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Brandon Walker vs UF fan on the Canes

OrangeBowlMagic said:
The caller is a nole fan
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That Nole fan needs to worry about his Nole team, not about the Canes.......Mario will surprise......... and the score will take care of business and payback for years.............he should be worried....the Canes are coming....
 
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The Gators have 1 more win than Miami over the last five years and 3 more wins than Miami over the last ten years. With as bad as everyone says Miami has been let that sink in.

I don't think people realize how much Miami has been held back by coaching and the difference a good coach will make. Look at Richt. The guy was a good coach by the time we got him (not great) and we were headed to the college football playoff with a win against Clemson in the ACCCG.
 
supacane said:
Name the losses, obviously Clemson and Texas A&M.

I think we go 10-2. I think we split those 2 games and lose to another team, maybe one of the Virginia's. I don't see us losing more than 3 games, range 9-11. So 10. 8-4 is possible only if we have massive struggle on the OL. I don't see that happening with who our coaches are and not against the ACC schedule we have. Also think we win all our home games.
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Would you have correctly predicted our losses any of the last 19 seasons? Why would I be able to predict that? Every year we lose to teams we shouldn’t. I get the optimism this season and I’m feeling some of it. But my point is that I don’t think we will dominate teams this year, and when you don’t dominate, you eventually lose to teams you shouldn’t. Not because they’re better, but because the ball doesn’t always bounce your way. Sometimes your team fumbles more than usual. Sometimes plays get busted. It’s why they actually play the games.

Who do we lose to? Could be anybody. Maybe it’s only Clem and ATM, but with our WR and RB situation uncertain, I think 10 wins is too much to expect now. Could happen, but it’s unlikely.

9-3, lose to the expected teams and 1 more. 8-4 more likely than 10-2.
 
jmccomber5 said:
the caller had decent concerns about us except the DL. He lost the credibility when he said FSU beats us at HRS. Hatred clouding judgment. We will beat FSU by 3 TDs this year
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More. 3 TDs before we get some of the younger guys some PT. We then continue to beat them in every phase of the game. By the way, who is the freshman DT the caller mentioned? I don’t know if we win the ACCCG but I expect us (if we can stay healthy) to be there. The question is against whom. Guess we will see in a few months time.
 
Genghis Cane said:
In all fairness, the UF fan is right about our WR room, but he’s wayyyy off on his analysis of our DL.

Walker is spot on about TVD, our schedule, and how the RB injuries aren’t that big of a concern.
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Guys dropping balls in practice in August isn't over-concerning. Two warm-up games before Texas A&M and one before getting into the ACC schedule.

Kid talks out of both sides of his mouth. Miami can win at Texas A&M (an SEC team he hates, that Florida also has to play)—but will lose to Florida State because half the stadium will be FSU fans (the case every year for four decades; not half Noles, but they have a big presence.)

A reminder that Miami lives rent-free in Florida's fans head. They want to tear down Mario but build up Napier—who the jury is out on—and all the "bad game day coach" stuff is so played out.

Dude went 32-12 over four seasons at Oregon, won two Pac-12 titles, won a Rose Bowl, etc. Yeah, he choked away games against Stanford and Arizona State in recent years, got boat-raced by a better Utah team (twice) last year—the ASU game costing him a shot at the 2019 Playoffs—but the "bad gameday coach" thing is played out.

Has a monster staff and is back home at Miami with a budget. Mario will be fine.

Good shot at 10-2—9-3 probably more realistic based on Mario's penchant to give a game away, as well as the Canes' choking (could see losing at UVA as Charlottesville is oft a tough out.)

Agree that a loss at aTm is likely, as is losing to Clemson in Death Valley—but Canes could take that rematch for an ACC title for sure. (Beating Clemson at home could also help pave way for North Carolina State in title game.)
 
kryptonite said:
Would you have correctly predicted our losses any of the last 19 seasons? Why would I be able to predict that? Every year we lose to teams we shouldn’t. I get the optimism this season and I’m feeling some of it. But my point is that I don’t think we will dominate teams this year, and when you don’t dominate, you eventually lose to teams you shouldn’t. Not because they’re better, but because the ball doesn’t always bounce your way. Sometimes your team fumbles more than usual. Sometimes plays get busted. It’s why they actually play the games.

Who do we lose to? Could be anybody. Maybe it’s only Clem and ATM, but with our WR and RB situation uncertain, I think 10 wins is too much to expect now. Could happen, but it’s unlikely.

9-3, lose to the expected teams and 1 more. 8-4 more likely than 10-2.
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That's why it's called a prediction. It's preseason talk, just like new networks and talking heads do. Don't really see why you taking offense.

