keeps running the same plays over and over, you say F the play, you either shoot past your blocker or slam him on his head and decapitate the RB....figuratively. Those things all start with mentality.


How many plays Ed Reed made, had nothing to do with the called play. Thats a smart player making a play and diagnosing whats coming. You can only get that from studying so much football where its like a religion. Tweeting takes but seconds but the mental space you give it, to think it, to respond is far better served running some extra reps and studying the playbook and your next opponent.

 

[Pentagon Cane]

Yup, Tucker looks like a boss, you can see Him comin', and He's from the Saban tree.

Another guy with a pedigree. GA and coached for Saban; coached for Jim Tressel; coached for Jack Del Rio at Jacksonville; DC for Lovie Smith at Chicago; back to Saban; DC for Smart.

 

[Silver King]

The team I saw on Thursday night vs. Virginia was not soft and never gave up. I always like analysis done by people that neve played the game and spent time in a lock ler room. Certainly, deficiencies in coaching exist, but this team isn't soft, doesn't quit on each other or their coach. The same can't be said for the fans.

Really? I spent 10 years in locker rooms, as starter in all but the first one. I played for a coach for two years in high school who took over a soft team that went 1-9 before he got there. In fact, the town thought our undefeated Junior High team would beat them. That 1-9 team had guys miss practice, take weeks off for minor injuries, play soft. It also had what became the leading rusher in Florida in the new coach's 2nd year and another eventually named one of the FHSAA's Top 100 High School Football Players in the First 100 years; Burton Lawless - All American at Florida; Only Rookie starter in Super Bowl X and made two other SBs with the Cowboys. We were 5-4-1 my soph season then went to the State Semi-Final game the year those two graduated and the Coach left for college.

That team immediately took on the persona of that coach, a Coral Gables native who went on to be a two-time NCAA Coach of the Year at Rice and Duke and interviewed for the Miami job after Coker. The Canes made a big mistake not hiring him because he would have brought the thunder. He used to have a saying "Out here on this practice field, your soul is bare naked." Start practice with an "Eye Opener" drill: Face to face war for 30 seconds at a time with each person in your position group - only rules, couldn't kick or swing your helmet. Only one guy missed practice in his time as coach - they tied two fight back dummies to him and made him run against the first D telling them, whoever doesn't hit him, takes his place. We dug a 6x6x6-foot deep pit to have more intimacy in eye openers. Ran stadiums for penalties, stuff like that. I got to college with 64 other freshman - after a week of running and Oklahoma's, the team was down to 50 total (NAIA) - anther tough coach who just won.

Now, I didn't say the Canes gave up, but you'll have to give me a word to describe this team after those 800 yards they gave up to the team we face this week; the FAU loss; or this year while their manhood is being tested on the field, guys are taking pictures, laughing and playing grab-*** on the sideline. I'm a dinosaur, but I can't imagine your definition of soft. It makes me question if you ever actually played the game or just trolling. The teams I played on through college would never have even considered being that unfocused during a game - would never had occurred to us; not in our realm of thought as we knew and respected the game.

 

[CaneSince4Ever]

The team I saw on Thursday night vs. Virginia was not soft and never gave up. I always like analysis done by people that neve played the game and spent time in a locker room. Certainly, deficiencies in coaching exist, but this team isn't soft, doesn't quit on each other or their coach. The same can't be said for the fans.

We're soft AF.

Soon as the other team hits us in the mouth we fold up like a cheap umbrella.

**** even FIU said we were soft a few years ago, and guess what...we're still soft!!!

 

[Empirical Cane]

Perhaps a soft-serve or Kona ice machine next to the Turnover Chain suitcase? Seems fitting under the Diaz regime.

Perhaps wall-to-wall counseling sessions?

 

[Empirical Cane]

This thread has quickly devolved into, "Canes are so soft as [insert weak beta cuddly analogy here]


I love the crazee choo-choo...

ALL ABOARD!

 

[supacane]

This thread has quickly devolved into, "Canes are so soft as [insert weak beta cuddly analogy here]


I love the crazee choo-choo...

