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For those that continue to say Bard cant win the big one "like Dorsey" - please stop

Yes - Brad has feet of stone and holds on to the ball waaaaaay too long

However you cant compare the two - you just cant
- Dorsey 2001 team had 19 starters drafted and 1 UFA (Romberg) played 8 years in the league and one guy (Campbell) died or it easily would been 21/22 that played on Sunday
- the Second string on 2001 included - Willis M, Vernon Carey, Vince W, Sean Taylor (and this is an incomplete list)
- Third string - A Rolle, McIntosh, Gore, Parish & Winslow

Hate to tell you - give Brad 1 guy from the 1st string, 2nd string and 3rd string and they are are in the top 5 right now

Besides, you cant hold his Frosh and Soph year against high bc of Golden
- And if you want to argue that fact, the 2002 team was just as strong as 2001 lost bc of Clappy

If you need to rip the guy to bring joy into your life - fine. But stop the comparisons - they are foolish
 
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You can evaluate a QB without his surrounding talent having any baring on your decision. Dorsey showed plenty of leadership qualities. Kaaya does not. Dorsey made quick decisions and would plant the back foot and launch. Kaaya does not. Dorsey would move in the pocket. Kaaya does not. Dorsey would scramble if he absolutely had to. Kaaya does not. Dorsey didn't fold under pressure. Kaaya does. Dorsey didn't wince 3 seconds before contact. Kaaya does.


Kaaya is a really good QB when you are down multiple scores. He can get you back within a possession, but that's about it.
 
Easier to have confidence and take shots when you have playmakers all around you and you won't get sacked very often.
 
prinmemo said:
Easier to have confidence and take shots when you have playmakers all around you and you won't get sacked very often.
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Every time Brad threw the ball up Richards or Coley made a play. His lone pick was an absolute awful decision. 6 of the 8 sacks last night happened because he refused to throw the ball.

When they rush 6 and have 1 on 1 everywhere, let your WR have a chance to make a play, don't sit there for 6 seconds.
 
Coley, Richards, Njoku, Herndon, And Yearby are going to be playing on Sundays. If we had Dorsey, wed be undefeated right now.
 
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I love Dorsey but our delusional fans need to stop. He is just another overrated qb on a loaded team. Bama has had one for every title recently. The greatest around them hides a lot of their flaws. And all you hindsight warriors talking about leadership and other intangibles need to stop. Very different being on a successful team with a completely different culture that wasn't corrupted by Golden. Dorsey would get killed on our current team. He was just as immobile, had a weaker arm, and was a string bean. Would of been cut in half behind this offensive line and would not be able to make any of the deep throws richt has asked kaaya to make.
 
ncncanes said:
For those that continue to say Bard cant win the big one "like Dorsey" - please stop

Yes - Brad has feet of stone and holds on to the ball waaaaaay too long

However you cant compare the two - you just cant
- Dorsey 2001 team had 19 starters drafted and 1 UFA (Romberg) played 8 years in the league and one guy (Campbell) died or it easily would been 21/22 that played on Sunday
- the Second string on 2001 included - Willis M, Vernon Carey, Vince W, Sean Taylor (and this is an incomplete list)
- Third string - A Rolle, McIntosh, Gore, Parish & Winslow

Hate to tell you - give Brad 1 guy from the 1st string, 2nd string and 3rd string and they are are in the top 5 right now

Besides, you cant hold his Frosh and Soph year against high bc of Golden
- And if you want to argue that fact, the 2002 team was just as strong as 2001 lost bc of Clappy

If you need to rip the guy to bring joy into your life - fine. But stop the comparisons - they are foolish
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I agree you cant compare but Kaaya aint no Dorsey.

Remember Dorsey's LT never gave up one single sack until he made it to the NFL. Ours cant even spell the word "sack" before he gives up one.
 