And no I don't think we will dominate. I think we are strong in the positions that most important to winning games in CFB. All of them are important, but if you have really good QB and really good DL, it's usually those teams who win.

On one hand people will say we don't have top 10 or playoff talent which is facts. Then you point to our schedule as well as other teams who had worse talent who won double digit games, it's new reasoning then it circle back to, well just because 20 years.

Mark Richt came in and won 8 games is first year, 9 after the bowl. 10 games is not insurmountable in the coastal division. We were just such a bad program that's anything good is unfathomable. This roster is not 07 level with Randy Shannon either.

More top 100 players than ND, Mich, Oregon, OU and Penn St. This is the group of teams where our talent is. Our coaches or lack of has put us battling with UVA and teams like that for years. I expect instant defensive turn around with Steele, a strong running attack and leadership from the QB. 10 wins
 
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Genghis Cane said:
In all fairness, the UF fan is right about our WR room, but he’s wayyyy off on his analysis of our DL.

Walker is spot on about TVD, our schedule, and how the RB injuries aren’t that big of a concern.
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Disagree we have a better group of WRs than every team on our schedule
 
supacane said:
That's why it's called a prediction. It's preseason talk, just like new networks and talking heads do. Don't really see why you taking offense.

And no I don't think we will dominate. I think we are strong in the positions that most important to winning games in CFB. All of them are important, but if you have really good QB and really good DL, it's usually those teams who win.

On one hand people will say we don't have top 10 or playoff talent which is facts. Then you point to our schedule as well as other teams who had worse talent who won double digit games, it's new reasoning then it circle back to, well just because 20 years.

Mark Richt came in and won 8 games is first year, 9 after the bowl. 10 games is not insurmountable in the coastal division. We were just such a bad program that's anything good is unfathomable. This roster is not 07 level with Randy Shannon either.

More top 100 players than ND, Mich, Oregon, OU and Penn St. This is the group of teams where our talent is. Our coaches or lack of has put us battling with UVA and teams like that for years. I expect instant defensive turn around with Steele, a strong running attack and leadership from the QB. 10 wins
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I’m not taking offense at all, just disagreeing.

We’re strong at QB, which admittedly, is the most important position on the field. But even the best QBs need help from their WR, and there are some very real questions there.

RB is also a question. We’ve got one proven guy most of us can’t believe made it through the season alive last year. I for one wouldn’t bet on it happening again. Which leaves us depending on two guys we don’t know much about. Not saying they can’t do the job, but it’s far from certain at this point.

Richt won 10 games in year two, but that took a metric ton of luck and it was year two. Again, maybe Mario can do it, but that seems like a once in a lifetime kind of year. If we’re going to win 10 this year, this team better be more sound on offense than that team was, because we’re unlikely to get those TO numbers. On the plus side, our QB situation is clearly 499 miles better than 2017, so who knows.

Everybody’s saying we have better coaching, and that’s the big difference. The question is, will it be countered by guys running around trying to remember how the play works. I think fans overlook that installing a new system can take time. They’re screaming about how a guy on the bench is better, but they forget he doesn’t know how the plays work. Fans think it doesn’t matter, but that’s where your coaching shows up. Doesn’t matter if you drew up a great play, if the guys aren’t where they’re supposed to be it’s not going to work. So we may see some of our talent sitting on the bench instead of making an impact. Or not. As you say, it’s a prediction, and mine is that we have more problems to fix going into the season than most think. Add to that any injuries that come up, and I think it’s a tougher road to 10 wins than CiS wants to admit.

7-5 7% chance (Everybody’s injured)
8-4 33% chance
9-3 40% chance
10-2 18% chance
11+ 2% chance (Mario rightly elected President of Miami)
 
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Genghis Cane said:
In all fairness, the UF fan is right about our WR room, but he’s wayyyy off on his analysis of our DL.

Walker is spot on about TVD, our schedule, and how the RB injuries aren’t that big of a concern.
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Uh, nah… the rb injuries are a huge concern. We lost 2 during the season last year. If that happens this year, then we not fuccin’.
 
Genghis Cane said:
In all fairness, the UF fan is right about our WR room, but he’s wayyyy off on his analysis of our DL.

Walker is spot on about TVD, our schedule, and how the RB injuries aren’t that big of a concern.
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No he's not. You guys here about these drops but you're not realizing it's two people... The same 2 people over and over. If they can't work that out they just won't be playing. Simple like that. Only place I disagree is at running back. As long as the line is GREATLY improved than yup they can be a dime a dozen so long as they all are solid. But the difference between solid and gamechangers is huge as he says. A game hanging running back allows us to be a dominant squad. A solid one leads to short yardage conversions
Where a dominant one allows us to open up the field.
 
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