ALL ABOARD!

Whatever people use to define soft. We are it homie. We resist nothing the opponent throws at us. Things snow ball and turn into routs. We have some momentum and sure enough, one of our players will commit a penalty, drop a pass or miss an assignment to stop it. Then they cry about criticism. Making cryptic tweets and slogans such as don't be a fan later. Which Redwine first tested. Years later, we are still waiting for the later to be a fan.

 

[HurricaneHauk]

Been saying this since the MSU loss. The toughness of a team is solely based on the toughness of the coaching staff – if you don't tackle but twice a week, how the **** are you gonna tackle on Saturdays?

MSU is a tough team, they'll run on anybody. Wonder why? Because Mel Tucker is a bad MFer

The guy sucks

NW who just lost to Braska by 49
Some FCS team
Some ****** ACC team from Miami
Western Kentucky

Let’s see how great they are in a few weeks

 

[JMG]

Been saying this since the MSU loss. The toughness of a team is solely based on the toughness of the coaching staff – if you don't tackle but twice a week, how the **** are you gonna tackle on Saturdays?

MSU is a tough team, they'll run on anybody. Wonder why? Because Mel Tucker is a bad MFer

Mel Tucker used to sleep under his desk when he was a grad assistant. The guys tough because he became completely obsessed with becoming a champion of his profession.

We need someone who is willing to go THAT far.

 

[LoungeLord]

I picked out 6 teams, going into week 6 of the college football season.

Iowa, 42nd composite ranking, 3rd in the AP poll,

Cinci 53rd, 5th,

BYU 93rd, 10th.

Mich St, 36th, 11th

Ok St 46th, 12th

Kentucky, 31st, 14th.

Miami, 12, unranked, losing record.

Our players are soft. Diaz personality has been smeared onto them, they go on social media and complain about fans and them getting criticized. They complain about fans not showing up. Yet they don't talk about the pain fans sit through watching UNC beat us to sleep at home giving up 800 yards. They speak nothing of getting tougher, of not being blown out at home. They feel sorry for themselves. They post pictures of other schools stadiums, or people saying how loud it was at UGA

When we played ND in 2017, their players said thats the loudest place they have every played in, they are players who played in the big house and at Penn State. Give the fans something to show up for. No you don't have to win titles, toughness, fight, punch someone in the mouth to swing momentum. Our RBs inability to break tackles is emblematic of our lack of toughness.

Aint nobody gonna guilt trip me into going to watch a bad product that makes my weekends miserable. We have nothing to be proud of as canes fan. We are a national embarrassment. Every game i take the hour trip to go to, and i always of to take off work, i feel miserable for days. And for the people who think telling people who stop going that they have no right to complain, that's hurting Miami more than the fans. Cuz you rather anger over apathy and thats what comes next.

Manny Diaz has had 3 offseason to change the mentality of our players. They claim its recruiting, no u can change the mentality, u dont need recruits to do that. We don't have a talent problem, we have a softness problem. And its coming from the HC. The teams i wrote above have no business being where they are even if i don't expect them to maintain it all season, getting there with their talent is an achievement. Thats through coaching, training and conditioning. Fans cant teach you how to block and tackle. You can't be a 5th year SR still taking bad angles and busting coverages, as well as diving into stiff arms instead of driving your feet. No fan can teach you that. No fan can teach you how to pass off a DL stunt so you wont get the QB killed.

If you wanna say fans can affect recruits coming, fine, have it. I would say the on field play is more critical. But ok, keep that. The players on the field though. They are soft af.

 

[CholoCane]

The guy sucks

NW who just lost to Braska by 49
Some FCS team
Some ****** ACC team from Miami
Western Kentucky

Let’s see how great they are in a few weeks

Never said he was a great coach. I said the team is tough because he is tough and that’s obvious in the change of production in their running game. You run the ball effectively, you control the game. I know CFB has changed a lot in the last 15 years but you still need to be able to run the ball and they’re honestly pretty great at it.