Look at the throws. Look at the leadership, Dorsey was a leader among future hall of famers! This guy can't lead fat kids to candy. He usually hit guys in stride, down the seam, down the sidelines. I'm telling you right now Dorsey is the better quarterback and at this po But it's not close
 
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ncncanes said:
For those that continue to say Bard cant win the big one "like Dorsey" - please stop

Yes - Brad has feet of stone and holds on to the ball waaaaaay too long

However you cant compare the two - you just cant
- Dorsey 2001 team had 19 starters drafted and 1 UFA (Romberg) played 8 years in the league and one guy (Campbell) died or it easily would been 21/22 that played on Sunday
- the Second string on 2001 included - Willis M, Vernon Carey, Vince W, Sean Taylor (and this is an incomplete list)
- Third string - A Rolle, McIntosh, Gore, Parish & Winslow

Hate to tell you - give Brad 1 guy from the 1st string, 2nd string and 3rd string and they are are in the top 5 right now

Besides, you cant hold his Frosh and Soph year against high bc of Golden
- And if you want to argue that fact, the 2002 team was just as strong as 2001 lost bc of Clappy

If you need to rip the guy to bring joy into your life - fine. But stop the comparisons - they are foolish
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Ahmmon Richards and Stacy Coley are very talented receiver who have both made great plays this year. He doesn't have Duke Johnson in the back field but they aren't useless. So many excuses won't defend someone who obviously plays good at times, and bad at other times.

IF you're saying the talent disparity is too great, please describe the terrible performance against FAU...Walton had 4 TD's that game and it didn't help Kaaya complete any passes. He needs to get some balls and take over, play calling needs to stop being vanilla....OLine needs to suck less.
 
He aint Dorsey, obviously.

That doesn't change anything about him not being good.

He can not win against a team with a pulse.
 
LOL @ the Kaaya nuthuggers actin' like Dorsey didn't play in 99'.

LOL, the offense got on a roll when Dorsey took over...the offense was bipolar at best when Kelly was the QB.

****, if Kaaya was the QB in 00', He would've still been shook from the UW game...=s...dynasty delayed.
 
If you have to add hypothetical HOF players when evaluating your QB...you might need a new QB.
 
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I agree that Dorsey was a good not great QB who seemed great because of the talent surrounding him. The WRs, OL and RBs all made him seem better than he was.

But there's no evidence that Kaaya is a good QB. Dorsey is far from the all time standard for a QB but Kaaya does not meet the Dorsey standard.
 
ncncanes said:
For those that continue to say Bard cant win the big one "like Dorsey" - please stop

Yes - Brad has feet of stone and holds on to the ball waaaaaay too long

However you cant compare the two - you just cant
- Dorsey 2001 team had 19 starters drafted and 1 UFA (Romberg) played 8 years in the league and one guy (Campbell) died or it easily would been 21/22 that played on Sunday
- the Second string on 2001 included - Willis M, Vernon Carey, Vince W, Sean Taylor (and this is an incomplete list)
- Third string - A Rolle, McIntosh, Gore, Parish & Winslow

Hate to tell you - give Brad 1 guy from the 1st string, 2nd string and 3rd string and they are are in the top 5 right now

Besides, you cant hold his Frosh and Soph year against high bc of Golden
- And if you want to argue that fact, the 2002 team was just as strong as 2001 lost bc of Clappy

If you need to rip the guy to bring joy into your life - fine. But stop the comparisons - they are foolish
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Sometimes the QB makes the team around him better. Kaaya takes unnecessary hits b/c he holds on to the ball too long. Have you ever heard of throwing a wide receiver open, or throwing the ball to an area? If Brad says he looks up to Peyton and he tries to emulate his style, he's not studying hard enough. Peyton made players around him better, both in college and the NFL. He made WRs get open.
 
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When Ken Dorsey's back foot hit the top of his drop he was letting the ball go. Kaaya isn't throwing guys open this year he is waiting to see them open before he pulls the trigger. Ken Dorsey didn't do this, he made throws on time.
[MENTION=3871]FlipT[/MENTION] you're right on with that comment.
 
God if this ain't the saddest ******* fanbase out there. How do you guys survive on a day to day basis? If you underwear gets hitched up wrong, do you guys go into full meltdown? I could see some of these dudes just falling in the streets in rage over some dumb ****.
 
poncho0091 said:
God if this ain't the saddest ****ing fanbase out there. How do you guys survive on a day to day basis? If you underwear gets hitched up wrong, do you guys go into full meltdown? I could see some of these dudes just falling in the streets in rage over some dumb ****.
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This.

The entire O is in disarray and that is on the HC and O-staff. We have moving parts, but they're not moving together. Ever try eat an egg raw, butter from the stick, or flour from your hand? Nasty as sh*t. But if you mix em together and bake it in the oven with some other ingredients, you get a nice cake.

Right now Richt just needs to check his recipe and make a better cake. That's all.
 
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