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BREAKING - Jeff Tedford expected to step down at Fresno State

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After he lost Kalen DeBoer Fresno St fell back down to earth.

Fresno went from 10-4/12-2 with DeBoer as OC to 4-8 once they changed the offense around with Ryan Grubb's gum *** who was at Eastern Michigan before Fresno.

DeBoer goes to Indiana as OC & in year 1 look what happens to them, 8-4 with a 13th ranked passing offense & will play in a good Bowl game.

Fresno St does have a good young upcoming LB coach in Kenwick Thompson, had Justin Rice as one of top LB's in the country, which is crazy because he was a low rated RB coming out of High School.
 
Liberty City El said:
After he lost Kalen DeBoer Fresno St fell back down to earth.

Fresno went from 10-4/12-2 with DeBoer as OC to 4-8 once they changed the offense around with Ryan Grubb's gum *** who was at Eastern Michigan before Fresno.

DeBoer goes to Indiana as OC & in year 1 look what happens to them, 8-4 with a 13th ranked passing offense & will play in a good Bowl game.

Fresno St does have a good young upcoming LB coach in Kenwick Thompson, had Justin Rice as one of top LB's in the country, which is crazy because he was a low rated RB coming out of High School.
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In all fairness they lost more seniors than like 120 or 125 out of 130 schools coming into the season.
 
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skeeter said:
You guys won't like him because he isn't air raid, but I would take Jeff Tedford any day of the week for OC
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I don't think anybody wants to exclusively run Air Raid, I just think most of us want to see a more Modern Spread style.

There's different types of Air Raid though, people think they're all the same offense but it's not, the Oklahoma Air Raid isn't anywhere close to what Leach runs at Wash St.

Lincoln Riley & Josh Heupel took the passing concepts of the AR from Leach & combined it with the Spread/Power Run rush attack & got the best of both worlds. That's what the Leach fans seems to never get, Leach's biggest weakness aside from his lack of effort in recruiting & fielding a Defense, is he simply refuses to run the ball, whereas his disciples realized you can't survive without having a great running game.

As far as Tedford, he runs a Pro Style with Spread/RPO heavy concepts. He'd basically be what we saw with Richt's offense in the 2nd half of the 2016 season. We wouldn't be under center as much as we are now, but it's basically the same thing.

It worked at Cal in the 00's-10's era with the West Coast style offense & probably would've here back during that same time, don't think it would fit Miami in 2020 though.
 
Liberty City El said:
As far as Tedford, he runs a Pro Style with Spread/RPO heavy concepts. He'd basically be what we saw with Richt's offense in the 2nd half of the 2016 season. We wouldn't be under center as much as we are now, but it's basically the same thing.
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Any idea why Richt went away from that?

We were practically unstoppable in the Bowl game vs West Virginia.
 
Liberty City El said:
I don't think anybody wants to exclusively run Air Raid, I just think most of us want to see a more Modern Spread style.

There's different types of Air Raid though, people think they're all the same offense but it's not, the Oklahoma Air Raid isn't anywhere close to what Leach runs at Wash St.

Lincoln Riley & Josh Heupel took the passing concepts of the AR from Leach & combined it with the Spread/Power Run rush attack & got the best of both worlds. That's what the Leach fans seems to never get, Leach's biggest weakness aside from his lack of effort in recruiting & fielding a Defense, is he simply refuses to run the ball, whereas his disciples realized you can't survive without having a great running game.

As far as Tedford, he runs a Pro Style with Spread/RPO heavy concepts. He'd basically be what we saw with Richt's offense in the 2nd half of the 2016 season. We wouldn't be under center as much as we are now, but it's basically the same thing.

It worked at Cal in the 00's-10's era with the West Coast style offense & probably would've here back during that same time, don't think it would fit Miami in 2020 though.
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Yup I understand all that...But don't kid yourself...We have MANY, MANY posters on here that want to chuck it 60 times a games and don't give a **** if we sacrifice every bit of physicality on this team, as long as we light up defenses without a pulse in a way that's sexier than handing it off.

And I just explained Leach in much the same manner on another message board as you did lol good stuff...I can't have a 70/30 split with 85 ypg. Every time Leach runs a successful 15 yard draw, his fans say "see he runs the ball too"...Nah.

I acknowledge the success of the spread but here is all i care about on offense

1. I WANT BALANCE, there is nothing more important than an offense. And I mean both ball control(success rate) and most importantly explosiveness in both running and passing. We have Don Chaney, Knighton, and hopefully Franklin coming, we need to be explosive in the RUN GAME just as much as pass.
2. I know we don't have the o-line to run the power I that I love so much, and prob never will...So I'm cool with not being Wisconsin even though I respect that brand of football immensely. Spread works for me because our O-line will only have to improve 300% instead of 1000%
3. I still want to be physical and be able to line up under center and get tough yardage.

Those are my only 3 preferences for an offense. Spread is cool w me, but honestly I give a **** if it's spread or not.
 
nystateofmind said:
Any idea why Richt went away from that?

We were practically unstoppable in the Bowl game vs West Virginia.
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Because he didn't have a qb after kaaya (And kaaya had many faults too) that could hit the broad side of a barn his last 2 years...See perry and rosier. They'd miss you in a game of catch.
 
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Liberty City El said:
I don't think anybody wants to exclusively run Air Raid, I just think most of us want to see a more Modern Spread style.

There's different types of Air Raid though, people think they're all the same offense but it's not, the Oklahoma Air Raid isn't anywhere close to what Leach runs at Wash St.

Lincoln Riley & Josh Heupel took the passing concepts of the AR from Leach & combined it with the Spread/Power Run rush attack & got the best of both worlds. That's what the Leach fans seems to never get, Leach's biggest weakness aside from his lack of effort in recruiting & fielding a Defense, is he simply refuses to run the ball, whereas his disciples realized you can't survive without having a great running game.

As far as Tedford, he runs a Pro Style with Spread/RPO heavy concepts. He'd basically be what we saw with Richt's offense in the 2nd half of the 2016 season. We wouldn't be under center as much as we are now, but it's basically the same thing.

It worked at Cal in the 00's-10's era with the West Coast style offense & probably would've here back during that same time, don't think it would fit Miami in 2020 though.
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That's a great summary and should be stickied atop all the Mike Leach threads. Those threads used to bother me circa 2006 because nobody seemed to be paying attention. Meanwhile it was right there in glaring evidence that he was throwing away games by refusing to run the football. Oklahoma 1999 with Leach was markedly inferior to Oklahoma 2000 once Leach was gone. Leach gave away a near-certain victory at Notre Dame in 1999 by refusing to run the football, enabling Notre Dame to steadily seize control of the trenches. Similar in the Texas game the following week and later at Colorado and Texas Tech plus the bowl game vs. Mississippi. I remember all of them because there had never been an Oklahoma team so fearful of running the football. One year later under Mangino at offensive coordinator the rushing attempts went way up, to acceptable level.

Then once in full control at Texas Tech, Leach was smack at the bottom of rushing attempts year after year, normally by wide margin.

By the second time around more Canes fans seemed to have some clarity that Leach was a paper mache fraud, although the ignorance persists and is a fantastic litmus test.

BTW, your Fresno State summary was good also but I thought you should have mentioned Marcus McMaryion. He was a clever little dual threat quarterback who transferred to Fresno State from Oregon State and really boosted the team, especially last season as a senior. Not a big arm but accurate enough and very good instincts on when to use his legs. Fresno State's quarterback play went way down this season after McMaryion graduated.
 
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